Players Body Language

[bumba]

Noticed before the game the players Body language seemed down, always like lets get this over with. Not a criticism of our players the fans seemed the same this is the reality of clubs buying things like City, I find them so boring they couldn't sustain this even after all this spending it's all bought.
I left after half an hour I was that bored and can't wait for the championship it's a proper league with proper football but then it's a league you want to win but a league you don't want to leave!
The premier league is simply financial as a fan I hate it.

[jedi_master]

It’s a tough one, r.e hating this league. I prefer the Championship because it’s fun and anyone can beat anyone. It’s mostly a level playing field (parachute payments apart obviously). I’d be excited by the Championship were it not for the financial question marks.

Loved our time in the Prem, beating the big boys, getting into Europe, seeing world class players at Turf Moor etc. the veneer has long since worn off for me now though. Games like this were once something that felt like a real ‘event’ but they are now just a fixture to tick through. I’m not there today, purely because I fly to the US in a few days and have to pass a lateral flow to get on the plane, so trying to be sensible. I have to say, I am delighted the game I’m missing for that is these cheat-mode enabled jokers. They’re everything that is wrong with football.

[Milltown1882]

People want out of the Prem then soon as we’re in the Prem you’ll want to win the league just to get back in the Prem. Senseless.

[superdimitri]

It all started when Blackburn bought the title. It's spoiled the football dream. I couldn't care less it there was a super league. Now you need that kind of money to just survive.
To compete you need billions.

[Milltown1882]

It all started when Blackburn bought the title. It's spoiled the football dream. I couldn't care less it there was a super league. Now you need that kind of money to just survive.
To compete you need billions.

Brentford are currently 3-1 up at Stamford Bridge….

[Milltown1882]

Brentford are currently 3-1 up at Stamford Bridge….

Make that 4-1

[superdimitri]

Brentford are currently 3-1 up at Stamford Bridge….

Yes, and how long will they remain the premier league?
Sheffield United also had a great one year and were relegated the next.

It's possible to have fluke seasons and results but realistically you can't compete in the long term if even the teams around you have players worth 2 or 3 times as much.

[Milltown1882]

Yes, and how long will they remain the premier league?
Sheffield United also had a great one year and were relegated the next.

It's possible to have fluke seasons and results but realistically you can't compete in the long term if even the teams around you have players worth 2 or 3 times as much.

Teams were progressing while we were calling Peter Crouch a good signing. It all falls back on to the manager and his shortsightedness with signings.

[ksrclaret]

The body language has been absolutely rubbish on far too many occasions this season. Newcastle away, Leeds away, Leicester at home, Brentford away to name just a few.

I've always had issues with the hoofball approach but I always admired the way Dyche was able to drill so much good character and mentality into his sides. Definitely no evidence of that this season...

[superdimitri]

Teams were progressing while we were calling Peter Crouch a good signing. It all falls back on to the manager and his shortsightedness with signings.

Certainly were but you have to think that now there are more teams we have to compete with week by week who are a lot richer than in the past.

Leeds, Wolves, Aston Villa and Brighton have all spent big bucks in recent seasons. Add Newcastle to that list and slowly you get less and less teams you can realistically finish above.

I have no doubt with better recruitment we could do better this year but eventually when the odds are stacking more and more against you they'll be a time when you drop.

[alboclaret]

Noticed before the game the players Body language seemed down, always like lets get this over with. Not a criticism of our players the fans seemed the same this is the reality of clubs buying things like City, I find them so boring they couldn't sustain this even after all this spending it's all bought.
I left after half an hour I was that bored and can't wait for the championship it's a proper league with proper football but then it's a league you want to win but a league you don't want to leave!
The premier league is simply financial as a fan I hate it.

I agree but tell that to Brentford fans tonight.

[DCWat]

Weghorst’s after the final whistle looked really poor. Hopefully I’m reading too much into it (I wouldn’t be expecting him to be looking happy) he looked like he’d rather be anywhere but here!

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Fight and passion we once had has gone from this group of players. A pretty pathetic performance this afternoon.

[Paddy1882]

Needs a different voice from somewhere. I get bored to death listening to Dyche twice a week in press conferences never mind hearing the same stuff off the same people every single day. Footballers although well paid and all that are still Humans and human nature is that hearing the same thing off the same people every day you will get bored. The greatest manager in my opinion of all time sir Alex Ferguson changed his Assistant manager and some coaches every 3-4 seasons for that very reason. Needs a new voice and the perfect time to do that was when Tony Loughlan left.

[DCWat]

Needs a different voice from somewhere. I get bored to death listening to Dyche twice a week in press conferences never mind hearing the same stuff off the same people every single day. Footballers although well paid and all that are still Humans and human nature is that hearing the same thing off the same people every day you will get bored. The greatest manager in my opinion of all time sir Alex Ferguson changed his Assistant manager and some coaches every 3-4 seasons for that very reason. Needs a new voice and the perfect time to do that was when Tony Loughlan left.

A new voice did come in when Loughlan left.

[Paddy1882]

A new voice did come in when Loughlan left.

What Steve Stone who worked with U23s so will have been in and around the group anyway? That’s gone well eh.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Needs a different voice from somewhere. I get bored to death listening to Dyche twice a week in press conferences never mind hearing the same stuff off the same people every single day. Footballers although well paid and all that are still Humans and human nature is that hearing the same thing off the same people every day you will get bored. The greatest manager in my opinion of all time sir Alex Ferguson changed his Assistant manager and some coaches every 3-4 seasons for that very reason. Needs a new voice and the perfect time to do that was when Tony Loughlan left.

Dyche has always said there would come a day when the players get bored of listening to the same voice. Evidently that is this season.

[Paddy1882]

Dyche has always said there would come a day when the players get bored of listening to the same voice. Evidently that is this season.

Iv got no idea it’s just my opinion but common sense says hearing the same things every day as a human you will get bored and it will have less of a effect. That’s not a dig at Dyche by the way he won’t take all the sessions in training or do all the analytical stuff, but after such a long time different voices and ideas are needed to keep players engaged.

[MACCA]

We're down, we can't create a chance never mind score 1, we play boring hoofball, the fans look dejected as we look on from the stands, I can't imagine what the players feel having the Jon of actually trying to make it look like a contest.

Many have been told they have no future here/unwanted, which will mean a major wage cut and change of team for many, yet in the mean time you want them to dig you out of the hole you're in... that doesn't work sadly.

[boatshed bill]

We're down, we can't create a chance never mind score 1, we play boring hoofball, the fans look dejected as we look on from the stands, I can't imagine what the players feel having the Jon of actually trying to make it look like a contest.

Many have been told they have no future here/unwanted, which will mean a major wage cut and change of team for many, yet in the mean time you want them to dig you out of the hole you're in... that doesn't work sadly.

You are right.
Truth is we shouldn't have allowed this situation with too many 30ish year-olds on long contracts.

[boatshed bill]

It’s a tough one, r.e hating this league. I prefer the Championship because it’s fun and anyone can beat anyone. It’s mostly a level playing field (parachute payments apart obviously). I’d be excited by the Championship were it not for the financial question marks.

The financial implications of the Championship?
It's the PL that has eventually put us in debt

[Stayingup]

Teams were progressing while we were calling Peter Crouch a good signing. It all falls back on to the manager and his shortsightedness with signings.

Just imagine had Abu Dhabi bought Burnley. Do you think Dyche woukd have signed Crouch?

[warksclaret]

Noticed before the game the players Body language seemed down, always like lets get this over with. Not a criticism of our players the fans seemed the same this is the reality of clubs buying things like City, I find them so boring they couldn't sustain this even after all this spending it's all bought.
I left after half an hour I was that bored and can't wait for the championship it's a proper league with proper football but then it's a league you want to win but a league you don't want to leave!
The premier league is simply financial as a fan I hate it.

I am a great believer in body language and take a lot out of watching the pre match warm ups and training. I went to see Leicester v Man City earlier in the season and watched Man City go through their routine. It was like a very well oiled machine with a real seriousness from the players and coaches. Believe me they did not disappoint once the refs whistle blew for kick off. Listening to Clarets Player today the commentators talked about Weghorst's body language-there was simply no one near him to pick up any of his flicks and of course he got subbed. There seems to be something very fundamentally wrong within the camp

[boatshed bill]

Just imagine had Abu Dhabi bought Burnley. Do you think Dyche woukd have signed Crouch?

part of the Vokes deal, apparently.

[tiger76]

The financial implications of the Championship?
It's the PL that has eventually put us in debt

Nope it's the leveraged buy out which has put us into debt, prior to that we've made a profit every season we've been in the PL I believe.

Now debt in itself isn't necessarily a bad thing if you have something tangible to show for it, but sadly we don't, and we couldn't have picked a worse season to suffer relegation and all the financial implications that will entail.

[Vegas Claret]

the whole thing needs a refresh. It make take a year, it might take 50

[boatshed bill]

Nope it's the leveraged buy out which has put us into debt, prior to that we've made a profit every season we've been in the PL I believe.

Now debt in itself isn't necessarily a bad thing if you have something tangible to show for it, but sadly we don't, and we couldn't have picked a worse season to suffer relegation and all the financial implications that will entail.

Well, you could put it that way.
The leveraged deal probably wouldn't have happened had we not been in the PL.

[jrgbfc]

Was a bad atmosphere all round today. Days like today are the reason relegation wouldn't really bother me.

[RalphCoatesComb]

No one, not even our most avid fan, expected anything other than a defeat today.

When teams are allowed to buy £1 billion worth of players, other teams have no chance to compete.

Just over 60 years ago, we went to Maine Road and won the First Division. That was a level playing field.

Today was a farce and was a matter of "Don't sustain any injuries for the run in"

Our Season starts (and maybe ends) on Wednesday !

[Stayingup]

We didn't show hardly any fight. I think a team with Marney and Barton in it would have given this fine city team more to think about. It is the lack of fight from a Dyche team that is most concerning.

[NickBFC]

Even Shearer picked up on this. Lack of fight and press. Let's see what Wednesday brings, but it really is last chance saloon IMO.

[jedi_master]

The financial implications of the Championship?
It's the PL that has eventually put us in debt

It’s our owners that have put in debt, this league had us incredibly profitable! My concern was the financial implications of relegation due to the choices our owners have made. If it wasn’t for that debt, I’d be quite excited at a likely promotion tilt next season.

[IanMcL]

The directors who together saved the club, in Championship financial difficulties (and Owen Coyle for that matter, with his team of heroes) handed control to a man who decided to leave the club in a very much worse state than the one he agreed to help.