Come on Wolves!

[Somethingfishy]

Looking at the table now...discounting the City game already...the Everton game is really last chance saloon. Fail to win that and there really can be no way back barring a remarkable turnaround in form.

[CrosspoolClarets]

The irony is, it was yet another Leeds defensive error that cost Wolves the game. We are getting no luck, the only vague luck affecting 3 points was Kane hitting the bar. Not so much the Norwich game, but last night and tonight Everton and Leeds were getting hammered.

It will be very, very hard to keep strong minds now, on and off the pitch.

[Spijed]

The problem never has been the number of goals we've scored. It's when we've conceded that's killed us this season.

You should always be capable of winning games 1-0, but far too many times this season we've let a lead slip. And even when we haven't scored we should have seen out the Brentford & Leicester games.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Agree, but Leicester did it with Pearson. They went gung ho for the last nine games and it paid off.
Dyche needs to go out with all guns blazing.

Completely different situation. A group of core players all considerably younger about to reach the peak of there careers.

Our squad is the oldest in the league with half of them out of contract in three months.

If we are being realistic it will be challenge to get to 30 points

[Billy Balfour]

And just to cap this season off - bastards will get promoted.

[Billy Balfour]

Oh, no. I now feel dirty after typing that post.

[ClaretMov]

Put another record on

Why, this record has been playing for the past 19 month's

[ClaretMov]

And just to cap this season off - bastards will get promoted.

No they won't

[JohnDearyMe]

Goodnight Vienna

[Rileybobs]

Garlick Out

[ClaretMov]

Completely different situation. A group of core players all considerably younger about to reach the peak of there careers.

Our squad is the oldest in the league with half of them out of contract in three months.

If we are being realistic it will be challenge to get to 30 points

Correct, we won't win more than 5 games all season

[Spijed]

Looking at the table now...discounting the City game already...the Everton game is really last chance saloon. Fail to win that and there really can be no way back barring a remarkable turnaround in form.

That's it. We need to beat Everton & Norwich to stand any chance really.

[jojomk1]

The irony is, it was yet another Leeds defensive error that cost Wolves the game. We are getting no luck, the only vague luck affecting 3 points was Kane hitting the bar. Not so much the Norwich game, but last night and tonight Everton and Leeds were getting hammered.

It will be very, very hard to keep strong minds now, on and off the pitch.

You make your own luck

Forget what other teams have done, or not done

Dyche has presided over an awful 15 month's of football where we have gone backwards at a rapid pace

Just by playing an old 4-4-2 with an old squad that he has been happy with

[s6t9a2f3f]

Teams at the bottom all tried to do everything they could even changing their manager - Norwich, Watford, Newcastle, Leeds and Everton - 2 of that list sacked their manager after a win !!!!!!! We have a awful record this season backed up by some awful performances. I am not a SD hater but amazed if his position is not looked at.

[Nonayforever]

If we are going down, lets not go down with a wimper or a told you so. Lets go down giving it a fight & try to give the fans something to hold on to over the summer.

[ClaretMov]

That's it. We need to beat Everton & Norwich to stand any chance really.

ffs give it up, we are down, we have been all season

[MACCA]

Take a bow Kevin Friend

Can't rely on other teams dropping points, but you should be able to rely on impartial referees being consistent.

We were down after Newcastle away IMO.
You can't churn out the amount of lack lustre no fight performances we have and survive.
We have zero fight, very little quality, can't score, and started to leak sloppy goals, it's a recipe for disaster.

[Rileybobs]

Teams at the bottom all tried to do everything they could even changing their manager - Norwich, Watford, Newcastle, Leeds and Everton - 2 of that list sacked their manager after a win !!!!!!! We have a awful record this season backed up by some awful performances. I am not a SD hater but amazed if his position is not looked at.

But two teams who changed their manager will still be relegated this season, at least.

[randomclaret2]

Penny for Mr Pace's thoughts tonight.

[Billy Balfour]

No they won't

I just feel like we can't catch a break. Anyway, you're right. It's just myself being ****** off after having all the optimism crushed out of me.

[Funkydrummer]

It's sad to say that, this season, we have been nowhere near the quality of either of these two sides.

At the risk of banging the same old drum, the lack of investment has come back to bite us in the bum
this season.

[RalphCoatesComb]

Fixed

[joey13]

If we are going down, lets not go down with a wimper or a told you so. Lets go down giving it a fight & try to give the fans something to hold on to over the summer.

Which player are you ?

[Nonayforever]

Penny for Mr Pace's thoughts tonight.

He's still laughing at Newcastle giving us £25m for Wood.

[Spijed]

It's sad to say that, this season, we have been nowhere near the quality of either of these two sides.

At the risk of banging the same old drum, the lack of investment has come back to bite us in the bum
this season.

Ultimately, no matter how much you spend in the Prem, every team bar a handful, WILL get relegated sooner rather than later.

[Goody1975]

Looking at the table now...discounting the City game already...the Everton game is really last chance saloon. Fail to win that and there really can be no way back barring a remarkable turnaround in form.

The problem is we have had a number of games against relegation rivals that were seen as 'must win' this season and we haven't won any of them. Many of these games saw us putting in pathetic toothless performances.

Norwich (h)
Newcastle (a)
Leeds (a)
Watford (h)
Brentford (a)

We can get out of this but going off our big game performances this season, we have shown no sign of turning it on when it's most needed.

[joey13]

Penny for Mr Pace's thoughts tonight.

Why the **** did we give Shawn a new contract

[morpheus2]

Well done Leeds, that's the spirit.

[bfcjg]

To win a lottery you have to buy a ticket, we errm and arr at the counter and hold onto our 2 pounds. In football terms we hang back, we defend from the front instead of attacking from midfield.
We are going down but sadly with a whimper blaming the post,crossbar, the ref,VAR, covid, time wasters,lack of money, injuries, bad weather, lack of atmosphere etc etc etc. In the cold light of day we are awful we really don't deserve to be anywhere near an elite league when all we do is in essence tw@t it forward and hope for a flick or header on whilst hanging back to defend.

[ClaretTony]

Why, this record has been playing for the past 19 month's

The record has nothing to do with Leeds scoring in stoppage time but another poster who just can't wait to have a go. Of course we wanted Wolves to win but there's nothing we can do about what's happened. It's as if some on this board just can't wait for us to go down so they can tell us that they told us so.

[Leisure]

Why the **** did we give Shawn a new contract

Shawn!

[Bin Ont Turf]

The problem never has been the number of goals we've scored. It's when we've conceded that's killed us this season.

You should always be capable of winning games 1-0, but far too many times this season we've let a lead slip. And even when we haven't scored we should have seen out the Brentford & Leicester games.

What a load of tripe.

We've let in less goals than Man Utd, and they sit in 5th. If we'd had scored as many as them then we wouldn't be where we are.

Who should be capable of winning games 1-0?

Not a Burnley team anyway. We got away with it for a surprising long amount of time winning 1-0. There are numerous examples of games over the years where those 1-0's could easily have been draws or losses.

We've been shite for a while now and of course with plenty of other factors included, we've been found out.

[Stayingup]

To be realistic its a really good win for Leeds. We haven't got the players to pull that off plus we're still bedding in new players.

[ElectroClaret]

What a load of tripe.

We've let in less goals than Man Utd, and they sit in 5th. If we'd had scored as many as them then we wouldn't be where we are.

Correct. It's our lack of goals that's killed us. Wasted easy chances.
Defence wise we've been pretty fair.

[randomclaret2]

Shawn!

A portmanteau of Sean and Yawn, which kind of sums our football up.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Correct. It's our lack of goals that's killed us. Wasted easy chances.
Defence wise we've been pretty fair.

Definitely lack of goals.

[jojomk1]

Looking forward to next year - whatever division we are in

JBG, Long, Lowton, Hennessey, Westwood, Norris still under contract

Most likely Jay, Cork, Pieters, Barnes and Lennon could be offered new deals

If so, that would make 13 of our 25 man squad over 30 next year (Pope and Wout also turn 30 next season)

Assuming Tarks, Mee, Vydra, Bardsley and Stephens, will be gone - and they would all be all at least over 30 next season anyway

That totals 16 of our current squad of 25+

And people wonder why we have struggled this season

Building for the future Sean ?

[CrosspoolClarets]

You make your own luck

Forget what other teams have done, or not done

Dyche has presided over an awful 15 month's of football where we have gone backwards at a rapid pace

Just by playing an old 4-4-2 with an old squad that he has been happy with

That’s true in a sense, I agree that life is about putting yourself in a situation where a coin toss and something great might happen, it’s definitely the case in football. I’ve long been in the camp of saying Dyche is way too risk averse.

However, luck plays a wider part too, and I maintain we have had little. That sending off tonight and then the two goals hitting the posts and ricocheting back to the attacker, defenders jumping under the ball, keepers flying out and missing the ball. That’s luck. As was Jay’s shot off the underside at Brentford.

We can’t rely on luck though. If we go down, I tend to think it is for good. So we really need to go for goals and make sure we get them. We have the players to score them if they get a bit of confidence.

[ClaretTony]

Correct. It's our lack of goals that's killed us. Wasted easy chances.
Defence wise we've been pretty fair.

And yet we'd scored less at this stage of the season in 2017/18 when we were on our way to Europe. The lack of goals didn't kill us then so why is it now?

[Tall Paul]

A long time ago tbh


Depending on other teams results at this stage of the season is obscene.

The current bottom three are gone.

That’s a cast iron, double hard fact.

Anyone who doubts it can put their money where their superfan mouths are. …..

OK, what odds are you offering?

[Spijed]

What a load of tripe.

We've let in less goals than Man Utd, and they sit in 5th. If we'd had scored as many as them then we wouldn't be where we are.

Who should be capable of winning games 1-0?

Not a Burnley team anyway. We got away with it for a surprising long amount of time winning 1-0. There are numerous examples of games over the years where those 1-0's could easily have been draws or losses.

We've been shite for a while now and of course with plenty of other factors included, we've been found out.

Are you suggesting that we've ridden our luck for so long with all those 1-0 results and clean sheets and that was nothing to do with being very well organised?

Remember when we beat Liverpool 2-0 with 18% of the ball, yet they barely had a chance on goal?

I think CT recently pointed out that we'd scored as many goals at this stage of the season as we had done when we finished 7th. The key for a well drilled Burnley side was always the ability to see a game out, something that's been sadly lacking this season.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Correct. It's our lack of goals that's killed us. Wasted easy chances.
Defence wise we've been pretty fair.

One of the problems has been that we don't get that many chances, never mind easy one's.

But definitely should haven had at least 2 goals against Brentford. Which at the time of those chances, would have no doubt won us the game.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Correct. It's our lack of goals that's killed us. Wasted easy chances.
Defence wise we've been pretty fair.

We have lost more points from winning positions than we ever have in the Premier League. That’s defence.

I take your point, we have conceded about 30 goals fewer than Leeds, but it isn’t how many we concede, its when we have conceded them, and against whom.

[jrgbfc]

You can't expect your keeper and back 4 to keep a clean sheet every week at this level, it's just not realistic. How many times have we all come off the Turf thinking "how the hell did we win that"?
As Sean likes to say, it's fine margins, so you can't really complain if they start to go against you.

[taio]

Are you suggesting that we've ridden our luck for so long with all those 1-0 results and clean sheets and that was nothing to do with being very well organised?

Remember when we beat Liverpool 2-0 with 18% of the ball, yet they barely had a chance on goal?

I think CT recently pointed out that we'd scored as many goals at this stage of the season as we had done when we finished 7th. The key for a well drilled Burnley side was always the ability to see a game out, something that's been sadly lacking this season.

Lack of goals has been a huge factor this season together with not converting many good chances that you know at the time will cost us dearly.

[ElectroClaret]

And yet we'd scored less at this stage of the season in 2017/18 when we were on our way to Europe. The lack of goals didn't kill us then so why is it now?

I don't know Tony, but we obviously haven't scored enough, or we wouldn't be where we are now.

[Andreshotboots]

Got to begrudgingly admire Leeds tonight. Yes the sending off changed things but fair play to them for scoring 3 second half goals and coming away with the win. It's not over, but I think they have Saints at home the day we play City. The massive disaster was Brentford as I think they were our only realistic hope of dragging somebody down into the fight..

[JohnMac]

Don't panic, we have Dale Stephens!

[Spijed]

You can't expect your keeper and back 4 to keep a clean sheet every week at this level, it's just not realistic. How many times have we all come off the Turf thinking "how the hell did we win that"?
As Sean likes to say, it's fine margins, so you can't really complain if they start to go against you.

Conceding late goals against Leeds, Leicester (twice) & Brentford would never have happened in previous seasons.

I actually thought we'd turned a corner after Arsenal away & then Spurs at home.

[Jamesy]

And just to cap this season off - bastards will get promoted.

Now that isn’t going to happen. They have started to implode. Tenth place finish for them, trust me. A local Derby beckons but I won’t be going to Ewood on some crummy old 1980’s double decker.