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Re: Name the next manager
I don’t think Page will leave Wales.Roosterbooster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:52 pmAs an interim possibly.
But I can see what he'd add above the current interim team.
And he doesn't have any stand out club credentials to considered long term
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There are lots of managers who want to take the job as interim, but then want a contract based on keeping us in the premier league.
The club do not want to be stuck with that deal. There will be a number of managers/coaches available on the summer. Which ever division we’re in will support the choices we make.
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Are you saying the club are wanting to appoint a new manager in the summer and it wouldn't necessarily be given to the interim manager, even if they kept us up?Blakesboots wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:26 amThere are lots of managers who want to take the job as interim, but then want a contract based on keeping us in the premier league.
The club do not want to be stuck with that deal. There will be a number of managers/coaches available on the summer. Which ever division we’re in will support the choices we make.
Does that suggest we have somebody in mind to take over in the summer who isn't currently available.
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what about Lee Bowyer isn't happy at Birmingham and I think could do a decent job regardless of which league we're in.
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Agreed. We've been in the Prem for 6 years. We can do better. A lot better.
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There's a young lad called Ian Cathro who is highly thought of, he's been an assistant to Nuno & Benitiz so knows his stuff. Could be an interesting interim manager.
He will probably resurface at some time with Nuno.
He will probably resurface at some time with Nuno.
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Making a panic appointment now would be the worst move possible. Just leave it till the summer and let's see where we are.
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No point making one now
And really no point making one till we know what division we are in
The "dead cat bounce" has given us a chance, and we will just see if the players and the scratch management team can keep it going
And really no point making one till we know what division we are in
The "dead cat bounce" has given us a chance, and we will just see if the players and the scratch management team can keep it going
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Re: Name the next manager
Mowbray could be a fair shout.
Good football on a limited budget. Has won promotion to the Prem, so knows what's needed. Probably be happy to get away from Deadwood where he's clearly not loved.
Knows the championship inside out.
Dyche already being touted for the Ewood gig.
Good football on a limited budget. Has won promotion to the Prem, so knows what's needed. Probably be happy to get away from Deadwood where he's clearly not loved.
Knows the championship inside out.
Dyche already being touted for the Ewood gig.
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When he says we are interested in someone - how does anyone know whether he is right, or wrong?
Being interested in someone doesn't say it would materialise into anything. I bet we are interested in a number of managers at the moment. We can't have them all and I'm sure that the interest is more about interviewing at this stage than saying that have decided that they are the one.
Also - that person needs to be interested back and there has to be a number of other variables that need to happen for it to progress beyond the 'interested' stage.
Saying he is wrong most of the time is as bad as saying he is right most of the time.
He rarely says anything concrete from what I read. He gives us all something to debate though I guess .
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Good football? Ask Rovers fans about his football. They can’t wait for him to leave in the summer. Imagine swapping Dyche for Mowbray, wow that would be horrendous.fatboy47 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:10 amMowbray could be a fair shout.
Good football on a limited budget. Has won promotion to the Prem, so knows what's needed. Probably be happy to get away from Deadwood where he's clearly not loved.
Knows the championship inside out.
Dyche already being touted for the Ewood gig.
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No I don't see him jumping ship yet, especially in a WC year.
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Also a good example to reflect on all those fans who are looking for managers with experience of getting out of the championship should we go down.
Just because a manager has done it previously - doesn't mean they have a secret formula to do it again.
Yes, there will be certain advantages and benefits - i.e. a manager knowing how to keep a performing team motivated to keep performing and dealing with the pressures etc. but there are no guarantees that a successful championship manager can take any team and get them promoted.
Mowbray was doing brilliantly for Rovers where many clarets were worried about us going down and them going up. He just hasn't become a bad manager but he clearly hasn't found that formula of keeping that momentum at the key point of the season with that team.
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There are journalists who post on twitter when the information is 100% accurate, and there are journalists who post on twitter to get people to click on their articles (and I see he's now got a patreon account)clarethomer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:14 amWhen he says we are interested in someone - how does anyone know whether he is right, or wrong?
Being interested in someone doesn't say it would materialise into anything. I bet we are interested in a number of managers at the moment. We can't have them all and I'm sure that the interest is more about interviewing at this stage than saying that have decided that they are the one.
Also - that person needs to be interested back and there has to be a number of other variables that need to happen for it to progress beyond the 'interested' stage.
Saying he is wrong most of the time is as bad as saying he is right most of the time.
He rarely says anything concrete from what I read. He gives us all something to debate though I guess .
Nixon is the latter group, and though he is entertaining (his stuff on Partick Thistle memories is good and his frustration at the EFL over Derby was great, if massively biased), he's not the source that a lot on here think he is
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Good grief no he bombed at Hearts when given the gig as the main man, possibly a decent number 2, but clearly out of his depth as a manager.Nonayforever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:06 amThere's a young lad called Ian Cathro who is highly thought of, he's been an assistant to Nuno & Benitiz so knows his stuff. Could be an interesting interim manager.
He will probably resurface at some time with Nuno.
And yes he'll likely go where Nuno goes.
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A lot of the names above like Mowbray, Bowyer and Neil have a very Brian Laws feel about them!
As someone posted above we have been a Premier League Club for 6 years so we should be able to aim a bit higher.
As someone posted above we have been a Premier League Club for 6 years so we should be able to aim a bit higher.
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Agreed, now he's on patreon, he's no more than a clickbait merchant.Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:27 amThere are journalists who post on twitter when the information is 100% accurate, and there are journalists who post on twitter to get people to click on their articles (and I see he's now got a patreon account)
Nixon is the latter group, and though he is entertaining (his stuff on Partick Thistle memories is good and his frustration at the EFL over Derby was great, if massively biased), he's not the source that a lot on here think he is
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A lot of people hang on Nixons word because he was always on the ball and accurate with us when Coyle was here. No surprise that he is big pals with Coyle where he was getting his info From.claretandy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:47 amAgreed, now he's on patreon, he's no more than a clickbait merchant.
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I've no idea if Nixon is right about Neil or not and don't particularly care right now but the idea he's another Brian Laws, or in the same bracket as Bowyer, is for the birds. He did a very good job at Preston in very challenging circumstances and has started well at Sunderland, and that's to say nothing of the fact he's already got promoted from the Championship. And he's only 41. He's got a credible CV at similar clubs and is up and coming. He may not capture the imagination but the object of the exercise is not to titilate, its to appoint someone competent who can build on what Dyche has achieved. For that reason whilst there may be other good candidates, I certainly wouldn't dismiss Neil.
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A decent championship candidate.claretspice wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:07 pmI've no idea if Nixon is right about Neil or not and don't particularly care right now but the idea he's another Brian Laws, or in the same bracket as Bowyer, is for the birds. He did a very good job at Preston in very challenging circumstances and has started well at Sunderland, and that's to say nothing of the fact he's already got promoted from the Championship. And he's only 41. He's got a credible CV at similar clubs and is up and coming. He may not capture the imagination but the object of the exercise is not to titilate, its to appoint someone competent who can build on what Dyche has achieved. For that reason whilst there may be other good candidates, I certainly wouldn't dismiss Neil.
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Looking at the responses to names on here, you can’t help but feel there’s going to be an outpouring of disappointment when the new name is finally announced.
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Yepdandeclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:15 pmLooking at the responses to names on here, you can’t help but feel there’s going to be an outpouring of disappointment when the new name is finally announced.
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Apologies. I mixed up a notification from OneFootball with The Athletic app on my phone. It was a OneFootball link:
https://onefootball.com/en/news/burnley ... T06:50:53Z
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Yes he did bomb at Hearts, probably because he didn't have an expirenced number 2, and was possibly a bit to technical.
Couple his technical expertise with Ben Mees practical experience and relationship with the players, it could be a good combination.
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So an article just parroting Nixon's clickbait piece.Steddyman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:30 pmApologies. I mixed up a notification from OneFootball with The Athletic app on my phone. It was a OneFootball link:
https://onefootball.com/en/news/burnley ... T06:50:53Z
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This thing about Nixon - if this site are now out of the loop on what is going on in the club, it it logical that reporters are too.
Jones at The Athletic seems connected still, Gaughan at the Mail the same. Nixon unlikely.
Dyche gone, his staff gone. Whoever Nixon's source was is unlikely to be here.
Jones at The Athletic seems connected still, Gaughan at the Mail the same. Nixon unlikely.
Dyche gone, his staff gone. Whoever Nixon's source was is unlikely to be here.
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Neil is one of Nixon's boys, it makes sense to link him to the job, he might get an improved contract out of Sunderland from it.CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:52 pmThis thing about Nixon - if this site are now out of the loop on what is going on in the club, it it logical that reporters are too.
Jones at The Athletic seems connected still, Gaughan at the Mail the same. Nixon unlikely.
Dyche gone, his staff gone. Whoever Nixon's source was is unlikely to be here.
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From what people have posted on here and our new exciting style of play I would think knutsen fits the bill in terms of continuity in the summer if we stop up, wonder if he will be persuaded to come over.
Right pedigree and successful in European competition relatively, could also find some bargains from his league.
Right pedigree and successful in European competition relatively, could also find some bargains from his league.
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This could go either way. Gets the job full-time or binned. I can’t see them binning him so the link to us has probably forced their hand.
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???Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:13 pmThis could go either way. Gets the job full-time or binned. I can’t see them binning him so the link to us has probably forced their hand.
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Rafa Benitez would be perfect for us next season and no compo to pay.
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I don't think Rafa is what we need
You can file him under Wilder/BFS/Bruce for me
You can file him under Wilder/BFS/Bruce for me
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He won’t get the job full-time unless Giggs is proven guiltyTricky Trevor wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:13 pmThis could go either way. Gets the job full-time or binned. I can’t see them binning him so the link to us has probably forced their hand.
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Rafa Benitez would be perfect for us next season and no compo to pay.
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I did wonder subject to Giggs being found not guilty if he could be one of the next generations of up and coming Managers that might do a job for us.
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We're doing just fine as it is.....leave it alone.
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Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:51 pmFrom what people have posted on here and our new exciting style of play I would think knutsen fits the bill in terms of continuity in the summer if we stop up, wonder if he will be persuaded to come over.
Right pedigree and successful in European competition relatively, could also find some bargains from his league.
Alan Pace will have seen enough in the last three games and enjoyed seeing how buoyant the players have been to know the type of manager or coach he wants and maybe just as important, that he doesn't want.
I think Knutsen ticks a lot of boxes and I'm hoping he just wants to wait and see what division we'll be competing in next season before committing.
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Whomever it is, I just hope AP is still searching for 2 candidates for either option, such that when we know our fate 100% he can make an announcement and bring in as soon as the season is finished. I would hate to see this dragging on through June let alone July.
He should be having his shortlist for both eventualities before mid May with some form of "agreement" including job description/power, goals for the next season and salary/bonus understood by both parties.
He should be having his shortlist for both eventualities before mid May with some form of "agreement" including job description/power, goals for the next season and salary/bonus understood by both parties.
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Yeah agree. A big factor at play is all the OOC players. A new manager might want an input into who they offer a new contract too. Plus the fact the new man needs to work with Pace and the recruitment team to identify targets for his style of play / system.KateR wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:36 pmWhomever it is, I just hope AP is still searching for 2 candidates for either option, such that when we know our fate 100% he can make an announcement and bring in as soon as the season is finished. I would hate to see this dragging on through June let alone July.
He should be having his shortlist for both eventualities before mid May with some form of "agreement" including job description/power, goals for the next season and salary/bonus understood by both parties.
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absolutely agree and all part and parcel of why AP can't afford to be relaxing now, those are two big factors that dovetail with my thoughts and rationale for my post. Hopefully we all know who, and he's in place starting working work before end of May.
Then of course we can have the usual 1,000 page thread regarding who we recruit for which position
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A friend of mine, who is a Liverpool fan, is convinced that Rafael Benitez will be coming to complete his job with sinking Everton.
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A friend of mine, who is a Liverpool fan, is convinced that Rafael Benitez will be coming to complete his job with sinking Everton.
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If and by all accounts we are going down the DOF route. Wouldn’t it just make sense for whoever that is to deal with the OOC players and make that appointment before the new manager.
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Now that Dyche has gone along with his stranglehold over the club, we may not need a DoF now.
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100% agree with this. I live in Preston and a lot of PNE fans thought it was a major error getting rid. As they're seeing now with a lesser manager, he produced great results on very limited resources. He's not a mind-blowing choice, but I think he'd be a decent and sensible one.claretspice wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:07 pmI've no idea if Nixon is right about Neil or not and don't particularly care right now but the idea he's another Brian Laws, or in the same bracket as Bowyer, is for the birds. He did a very good job at Preston in very challenging circumstances and has started well at Sunderland, and that's to say nothing of the fact he's already got promoted from the Championship. And he's only 41. He's got a credible CV at similar clubs and is up and coming. He may not capture the imagination but the object of the exercise is not to titilate, its to appoint someone competent who can build on what Dyche has achieved. For that reason whilst there may be other good candidates, I certainly wouldn't dismiss Neil.
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Well it depends. Let’s say, hypothetically, they go for Knutsen from Bodo Glimt. His system is 4–3-3 using inside forwards and 1 main striker. Therefore, would we need to try and renew all 3 OOC strikers? Probably not. Then the likes of Lennon, will he suit a high and wide winger role? Maybe back in his younger days but I’m not sure now. I’d much rather we recruit for a managers system than not.
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Right, so we needed one with Dyche, but we won't need one now?Nonayforever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:05 pmNow that Dyche has gone along with his stranglehold over the club, we may not need a DoF now.
You'll have to explain that one
If we go down the DoF route, then we need a coach, not a manager
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Wouldn't it make sense to get a manager who can adapt his system depending what players he has available? I know Dyche didn't do a lot of that except when he had Defour, but the best manager can get the best out of his players even if the aren't the ideal players he would have chosen.RVclaret wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:16 pmWell it depends. Let’s say, hypothetically, they go for Knutsen from Bodo Glimt. His system is 4–3-3 using inside forwards and 1 main striker. Therefore, would we need to try and renew all 3 OOC strikers? Probably not. Then the likes of Lennon, will he suit a high and wide winger role? Maybe back in his younger days but I’m not sure now. I’d much rather we recruit for a managers system than not.
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