He was mentioned earlier in the thread, even if we were interested in him, I can't see why he'd entertain joining a club heading to the Championship.
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Duff and Wade in the Summer may be a wild card.
We are now even more unlikely to stay up post SD.
Simply because whoever we get will be always compared to SD.
At least Duff and Wade may get supporter backing.
Can't say that for other candidates.
We are now even more unlikely to stay up post SD.
Simply because whoever we get will be always compared to SD.
At least Duff and Wade may get supporter backing.
Can't say that for other candidates.
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I’d be very happy with Wilder but with Boro still near a playoff place it probably won’t happen. Critchley would be a more realistic choice and somebody who ticks a lot of boxes. If we go for a Big Sam type option, I’ll probably not bother any more.
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Evatt at Bolton? Doing a good rebuilding job there plus his exploits at Barrowcelona!
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Apologies, missed any post mentioning him. However, isn’t that what he did when he went to Newcastle?
I think he knows he isn’t going to get a ‘big’ club again and after the Everton fiasco (which he shouldn’t have taken in the first place) he has what could be termed as a point to prove. He would command the respect of everyone in the squad. And he is fairly local.
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Name the next manager.
Tony Mowbray.
Tony Mowbray.
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Looking at some well rated managers, doing well with more unfashionable teams and limited budgets, Urs Fischer and Christian Streich would appear, on paper, to be worth a look.
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One achieved 7 seasons in the premier league, 2 promotions from the championship including a league win, a European qualification and transformed the club from top to bottom, pretty much constantly delivering results way in advance of resources available.arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:31 amSomething rather ironic about Dande’s love for Dyche but hatred for Cotterill, just proves that there could be more than one way (albeit almost identical) to skin a cat.
The other had the club bobbing about in the bottom half of the division below, winning nothing and pretty much constantly delivering results below the resources available. His biggest achievement was installing a new bridge at Gawthorpe.
Some fans will tell you that their football is the same. Those fans are only assessing the aesthetics of certain parts of the game, and missing huge differences in what they actually set teams up to achieve.
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If it works it works, a valid reason must exist why some club's prefer that approach mainly an unsettled fanbase, no manager should ever feel he's secure to the extent that results don't matter, dyche in some ways was toxic for the club with the unhealthy amount of control.he was allowed to have & pace has took him down a peg or two & showed him who's boss, hopefully it will serve a stern reminder that in the future it's unhealthy to let that same situation develop again. For years amongst some people it felt like dyche FC & not burnley FC.dandeclaret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:36 pmThe majority of under performing football clubs operate on a hire and fire basis. Watford are probably the only ones who are remotely close to being above expected results.
But hey, why not follow the rest of the clubs, spunking 150% plus wages to turnover in the championship and paying multiple coaching squads, further growing the debt and crippling the club.
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My point is that there were a number of fans that, similar to Dyche, believed that only Cotterill could get results with the squad we had and that he was the limit of what we could expect. Turns out they were wrong, That could easily be the case now.dandeclaret wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:16 amOne achieved 7 seasons in the premier league, 2 promotions from the championship including a league win, a European qualification and transformed the club from top to bottom, pretty much constantly delivering results way in advance of resources available.
The other had the club bobbing about in the bottom half of the division below, winning nothing and pretty much constantly delivering results below the resources available. His biggest achievement was installing a new bridge at Gawthorpe.
Some fans will tell you that their football is the same. Those fans are only assessing the aesthetics of certain parts of the game, and missing huge differences in what they actually set teams up to achieve.
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My recollection of Cotterill was that there was a pretty even split about whether he was the right person for the job. From polls on Twitter / Facebook and comments on here I’d say it’s more of an 80% stating this is the wrong decision for Dyche.arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:00 amMy point is that there were a number of fans that, similar to Dyche, believed that only Cotterill could get results with the squad we had and that he was the limit of what we could expect. Turns out they were wrong, That could easily be the case now.
Percentage wise, what do you think the chances of finding somebody who could improve in what Dyche did? Versus the percentage chance of ending up with somebody who will perform worse?
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It’s unrealistic to constantly look back in the developing world of football. Dyche did some great things for this club which we should all be grateful for however the game had progressed and he hadn’t.dandeclaret wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:17 amMy recollection of Cotterill was that there was a pretty even split about whether he was the right person for the job. From polls on Twitter / Facebook and comments on here I’d say it’s more of an 80% stating this is the wrong decision for Dyche.
Percentage wise, what do you think the chances of finding somebody who could improve in what Dyche did? Versus the percentage chance of ending up with somebody who will perform worse?
Can we find somebody who can replicated the development of the last 10 years? No way. Can we find somebody to improve on the last 10 months, even 18 months? Absolutely. And that is the point. In football, the past only goes so far in giving you a positive future.
Finally, if you want to consider fan polls, the last team in this situation was Leicester. It ended up being the right decision for them
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Not bothered who it is really so long as they play good passing entertaining football
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Dyche hadn’t progressed? Or the clubs resources hadn’t progressed?Penwortham_Claret wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:45 amIt’s unrealistic to constantly look back in the developing world of football. Dyche did some great things for this club which we should all be grateful for however the game had progressed and he hadn’t.
Can we find somebody who can replicated the development of the last 10 years? No way. Can we find somebody to improve on the last 10 months, even 18 months? Absolutely. And that is the point. In football, the past only goes so far in giving you a positive future.
Finally, if you want to consider fan polls, the last team in this situation was Leicester. It ended up being the right decision for them
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Di Zerbi might want out of Shaktar Donestk, he’d be unreal
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Both!!dandeclaret wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:51 amDyche hadn’t progressed? Or the clubs resources hadn’t progressed?
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My preference would be to wake up and this be a bad dream! But if I HAD to go for a new manager it’d probably be Critchley.
The heart says Duff and Wade but I’ve got a feeling there are going to be some dark years ahead for us and I wouldn’t want to ruin their legacy with us.
The heart says Duff and Wade but I’ve got a feeling there are going to be some dark years ahead for us and I wouldn’t want to ruin their legacy with us.
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I think you’re probably right to say there’s a larger % chance ending up worse, although I’d suggest two things. Firstly, I’m not sure we need to aim for an improvement on Dyche’s overall record. We’d probably be happy with marginally worse than his first 8 years. Statistically it’d probably be difficult not to improve on the win % of the past 18 months. Secondly, the odds are probably stacked firmly against him replicating what’s gone before in the next 2-3 years. For anyone in the same role for 10+ years, it’s hard to keep things fresh. I don’t think the Dyche we’re replacing now is necessarily the version/standard it would have been if you were doing it a few years ago.dandeclaret wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:17 amPercentage wise, what do you think the chances of finding somebody who could improve in what Dyche did? Versus the percentage chance of ending up with somebody who will perform worse?
So, if you’re asking if we are likely get better than Dyche at his peak, the answer is firmly no. That’s not what we’re replacing now though in my view.
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And win games?clitheroeclaret3 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:50 amNot bothered who it is really so long as they play good passing entertaining football
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This guy is not even in the betting but heavily linked
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Jackson will be in charge until the end of the season he has been working wonders with the under 23
then they will appoint based on the division we are in
then they will appoint based on the division we are in
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If I was a betting man it will already have been agreed & announcement Monday, that might explain why all the coaching staff including Mercer have gone.
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Massive jump from u23 to premier league first team, Pace would of kept Dyche until the summer if that's the case, I think the new man will be inplace by Mon/Tue ready in time for our midweek home game, he's already said we've only got 8 games left to try and stay up
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If the owners are looking for a impact signing and want to be innovate and progress their commercial side; Emma Hayes would be a great choice. It wouldn’t be popular with the fan base, but I think she would be a fantastic manager for the club.
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Don't understand why Billy Mercer had to go also
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Impact on pitch is what’s neededBlakesboots wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:50 amIf the owners are looking for a impact signing and want to be innovate and progress their commercial side; Emma Hayes would be a great choice. It wouldn’t be popular with the fan base, but I think she would be a fantastic manager for the club.
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Bilic is a good choice. He has been around the blocks and was pretty good at West Ham.
Anyone but Big Sam and Rooney
Anyone but Big Sam and Rooney
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In your opinion, anyway.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:05 pmNigel Pearson is probably one of the most ridiculous suggestions so far.
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Rooney comment on Burnley.
It is a compliment to me and the staff when you are getting linked with Premier League clubs," he said. "I was surprised Sean Dyche had been sacked. He did a good job.
“I have seen various articles that I have been linked. What is important is keeping this club in the division. Long-term, my future is linked to the takeover being completed."
It is a compliment to me and the staff when you are getting linked with Premier League clubs," he said. "I was surprised Sean Dyche had been sacked. He did a good job.
“I have seen various articles that I have been linked. What is important is keeping this club in the division. Long-term, my future is linked to the takeover being completed."
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You’d very likely get it with Emma. She’s an outstanding manager and tactician. She’s been in and around the mens game learning.
She’s a great coach already.
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Wilder on Burnley
When asked after Boro's goalless draw at Bournemouth, Wilder said: “I’ve not looked at it. Sean is a pal of mine. I think he’ll understand it in terms of how the industry is and there has obviously been a decision made. I’m not going to come out with anything in terms of this, that or the other. My head is down and I’m thinking, ‘onto Monday’.
"What I will say is that I think, without giving an opinion on the decision, he has done an incredible job there and I think it goes completely under the radar the job he does in terms of what goes on and the challenges he’s had at that football club. I think when people look back it, he’s been an incredible manager in the Premier League for a number of years.
When asked after Boro's goalless draw at Bournemouth, Wilder said: “I’ve not looked at it. Sean is a pal of mine. I think he’ll understand it in terms of how the industry is and there has obviously been a decision made. I’m not going to come out with anything in terms of this, that or the other. My head is down and I’m thinking, ‘onto Monday’.
"What I will say is that I think, without giving an opinion on the decision, he has done an incredible job there and I think it goes completely under the radar the job he does in terms of what goes on and the challenges he’s had at that football club. I think when people look back it, he’s been an incredible manager in the Premier League for a number of years.
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Now isn't the time to be experimenting.Blakesboots wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:43 amYou’d very likely get it with Emma. She’s an outstanding manager and tactician. She’s been in and around the mens game learning.
She’s a great coach already.
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agreenwood wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:25 amI think you’re probably right to say there’s a larger % chance ending up worse, although I’d suggest two things. Firstly, I’m not sure we need to aim for an improvement on Dyche’s overall record. We’d probably be happy with marginally worse than his first 8 years. Statistically it’d probably be difficult not to improve on the win % of the past 18 months. Secondly, the odds are probably stacked firmly against him replicating what’s gone before in the next 2-3 years. For anyone in the same role for 10+ years, it’s hard to keep things fresh. I don’t think the Dyche we’re replacing now is necessarily the version/standard it would have been if you were doing it a few years ago.
So, if you’re asking if we are likely get better than Dyche at his peak, the answer is firmly no. That’s not what we’re replacing now though in my view.
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MACCA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:55 pmLiterally anyone
We have played bottom of the league twice ( who average 2 goals against per game) and have not had a shot never mind scored
We have been abysmal from front to back ALL game.
What an absolute dinosaur.
Dress it up all you want, when Burnley have a big game and need to deliver, he fails.
Doesn't cost anything or need skill to be able to pass the ball 20 yards.
Owen Coyle then?
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Ex Claret David Unsworth perhaps. Handed his notice in this last week at Everton. Been doing a great job with their second string apparently. 28/1
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On 12 April 2022, Unsworth left Everton in order to pursue his ambition of becoming a first-team manager, he handed in his notice 3 days before Dyche was sackedDodobdobodobo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:13 pmEx Claret David Unsworth perhaps. Handed his notice in this last week at Everton. Been doing a great job with their second string apparently. 28/1
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Interesting that he doesn’t say ‘not interested’.Gaia wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:55 amWilder on Burnley
When asked after Boro's goalless draw at Bournemouth, Wilder said: “I’ve not looked at it. Sean is a pal of mine. I think he’ll understand it in terms of how the industry is and there has obviously been a decision made. I’m not going to come out with anything in terms of this, that or the other. My head is down and I’m thinking, ‘onto Monday’.
"What I will say is that I think, without giving an opinion on the decision, he has done an incredible job there and I think it goes completely under the radar the job he does in terms of what goes on and the challenges he’s had at that football club. I think when people look back it, he’s been an incredible manager in the Premier League for a number of years.
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He's now 8/1 with SkyDodobdobodobo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:13 pmEx Claret David Unsworth perhaps. Handed his notice in this last week at Everton. Been doing a great job with their second string apparently. 28/1
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Yes. *raises eyebrow*
I'd welcome Wilder or Bilic (I think he was a bit unfairly treated at West Ham. Both know the Championship and Premier league and both have played some decent stuff at their clubs but stayed grounded (if you see what I mean)
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Thisdandeclaret wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:16 amOne achieved 7 seasons in the premier league, 2 promotions from the championship including a league win, a European qualification and transformed the club from top to bottom, pretty much constantly delivering results way in advance of resources available.
The other had the club bobbing about in the bottom half of the division below, winning nothing and pretty much constantly delivering results below the resources available. His biggest achievement was installing a new bridge at Gawthorpe.
Some fans will tell you that their football is the same. Those fans are only assessing the aesthetics of certain parts of the game, and missing huge differences in what they actually set teams up to achieve.
Cotterill bored the pants of me in a way that Dycheball never has. That takes some doing.
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It’s not always the case, but usually you wouldn’t leave a job to pursue a another job, you’d search whilst in post and then leave on the back of being offered a position.
It suggests to me that there might be more to his departure - either he has something lined up (hopefully not us) or he’s been pushed.
The last thing I think we need is to be the test case for someone who fancies a crack at being a manager.
Has he actually done that good a job at Everton - I’m sure someone mentioned that there were some dissenting voices about the lack of progress with their u23’s.
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Think it’s a coincidence he left Everton last week. We obviously don’t have anyone lined up and the sacking came out of the blue for whatever has happened behind the scenes this week.
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A 'Name the Next Manager' competition?
Hmmm.....
I bet Pace wins this.
Hmmm.....
I bet Pace wins this.
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Hopefully not the Man Utd assistant manager who’s entered the betting markets
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Getting rid of Dyche for someone like David unsworth makes absolutely zero sense.
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Until the end of the season? Neil Warnock
Now where’s that emoji of a tin hat gone…?
Now where’s that emoji of a tin hat gone…?