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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Zlatan » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:22 pm

bobinho wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:18 pm
Wow. That ten minutes must’ve been quite intense. :roll: :lol:
During the game is not the time to discuss changing the manager, after the game - perhaps. I do also like RVClaret’s suggestion too.

For the record though, if Dyche goes, it needs a clean sweep of deadwood too. As mentioned on match thread, too many players out of contract means they won’t play as hard as they could if they knew the difference was Prem or Championship football next season - all players needed to be invested in the success and not enough were this season.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by KRBFC » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:22 pm

I just wanna see us pass the ball and have a good go, don't expect to win game after game. This football has sucked the soul out the club, it's appalling to watch.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by claretgimmer » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:23 pm

Dyche himself said that nothing lasts for ever, it`s been a blast, build a statue whatever you want for what Dyche has done for our club but it`s over, it`s run it`s course, we are going to lose several players anyway so what better time to have fresh start, probably utilising the loan market, which Dyche hardly did and then was reluctant to give them a chance. Fresh eyes, fresh start new beginning hopefully with some younger hungrier players eager to prove themselves at Championship level, please.
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Re: Name the next manager

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Spijed » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:25 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:22 pm
I just wanna see us pass the ball and have a good go, don't expect to win game after game. This football has sucked the soul out the club, it's appalling to watch.
Ultimately, as Norwich have found out you can generally only have one or two seasons at this level before going down.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Spijed » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:25 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:24 pm
Any still going from this

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... 72#p188372
I remember Gary Monk was once suggested.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by KRBFC » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:26 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:25 pm
Ultimately, as Norwich have found out you can generally only have one or two seasons at this level before going down.
Says who?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by KRBFC » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:27 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:24 pm
Any still going from this

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... 72#p188372
You really fell for that? lmao

I thought the main suggestion being Paolo Di Canio was pretty obvious

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Spijed » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:29 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:26 pm
Says who?
The fact that every team that comes up without a budget hasn't managed to last as long as we have, simply because they've tried to be more entertaining.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by MACCA » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:37 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:54 pm
ALK have backed the manager. It's obvious the manager has no imagination when it comes to trying something new.
I feel you're correct

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:38 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:25 pm
I remember Gary Monk was once suggested.
His agent would be keen no doubt.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:38 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:18 pm
But he has from working with them over the past few years. The players are getting older, slower and considering next seasons options

We shouldn’t be relying on some of the players in this current squad, I’m not having a go, but they are not good enough and should’ve been replaced some time ago.
Against the big boys I agree, but these players are good enough to play against the bottom half sides.
And good enough to pass the ball to each other against Norwich.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:41 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:25 pm
Ultimately, as Norwich have found out you can generally only have one or two seasons at this level before going down.
Probably,
But if the club gets its finances right then, like Norwich, there's the chance of getting back up.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by JohnMcGreal » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:46 pm

NickBFC wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:11 pm
Corberan good shout. Keep reading Dyche is the best man to get us back up. Really? The Championship has moved on since we were last there, not sure you can clog your way out of it now. Not convinced he is the man to rebuild us with youth and energy either. Sad state of affairs.
Did we clog our way out of it in 13/14 or 15/16?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by DCWat » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:47 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:54 pm
ALK have backed the manager. It's obvious the manager has no imagination when it comes to trying something new.
I’m not convinced that they have backed the manager. They’ve certainly not pushed the boat out from a budget perspective in order to add what was needed to the squad.

Saying that, I’m not absolving Dyche of any blame here. If he’s had a say in signings, he’s not addressed key areas and it could be argued, not identified players that suit our system.

We’re going to lose our best player for free - he’s been fantastic for us but perhaps some wheeling and dealing might have been the way to go to revamp an ageing squad.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by jos » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:47 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:00 pm
If he had any dignity about him he'd walk at the end of the season. 100k a week? Pathetic.
Would you walk away from 100k a week?

Unless you had a better job lined up.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by lancastrian » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:56 pm

Joey Barton.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:56 pm

jos wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:47 pm
Would you walk away from 100k a week?

Unless you had a better job lined up.
That 100k a week will probably have a wage cut of more than 50% you’d imagine. No way can a Championship club have a manager earning 40k+. But still, he might consider he’s earned enough money over these years and probably wouldn’t be out of work for too long.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:57 pm

lancastrian wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:56 pm
Joey Barton.
No no no

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Spijed » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:57 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:41 pm
Probably,
But if the club gets its finances right then, like Norwich, there's the chance of getting back up.
By the sounds of it Norwich being a yo-yo club is starting to wear a bit thin with their supporters as they seem to want Delia Smith to resign. Looks like they are getting bored of the idea that everytime they go up they come straight back down.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:57 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:56 pm
That 100k a week will probably have a wage cut of more than 50% you’d imagine. No way can a Championship club have a manager earning 40k+. But still, he might consider he’s earned enough money over these years and probably wouldn’t be out of work for too long.
I can’t imagine him walking that contract might do us in big time

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Middle-agedClaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:59 pm

Goobs wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:00 pm
Nathan Jones.
I think he’s been gone too long.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:00 pm

jos wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:47 pm
Would you walk away from 100k a week?

Unless you had a better job lined up.
If I was already a multi-millionaire I might.
Staying and seeing out his current contract could mean it's his last decent one, resigning and accepting his share of responsibility might add to his stock?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Middle-agedClaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:00 pm

lancastrian wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:56 pm
Joey Barton.
Please God - no. I’d sooner Rooney - and I wouldn’t want him either.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:01 pm

I reckon Dyche has got until the end of November if, though most likely when, we go down. If we aren't in the promotion pack, he'll be potted.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by spt_claret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:02 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:12 pm
The trouble with people saying they don't want pragmatic football should read the Rover's message board. They don't half regret the day they sacked Big Sam.
The dream is of course to win everything and play gorgeous Total Football.
This will always be beyond Burnley so I will take pragmatism any day.
The season we finished 7th was genuinely a delight to watch. Tactical and defensive masterclasses regularly. We've been some way of that for a while, the rest of the league has improved and we haven't for the most part.
I think if we go down, we have to stick with Dyche for the best part of a season in the Championship given his track record versus total unknowns/unprovens or gambles having to make a big step up. If results are grim around November time that's obviously a different scenario.
But if there's three things you can rely on with football fans it's
1- short memories
2- penchant for emotional/kneejerk reactions
3- easily satisfied by basic PR and superficial noises. See all the fluff about our current owners because they use Twitter, or how emulating Norwich "playing good football" despite being a constant yoyo club is the way to go.
I'd much rather make incremental gains slowly hanging on in the Premier League than play flashy but constantly bounce up and down. The incremental gains have stopped and reversed and that needs to change, but changing manager is meaningless if we don't see change in investment- and two continental signings don't change the reality that our net spend was negative this year, and the club's newfound debt makes playing investment almost impossible.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by BLH_Claret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:02 pm

ebby wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:22 pm
Mike Bassett.
Wouldn’t leave Burnley….oh, hang on a minute.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:04 pm

Chrissy waddle back to finish what he started

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:06 pm

If SD wants to go voluntary he will if not he will be here next season
We have no money to pay him off
We are strapped for cash

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by DCWat » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:07 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:06 pm
If SD wants to go voluntary he will if not he will be here next season
We have no money to pay him off
We are strapped for cash
Strapped for cash, strapped for a midfield, strapped for creativity

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:07 pm

What total nonsense we never clogged our way out either time we got promoted
We played fast attacking football either Ings,Vokes and Gray scoring for fun

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:09 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:07 pm
What total nonsense we never clogged our way out either time we got promoted
We played fast attacking football either Ings,Vokes and Gray scoring for fun
We played anything but fast attacking football the last season there. It was direct, efficient, rigid stuff throughout. I remember watching us thinking how the hell have we just won that, Bolton away springs to mind. First season with ings Vokes Trippier and Marney I’d agree, that was really good.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Nonayforever » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:11 pm

Daniel Farke. Currently unemployed and has Championship credentials playing good flowing football.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:11 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:57 pm
By the sounds of it Norwich being a yo-yo club is starting to wear a bit thin with their supporters as they seem to want Delia Smith to resign. Looks like they are getting bored of the idea that everytime they go up they come straight back down.
How many times?
Is this their 2nd (probable) relegation?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:13 pm

Nuno Santos (ex Wolves) - proven record in that league and out of work.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Goobs » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:16 pm

Middle-agedClaret wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:59 pm
I think he’s been gone too long.
Isn't he the Luton manager, or am I missing a joke?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:17 pm

Anyone who can get us playing a sequence of six passes together more than twice a season

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Spijed » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:19 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:11 pm
How many times?
Is this their 2nd (probable) relegation?
Since the end of the 13/14 season they've been relegated three times, this will be their 4th time.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:24 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:19 pm
Since the end of the 13/14 season they've been relegated three times, this will be their 4th time.
Crikey! i must have missed that.
So the plus side is 3 brilliant seasons with promotion .
Nothing to moan about there.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:26 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:13 pm
Nuno Santos (ex Wolves) - proven record in that league and out of work.
Rumoured palace couldn’t agree on terms with him due to his ridiculous demands, he would need a reality check coming here & to lower his demands if the rumours were true.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:31 pm

Sadly , unless Dyche drastically changes his ways of operating (system changes when needed) , then I think his time with us may be dwindling out. However he’s just been handed a lucrative new deal and I’m not sure we can afford to pay him out of that. He’s still a young manager and personally I think his man management takes his a long way, if only he could adapt his tactics accordingly he’s be a huge success with or without us. To add to that he’s been brilliant for Burnley and vice Versa, I don’t want to see him go, I want to see him turn it around , to adapt and to evolve as per the mantra . UTC

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:33 pm

We need a coach with a more progressive outlook with new ideas and new ways of playing we are stale beyond belief

The Bodo Glimt guy sounds like the one, someone like Graham Potter

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:36 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:33 pm
We need a coach with a more progressive outlook with new ideas and new ways of playing we are stale beyond belief

The Bodo Glimt guy sounds like the one, someone like Graham Potter
Our players aren’t good enough, (not our current bunch anyway)

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Murger » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:38 pm

This summer is the perfect time to get shut of Dyche. With 10 players OOC, it's the perfect opportunity for the new guy to bring his own players in.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:39 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:38 pm
This summer is the perfect time to get shut of Dyche. With 10 players OOC, it's the perfect opportunity for the new guy to bring his own players in.
This ten, can you list them?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Murger » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:41 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:39 pm
This ten, can you list them?
Why? Can you not be bothered to look it up?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by DCWat » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:44 pm

10 albeit with a couple having an option of an extra year and one who isn’t a first team player.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Middle-agedClaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:45 pm

Goobs wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:16 pm
Isn't he the Luton manager, or am I missing a joke?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SzQOvcw6cZk

I suspect you are a bit younger than me and Boatshead Bill, Goobs. Listen to the chorus and all will be revealed…
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:46 pm

I'd rather see us trying to play good football with enthusiasm and get beat than play crap football and get beat anyway.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:46 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:41 pm
Why? Can you not be bothered to look it up?
Can you? Seriously?

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