Dale Stephens Incident

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:45 pm

Statement from Burnley FC

Burnley Football Club are aware of a police incident involving one of our players, Dale Stephens.

As a football club we uphold strong values and hold all our players and staff to the highest standards. As such, we are treating this incident with the utmost seriousness as legal proceedings are undertaken.

As a Club, we strongly disapprove of the actions that resulted in such an incident and therefore disciplinary procedures will also be carried out internally.

Burnley Football Club make no further comment.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:47 pm

https://twitter.com/burnleyofficial/sta ... fQ28dIvvWg

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:50 pm

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:47 pm
https://twitter.com/burnleyofficial/sta ... fQ28dIvvWg

Only contains what I've posted

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:50 pm

Does anyone know what it's about?

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:50 pm

Imitating a footballer

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:50 pm

Charged with two offences; impersonating a footballer and stealing a wage.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:51 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:50 pm
Charged with two offences; impersonating a footballer and stealing a wage.

Hardly remotely funny

ChrisG · Post by **ChrisG** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:52 pm

LET reporting drink driving conviction

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... ve-charge/

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:52 pm

It's a drink/drive charge - fined over £3,000

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:52 pm
It's a drink/drive charge - fined over £3,000

Oh dear,

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:54 pm

We can't half pick 'em, it seems.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:55 pm

Papabendi wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:53 pm
Oh dear,

When I posted this thread I thought there had been an incident at the ground last Saturday - not sure the club have ever made a similar statement when anything like this has happened. Did the club comment when Ashley Barnes was found guilty of a similar offence last year?

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:56 pm

Stupid Boy (as Captain Mainwaring would say)

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:56 pm

Did they put out a statement like that for Barnes?

They way this was worded it felt more “serious” than that

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:57 pm

****. **** player as well.
Sack him - literally nobody wants him here.
59mg as well, that’s a huge amount. I know people who have felt absolutely ****** and blown under. Drink driving is ridiculous though in any circumstances.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:57 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:55 pm
When I posted this thread I thought there had been an incident at the ground last Saturday - not sure the club have ever made a similar statement when anything like this has happened. Did the club comment when Ashley Barnes was found guilty of a similar offence last year?

Exactly what I was thinking Tony

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:57 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:55 pm
When I posted this thread I thought there had been an incident at the ground last Saturday - not sure the club have ever made a similar statement when anything like this has happened. Did the club comment when Ashley Barnes was found guilty of a similar offence last year?

Yes, pretty much word for word the same.

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/f ... y-20812281

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:57 pm

There are few things I deplore more than drink drivers. I don't care if you're Dale Stephens or Ashley Barnes, it's inexcusable and one of the most selfish, irresponsible things you can possibly do.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:01 pm

Legal limit 35mg - Stephens at 59mg

Back in 1992

Legal limit 35mg - Jimmy Mullen at 146mg, and the club supported him in the courts rather than condemn him.

I will never condone drink/driving in anyway shape or form.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:02 pm

How do they calculate the fine? I’ve seen many of these cases where the driver was at least twice, sometimes three times over the limit and they’ve not received a fine of that amount, perhaps it’s earnings related. Stephens like Barnes earns enough money to either get a taxi or a driver. I have no sympathy for either of them.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:03 pm

Shouldn't be treated any differently to Barnes. If he wasn't sacked (which he should have been), then I don't see how Stephens can be.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:03 pm

I think he should be sacked but (with no legal training or knowledge) I guess we'd be on dodgy grounds to do so given we didn't with Barnes who had a bigger punishment from the courts for the same thing. And probably not worth any potential hassle given he's obviously off in the summer anyway.

Horrible, horrible behaviour though.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:06 pm

beddie wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:02 pm
How do they calculate the fine? I’ve seen many of these cases where the driver was at least twice, sometimes three times over the limit and they’ve not received a fine of that amount, perhaps it’s earnings related. Stephens like Barnes earns enough money to either get a taxi or a driver. I have no sympathy for either of them.

Don't know but Barnes was fined almost £14,000.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:14 pm

Another stop for Westwood's taxi.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:19 pm

He blew 59 so that puts it in the very lowest category of the sentencing guidelines. Just. He could have got between 12-16 months.

It looks like has pleaded guilty at the first opportunity so he would get a 30 percent discount for an early guilty plea

The 30 percent discount is for fine only and not the length of disqualification. Hes done well to get 12 months as he will also get offered the DDAC.

He would get fined either a band B or band C fine

To assist with that see the following and minus the 30 percent for an early guilty plea

Fine Band B 100% of relevant weekly income 75 – 125% of relevant weekly income
Fine Band C 150% of relevant weekly income 125 – 175% of relevant weekly income

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:23 pm

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:54 pm
We can't half pick 'em, it seems.

Wouldn't be much of a surprise if it happens at most clubs.

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:25 pm

out of the door in a few months anyway. what a waste of time this one has been - signed 4 years too late

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:26 pm

pushpinpussy wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:19 pm
He blew 59 so that puts it in the very lowest category of the sentencing guidelines. Just. He could have got between 12-16 months.

It looks like has pleaded guilty at the first opportunity so he would get a 30 percent discount for an early guilty plea

The 30 percent discount is for fine only and not the length of disqualification. Hes done well to get 12 months as he will also get offered the DDAC.

He would get fined either a band B or band C fine

To assist with that see the following and minus the 30 percent for an early guilty plea

Fine Band B 100% of relevant weekly income 75 – 125% of relevant weekly income
Fine Band C 150% of relevant weekly income 125 – 175% of relevant weekly income

We’ll explained pushpinpussy. Thank you.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:27 pm

Tear up his contract

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:29 pm

Papabendi wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:25 pm
out of the door in a few months anyway. what a waste of time this one has been - signed 4 years too late

Would have been a good signing in 2016 when Dyche wanted him

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:32 pm

To have a squad of 25 and the two of them get convicted for serious drink driving within a season is DISGUSTING. Shame on the two players. If ever I go for a curry with my mates a half lager or shandy is my lot, but even then I am conscious of it.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:34 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:27 pm
Tear up his contract

Sounds the right thing to do but I guess a precedent was set with Barnes

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:35 pm

What a season.Get it over, please.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:39 pm

Does this latest conviction point to bigger discipline problems within the club, possibly even a sign that the ‘Burnley mentality’ no longer means fierce discipline and a siege mentality?

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:48 pm

Nice to see he’s doing everything he can away from the pitch to put himself back in contention.

Clown.

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:55 pm

Hardly a days wages

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:57 pm

Get rid asap.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:00 pm

It's a low point for the club having 2 drink drivers in the first team squad.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:15 pm

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:39 pm
Does this latest conviction point to bigger discipline problems within the club, possibly even a sign that the ‘Burnley mentality’ no longer means fierce discipline and a siege mentality?

Watching us this season I get the feeling the will to "run through a brick wall" for Dyche is no longer there. The squad has been allowed to become stale, and too many of them know they're off this summer no matter what.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:22 pm

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:39 pm
Does this latest conviction point to bigger discipline problems within the club, possibly even a sign that the ‘Burnley mentality’ no longer means fierce discipline and a siege mentality?

It certainly doesn't help. It's hard to shake the feeling that there's something rotten at the club at the minute, and incidents like these just make it worse.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:33 pm

Daft really it’s not as if they can’t afford taxis money he’ll be on he could technically afford a chauffeur to be on standby at all times, hope some sort of in-house education is offered as it’s clearly becoming a problem within the club not that grown men should need it.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:34 pm

What I don’t get is taxis are so easy to get and players have so much money they could have waiting to take them home.

It’s not even like it’s expensive for them.

There is no excuse not to ring one.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:37 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:34 pm
What I don’t get is taxis are so easy to get and players have so much money they could have waiting to take them home.

It’s not even like it’s expensive for them.

There is no excuse not to ring one.

Clearly a don’t give a sh1t cultures manifested itself within the club.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:38 pm

Sack him. Unacceptable behaviour.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:45 pm

I thought any athlete worthy of the name didn't or shouldn't consume alcohol for fitness reasons:

https://super.stanford.edu/alcohol-drug ... erformance

To me it illustrates a cavalier attitude to their profession.

What are the club rules, if any, regarding alcohol?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:29 pm
Would have been a good signing in 2016 when Dyche wanted him

Is this another on the list of signings that Dyche ‘possibly’ didn’t want to make?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:46 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:00 pm
It's a low point for the club having 2 drink drivers in the first team squad.

That's just the ones daft enough to drive when pished.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:06 pm
Don't know but Barnes was fined almost £14,000.

Jose Mourinho was the magistrate that day if Stephens has got the going rate

in reality the fine from the courts should be at least a months wages from the defendant (I can see arguments for multiples of that) to get the message across as to the utter seriousness of the offence

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:04 pm

A friend of ours was killed by a drink-driving, selfish scumbag. I feel sick that in some way a bit of my money goes into his (Stephens) pocket. I feel the same way regarding Barnes.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:39 pm

Down_Rover wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:55 pm
Hardly a days wages

I'm no mathematician but i think he must be on about 17.5k to 20k a week to get the fine he has received