Name the next manager

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Our players aren’t good enough, (not our current bunch anyway)

Yes we need a clean sweep from top to bottom why aren’t any youth teamers coming in , that has to be a worry also waste of money if there’s no progression from such an expensive academy.

Only players I’d keep are

Pope, Cornet, Weghorst, Collins, Vydra, Taylor, Pieters, McNeil, Jay if we are really struggling to find a new attacker.

I’d keep Tarks also but he’s obv going

[Murger]

Can you? Seriously?

Tarks, Mee, Jay, Cork, Vydra, Pieters, Barnes, Stephens, Lennon and Bardsley.

[boatshed bill]

Yes we need a clean sweep from top to bottom why aren’t any youth teamers coming in , that has to be a worry also waste of money if there’s no progression from such an expensive academy.

Only players I’d keep are

Pope, Cornet, Weghorst, Collins, Vydra, Taylor, Pieters, McNeil

I’d keep Tarks also but he’s obv going

Not sure if you watch the U23s, but the football we play at that level is poor.
4-4-2!! Usually.
It strikes me that players "stall" in this age group, some go on loan but would be lucky to get in a L1 side.
We really need to step this side of the football club up ASAP

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Not sure if you watch the U23s, but the football we play at that level is poor.
4-4-2!! Usually.
It strikes me that players "stall" in this age group, some go on loan but would be lucky to get in a L1 side.
We really need to step this side of the football club up ASAP

We need a new manager who can improve young players I’ve never watched the u23’s but thanks for the insight, the first team is bad enough for the nerves

[spt_claret]

Yes we need a clean sweep from top to bottom why aren’t any youth teamers coming in , that has to be a worry also waste of money if there’s no progression from such an expensive academy.

Only players I’d keep are

Pope, Cornet, Weghorst, Collins, Vydra, Taylor, Pieters, McNeil, Jay if we are really struggling to find a new attacker.

I’d keep Tarks also but he’s obv going

Good luck keeping any of Pope, Cornet or Weghorst in the Championship. McNeil might stay if only due to his inconsistent form but if anything that will just lower the price not stop the sale. Taylor will certainly have his suitors.
Can't understand why Mee isn't on your list but if we drop we probably won't keep him anyway.
It's going to be either a massive rebuild the likes of when Cotterill took over, or a host of one year extensions to buy more time to refresh the squad. The former is unlikely to result in promotion, the latter is just buying time.
Either way I wouldn't be expecting us to have the money to invest much in the squad even if we have the expected 3-5 player sales. Wage drops don't matter when we have a massively reduced cashflow and a mountain of debt.
Anyone expecting us to let all the OOCs deemed not up to it go, retain all our best players, and strengthen the squad meaningfully, in a lower league with our current finances, is in for a crushing disappointment.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Good luck keeping any of Pope, Cornet or Weghorst in the Championship. McNeil might stay if only due to his inconsistent form but if anything that will just lower the price not stop the sale. Taylor will certainly have his suitors.
Can't understand why Mee isn't on your list but if we drop we probably won't keep him anyway.
It's going to be either a massive rebuild the likes of when Cotterill took over, or a host of one year extensions to buy more time to refresh the squad. The former is unlikely to result in promotion, the latter is just buying time.
Either way I wouldn't be expecting us to have the money to invest much in the squad even if we have the expected 3-5 player sales. Wage drops don't matter when we have a massively reduced cashflow and a mountain of debt.
Anyone expecting us to let all the OOCs deemed not up to it go, retain all our best players, and strengthen the squad meaningfully, in a lower league with our current finances, is in for a crushing disappointment.

Yes I would include Mee in a retained list but I guess he is off, edit function didn’t work, I think we are going to be completely screwed should we go down , I can’t see it ending well at all as this football we are playing now is toxic and we are going to need 10 new players , argh !

[DCWat]

Yes I would include Mee in a retained list but I guess he is off, edit function didn’t work, I think we are going to be completely screwed should we go down , I can’t see it ending well at all as this football we are playing now is toxic and we are going to need 10 new players , argh !

More worrying is that we seem to struggle to get deals done early. Unless we are able to address this, the pre-season could be a write off, which does t bode well for 22/23.

[Buxtonclaret]

Hans Christian Andersen

Then we can all go to bed happy.

[IanMcL]

Sean Dyche

Off to bed

[bumba]

Right now I couldn't care less if it was Mr.Blobby, at least he'd see the blatantly obvious 12 months ago

[BabylonClaret]

Good luck keeping any of Pope, Cornet or Weghorst in the Championship. McNeil might stay if only due to his inconsistent form but if anything that will just lower the price not stop the sale.

No one will want either Weghorst or Cornet - neither have the physicality or pace for the Prem (not yet anyway). McNeil is more likely to go.

I think Pope will go for a fee (he will want to stay in England thinking so will need Prem football). Other than that I would be surprised people will be in for many more.

[Goobs]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SzQOvcw6cZk

I suspect you are a bit younger than me and Boatshead Bill, Goobs. Listen to the chorus and all will be revealed…

Yep you got me. Not a song I had come across before and probably about 10 years or so before my birth that.

[williamjblazkowicz]

Michael Duff. Been saying it for seasons. I think he’s a good, young manager. He knows the club inside, out. He’s popular and will have the backing of the fans.

[boatshed bill]

Pope should leave, and possibly McNeil, both have PL careers ahead of them.

[ClaretLoup]

I also think Duffer is worth a shout. Cheltenham gave Man City a fair run for their money in the FA Cup last season and he has done well on a limited budget to get them promoted and comfortably stay in a higher division.

He was asked in an interview who he spoke to most about football management and his reply was Sean Dyche with respect to man management and Steve Cotterill re tactics.

It’s going to be a massive rebuild next season and we need a manager who knows the division below to bring in bargains with future potential. I have a feeling that Duff can do this. We need to assemble a group of players whose aim in life is to better themselves and not just mark time.

[RalphCoatesComb]

You morons who are calling for Sean Dyche's head may well get your way, to the total detriment of our proud Club.

Sean Dyche has been, and hopefully will continue to be, our best manager of the last 50 years. With limited resources, he has worked miracles and kept us in the Premier League against all the odds.

We still have 8 games left this season and seasons and seasons beyond. Ditch Sean Dyche and you risk ruining our Club.

Don't like what you see? Go elsewhere... please!

[Murger]

You morons who are calling for Sean Dyche's head may well get your way, to the total detriment of our proud Club.

Sean Dyche has been, and hopefully will continue to be, our best manager of the last 50 years. With limited resources, he has worked miracles and kept us in the Premier League against all the odds.

We still have 8 games left this season and seasons and seasons beyond. Ditch Sean Dyche and you risk ruining our Club.

Don't like what you see? Go elsewhere... please!

What a jumped up response. People have every right to be asking questions of the manager.

[Silkyskills1]

Duff has done nothing to suggest a move from a season in League 1 to the Championship. It requires a brave decision not a comfortable one. But decisions have to be made.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You morons who are calling for Sean Dyche's head may well get your way, to the total detriment of our proud Club.

Sean Dyche has been, and hopefully will continue to be, our best manager of the last 50 years. With limited resources, he has worked miracles and kept us in the Premier League against all the odds.

We still have 8 games left this season and seasons and seasons beyond. Ditch Sean Dyche and you risk ruining our Club.

Don't like what you see? Go elsewhere... please!

Name calling and telling fans to go elsewhere. Very entitled indeed.

Surely fans have the right to question the manager with worst record in English football over the last 2 seasons?

I’m not Dyche out but can certainly understand the people that are.

[RVclaret]

For those who don’t know much about my suggestion of Knutsen from Bodo Glimt, here is a decent article:

https://www.hudl.com/blog/bodo-glimt-tactic-wyscout

I think he’d be a good shout, plays attractive football, will know the Scandinavian leagues very well to attract some lower cost signings and hopefully would be open to moving into English football.

[KRBFC]

More worrying is that we seem to struggle to get deals done early. Unless we are able to address this, the pre-season could be a write off, which does t bode well for 22/23.

There's been some incredible free transfers and loans available during the last 2-3 years, we haven't bothered with either market which is strange for a supposed skint club.

[KRBFC]

I'd look at Jokanovic, despite his poor time at Sheffield United.

[Spijed]

I’m not Dyche out but can certainly understand the people that are.

Really?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Really?

Yes I can understand why people want him out

[arise_sir_charge]

RalphCotesComb, might I suggest you go elsewhere, preferably wherever Sean Dyche rocks up next so you can continue to support him and not Burnley. Please.

[gandhisflipflop]

I’m not having it that no other manager can improve us. How many actually suggested Dyche before his appointment? I think we need to look in a different direction. Someone who isn’t brought in to ‘understand Burnley fans and the town’. We need someone to show Burnley fans that there is a bigger world out there and change Burnley’s image and the minds of Burnley fans.


If we are going to look in a different direction. I think we should recruit from abroad. I really like what Marcelo Gallardo has done with River Plate. He has shown longevity in his job, has won things, maybe wanting a new challenge. Someone who to my surprise isn’t linked with any top European jobs when they arise. A similar to Pochettino pre Southampton.

[gandhisflipflop]

You morons who are calling for Sean Dyche's head may well get your way, to the total detriment of our proud Club.

Sean Dyche has been, and hopefully will continue to be, our best manager of the last 50 years. With limited resources, he has worked miracles and kept us in the Premier League against all the odds.

We still have 8 games left this season and seasons and seasons beyond. Ditch Sean Dyche and you risk ruining our Club.

Don't like what you see? Go elsewhere... please!

And you morons who have their head in the sand are delaying the inevitable.

[SalisburyClaret]

Ideally -
Someone with experience of top flight football
British - so he can communicate with the majority
Used to working on a very tight budget
Gets the most from players with limitations
Sounds like Dyche to me

[Murger]

Ideally -
Someone with experience of top flight football
British - so he can communicate with the majority
Used to working on a very tight budget
Gets the most from players with limitations
Sounds like Dyche to me

So you're happy to stick with the status quo?

[jrgbfc]

This idea that Sean Dyche is the only manager in the world capable of managing Burnley FC is absolute *****. Are people really that terrified of a future without him?

[RVclaret]

Ideally -
Someone with experience of top flight football
British - so he can communicate with the majority
Used to working on a very tight budget
Gets the most from players with limitations
Sounds like Dyche to me

Why someone with experience of top flight football? We won’t be in it. You don’t even need someone with experience in the Championship, tbh, look at Marco Silva’s Fulham who have completely dominated.

British to communicate? That’s just bizarre and really closed minded. Most foreign coaches speak and communicate very well in English. Tight budget? We’ll have one of the leagues largest budgets for next season. Gets the most of players with limitations, I think Dyche used to be able to do this, perhaps not this season, but it’s also delusional to think no other coach can.

[spt_claret]

Why someone with experience of top flight football? We won’t be in it. You don’t even need someone with experience in the Championship, tbh, look at Marco Silva’s Fulham who have completely dominated.

British to communicate? That’s just bizarre and really closed minded. Most foreign coaches speak and communicate very well in English. Tight budget? We’ll have one of the leagues largest budgets for next season. Gets the most of players with limitations, I think Dyche used to be able to do this, perhaps not this season, but it’s also delusional to think no other coach can.

Of course Fulham have dominated. They have far more money than we can dream of. Asinine comparison.
Given our financial situation I'd be doubtful that we have such a huge budget compared to others. Plus given the need to replace so many players (assuming we try to satisfy those who want a total clear out) that money could soon evaporate without sales- which creates new gaps to fill likely at a lower standard. Dyche has 2 promotions from the championship in 2 full seasons with us, with minimal resources. Whatever the resources next year, that suggests he's still well placed for getting us back up. If it's looking grim by November or December that's obviously a disaster, but it's far less of a gamble than Knutsen or Duff (who I think will be good in time but is too inexperienced at only low levels).
With all due respect, the Norwegian league is some way below even the Championship. And a couple of good results against Celtic and Alkmaar prove as little as our good results against Spurs this year and Liverpool last year. Less in truth as those teams are weaker.
Making out like it's anything but a colossal gamble during an already uncertain and risky period is very misguided.

[Spijed]

This idea that Sean Dyche is the only manager in the world capable of managing Burnley FC is absolute *****. Are people really that terrified of a future without him?

Whilst what you say is true there is little proof that there are other managers out there that could have kept a smaller club in the prem with a limited budget.

[RVclaret]

Of course Fulham have dominated. They have far more money than we can dream of. Asinine comparison.
Given our financial situation I'd be doubtful that we have such a huge budget compared to others. Plus given the need to replace so many players (assuming we try to satisfy those who want a total clear out) that money could soon evaporate without sales- which creates new gaps to fill likely at a lower standard. Dyche has 2 promotions from the championship in 2 full seasons with us, with minimal resources. Whatever the resources next year, that suggests he's still well placed for getting us back up. If it's looking grim by November or December that's obviously a disaster, but it's far less of a gamble than Knutsen or Duff (who I think will be good in time but is too inexperienced at only low levels).
With all due respect, the Norwegian league is some way below even the Championship. And a couple of good results against Celtic and Alkmaar prove as little as our good results against Spurs this year and Liverpool last year. Less in truth as those teams are weaker.
Making out like it's anything but a colossal gamble during an already uncertain and risky period is very misguided.

Fulham spent circa 15m net this season. If my forecasts for our finances / the odd player sale is accurate (found on another thread), I’d say we’d have at least that amount to spend, if not more.

Dyche has 2 promotions from that league but so does Neil Warnock. I get your point, though. Knutsen could be a gamble but then again so is almost anyone. He’s done an incredible job there and importantly plays good, possession based modern football. I’d say It’s also a gamble sticking with a manager with 14 wins from the past 68 games, who seems completely devoid of new ideas.

Not keen on changing manager midway through the season as you suggest, Id rather, if we do change, it’s in the summer so the new squad building can be done by the correct manager. For example, if the new manager prefers passing football, you know, where our players can string 6 passes together, then he would be better bringing in more technical players for this style.

[Murger]

Whilst what you say is true there is little proof that there are other managers out there that could have kept a smaller club in the prem with a limited budget.

But we won't be in the Prem next season.

[Dark Cloud]

Duff has shown himself to be a very good manager. It's not about the ex claret thing. I believe he's done an excellent job at Cheltenham and would be the one I'd go for tbh. Level headed, young for a manager and ambitious.

[jrgbfc]

Whilst what you say is true there is little proof that there are other managers out there that could have kept a smaller club in the prem with a limited budget.

So we should stick with him forever? The last 2 years have been dismal, no matter how much people try and dress it up, or blame it on Mike Garlick.

[spt_claret]

Fulham spent circa 15m net this season. If my forecasts for our finances / the odd player sale is accurate (found on another thread), I’d say we’d have at least that amount to spend, if not more.

Dyche has 2 promotions from that league but so does Neil Warnock. I get your point, though. Knutsen could be a gamble but then again so is almost anyone. He’s done an incredible job there and importantly plays good, possession based modern football. I’d say It’s also a gamble sticking with a manager with 14 wins from the past 68 games, who seems completely devoid of new ideas.

Not keen on changing manager midway through the season as you suggest, Id rather, if we do change, it’s in the summer so the new squad building can be done by the correct manager. For example, if the new manager prefers passing football, you know, where our players can string 6 passes together, then he would be better bringing in more technical players for this style.

Fulham have also aggregate spent a lot more than us in general the last few years, and I would be willing to bet generally pay more than wages (notwithstanding our bonus structure allegedly).
I couldn't give one iota about this obsession with "modern possession passing football". Results are far more important. We've not had them for 18 months, we've also had pitiful resources to work with for 24 months. We've had excellent results in the Championship under Dyche and would rather give him that opportunity.
You're right that almost anyone is a gamble,which is precisely my point. The club has taken more than enough misguided gambles since the sale.

[RVclaret]

Fulham have also aggregate spent a lot more than us in general the last few years, and I would be willing to bet generally pay more than wages (notwithstanding our bonus structure allegedly).
I couldn't give one iota about this obsession with "modern possession passing football". Results are far more important. We've not had them for 18 months, we've also had pitiful resources to work with for 24 months. We've had excellent results in the Championship under Dyche and would rather give him that opportunity.
You're right that almost anyone is a gamble,which is precisely my point. The club has taken more than enough misguided gambles since the sale.

They have probably done a better job at squad building, if that’s what you are trying to say. But their squad probably cost similar to what our current ones does at face value, while they’ve had an outstanding youngster promoted in Carvalho who’s being snapped up by Liverpool.

You may not care about the style of football but I think you’ll find many fans do. In fact, the main complaints on this board aren’t necessarily with impending relegation, it’s the dismal brand of uninspiring football we’ve sat through for the past 2 years. It’s laughable if you think struggling to create a single chance against Norwich, the worst defence in the league, over 180 minutes, is good enough. Let alone continuing the exact same tactics of giving their two centre halves heading practice all game.

Keeping Dyche is also a gamble. Firstly, what will his wage be in that league? At a rumoured 100k now p/w, will it have a 70%+ cut inside? As anything above 30k p/w in that league for a manager is asking a lot.

[SalisburyClaret]

They have probably done a better job at squad building, if that’s what you are trying to say. But their squad probably cost similar to what our current ones does at face value, while they’ve had an outstanding youngster promoted in Carvalho who’s being snapped up by Liverpool.

You may not care about the style of football but I think you’ll find many fans do. In fact, the main complaints on this board aren’t necessarily with impending relegation, it’s the dismal brand of uninspiring football we’ve sat through for the past 2 years. It’s laughable if you think struggling to create a single chance against Norwich, the worst defence in the league, over 180 minutes, is good enough. Let alone continuing the exact same tactics of giving their two centre halves heading practice all game.

Keeping Dyche is also a gamble. Firstly, what will his wage be in that league? At a rumoured 100k now p/w, will it have a 70%+ cut inside? As anything above 30k p/w in that league for a manager is asking a lot.

No chances against Norwich? Obviously you haven’t seen the game.

Any manager is a gamble - Dyche, with his 2 championship promotions is one most clubs in that division would be desperate for.

As for style of football - the only request I hear, other than on this board, is to play it to feet

[pushpinpussy]

ive not read any of this thread because it is an insult and shows a lack of respect to our current manage to have this discussion . i wish the mods would remove things like this .

[Murger]

ive not read any of this thread because it is an insult and shows a lack of respect to our current manage to have this discussion . i wish the mods would remove things like this .

You can't be serious?

[BLH_Claret]

You can't be serious?

If you disagree with it, try to shut down the conversation. Sadly it’s the way of the world at the moment.

[spt_claret]

They have probably done a better job at squad building, if that’s what you are trying to say. But their squad probably cost similar to what our current ones does at face value, while they’ve had an outstanding youngster promoted in Carvalho who’s being snapped up by Liverpool.

You may not care about the style of football but I think you’ll find many fans do. In fact, the main complaints on this board aren’t necessarily with impending relegation, it’s the dismal brand of uninspiring football we’ve sat through for the past 2 years. It’s laughable if you think struggling to create a single chance against Norwich, the worst defence in the league, over 180 minutes, is good enough. Let alone continuing the exact same tactics of giving their two centre halves heading practice all game.

Keeping Dyche is also a gamble. Firstly, what will his wage be in that league? At a rumoured 100k now p/w, will it have a 70%+ cut inside? As anything above 30k p/w in that league for a manager is asking a lot.

Yes they've built the squad better, because they have far more resources to play with and will ultimately be a more attractive prospect to most players- not because of playstyle but because of the club's funds, location and general profile as a London rich club.
Again, that dismal football has kept us going in the Premier League for longer than richer clubs trying better football. I'd rather we scrap in the Premier League than be the flashiest team in the Championship.
Cornet missed an empty net from 3 yards against Norwich, you cant make a better chance. We also had a couple of speculative efforts from corners which unlike their first goal or Everton's Vs United didn't get lucky deflections and pay off. We weren't dazzling and definitely ought to create more, but saying we created nothing is untrue. It's these absurd reductionist statements and hyperbole that drive me crazy, fans are incapable of rational balance its either the worst thing ever or everything is unassailable (or you're accused of saying this by debating the hyperbolic types).
Keeping Dyche is significantly less of a gamble for the reasons I've outlined, and yes his wages are likely high. I expect a payoff would also be, so we wouldn't really save anything there.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

You morons who are calling for Sean Dyche's head may well get your way, to the total detriment of our proud Club.

Sean Dyche has been, and hopefully will continue to be, our best manager of the last 50 years. With limited resources, he has worked miracles and kept us in the Premier League against all the odds.

We still have 8 games left this season and seasons and seasons beyond. Ditch Sean Dyche and you risk ruining our Club.

Don't like what you see? Go elsewhere... please!

Name calling is very childish grow up.

Plus Dyche has spent more than any manager we have had in the clubs total history so that argument is wearing thin.

I would not give him £50m to spend on 32 year old pros

The question is why can’t his team pass a football to each other?

Your post is basically saying Dyche is bigger than the club he’s only been here ten years. Can’t see him lasting much longer the football we play is awful don’t know why fans like you can’t see it .

[Bfc]

IF the team is relegated at the end of the season, I would think that the wage of Dyche as a Championship manager would be reduced accordingly. This maybe would then effect the amount of severance pay he would be entitled to, if the board decide to terminate his contract.
Perhaps a severance payment is something lawyers on both sides will have drawn up, when agreeing the managers/coaches contracts.

[pushpinpussy]

You can't be serious?

Yes I am serious. Its shows a total lack of contempt for the best manager in years at our club. I appreciate some posters want change ( a very low percentage who whinge about anything usually) but please show Sean Dyche some respect as he’s still our manager and hopefully he will be for years to come.

[BLH_Claret]

Yes I am serious. Its shows a total lack of contempt for the best manager in years at our club. I appreciate some posters want change ( a very low percentage who whinge about anything usually) but please show Sean Dyche some respect as he’s still our manager and hopefully he will be for years to come.

Almost Churchillian

[ElectroClaret]

Another one for Nathan Jones, if he'd come.

[Scott Arfield's Swag]

I'd go and try and get Rooney.