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Vydra

Post by BOYSIE31 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:44 pm

Let's hope the new manager gives him a new deal

20+ goals in championship

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Re: Vydra

Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:46 pm

What you think he will sign one.
Now he is fit, accy Stanley would offer him more money.

We are skint.
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Re: Vydra

Post by tiger76 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:48 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:44 pm
Let's hope the new manager gives him a new deal

20+ goals in championship
Possibly but he's only netted over 20 once in his career, so in the unlikely event he does stay don't assume he'll suddenly start banging them in at Championship level.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Stayingup » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:03 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:44 pm
Let's hope the new manager gives him a new deal

20+ goals in championship
20 goals Vydra? Can we create 200 chances for him?

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Re: Vydra

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:04 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:03 pm
20 goals Vydra? Can we create 200 chances for him?
i shouldn't laugh at this...but :D

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Re: Vydra

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:32 pm

Honestly reckon double figures would be well within his reach in the Championship.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Blakesboots » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:57 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:46 pm
What you think he will sign one.
Now he is fit, accy Stanley would offer him more money.

We are skint.
How are we skint?

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Re: Vydra

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:59 am

Blakesboots wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:57 am
How are we skint?
We've no brass in reserve. All tied up in assets.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:00 pm

I reckon he'll be a real asset in a footballing side.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Blakesboots » Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:11 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:59 am
We've no brass in reserve. All tied up in assets.
As is the norm with wealth…

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Re: Vydra

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:13 pm

Maybe the new guy won’t stick him up front and smash balls up to his head being five foot nothing against six footers that would be a start!

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Re: Vydra

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:29 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:57 am
How are we skint?
Which bit of millions in debt are you struggling with?

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Re: Vydra

Post by Blakesboots » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:31 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:29 pm
Which bit of millions in debt are you struggling with?
Cheery as ever.

Debt isn’t always a bad thing.

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Re: Vydra

Post by taio » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:32 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:31 pm
Cheery as ever.

Debt isn’t always a bad thing.
How is it not a bad thing in our situation?

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Re: Vydra

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:39 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:31 pm
Cheery as ever.

Debt isn’t always a bad thing.
Ask a Bury fan what they think.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Blakesboots » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:56 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:39 pm
Ask a Bury fan what they think.
How has that got anything to do with us?

Christ on a bike but some of you are so focused on the negative side of life. Your wife/husband must’ve been happy they chose you.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Blakesboots » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:58 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:32 pm
How is it not a bad thing in our situation?
Ask Chester, he’s clearly explained the whole deal. We will know a lot more in two weeks time.

We’re not a badly run club. Dyche made his own bed with this situation. Woan made his own bed and has to deal with that.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Blakesboots » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:59 pm

The owners took the only option that was available to them. I’m doing so they’ve shown good positive management and have BFC at the fore of their thinking.

When the stories come out, you’ll be siding with the board not brand DYCHE

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Re: Vydra

Post by taio » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:00 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:58 pm
Ask Chester, he’s clearly explained the whole deal. We will know a lot more in two weeks time.

We’re not a badly run club. Dyche made his own bed with this situation. Woan made his own bed and has to deal with that.
Sorry but none of that explains how debt isn't a bad thing in our situation.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Blakesboots » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:04 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:00 pm
Sorry but none of that explains how debt isn't a bad thing in our situation.
Why would I repeat something that’s been discussed, at length for the last 18 months. If you’ve not grasped it yet then I don’t have the skills nor ability to add anything that you can’t find already mentioned on the various financial threads.

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Re: Vydra

Post by taio » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:06 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:04 pm
Why would I repeat something that’s been discussed, at length for the last 18 months. If you’ve not grasped it yet then I don’t have the skills nor ability to add anything that you can’t find already mentioned on the various financial threads.
Likewise when you ask how are we skint.

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Re: Vydra

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:11 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:06 pm
Likewise when you ask how are we skint.
Debt is only useful if it is being used to grow the business. Paying £60 million to former owners leveraged on club assets is not good use of an asset.

And I say £60 million but its likely a lot more.
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Re: Vydra

Post by basil6345789 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:18 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:13 pm
Maybe the new guy won’t stick him up front and smash balls up to his head being five foot nothing against six footers that would be a start!
Vydra's but a tad short of 5'11"

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Re: Vydra

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:38 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:59 pm
The owners took the only option that was available to them. I’m doing so they’ve shown good positive management and have BFC at the fore of their thinking.

When the stories come out, you’ll be siding with the board not brand DYCHE
Joined yesterday.

Ignore.

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Re: Vydra

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:02 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:31 pm
Cheery as ever.

Debt isn’t always a bad thing.
That’s actually very true , but if ALK don’t make their 3rd payment ( they defaulted and rescheduled the 2nd) and let’s bear in mind they’ve not attracted anything like the investment they expected . The club ( if relegated ) reverts back to Garlick and we’d have zero cash and threadbare assets ( Pope/Cornet/)
Though if somehow we survive then I’m all in with Pace
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Re: Vydra

Post by Blakesboots » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:02 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:38 pm
Joined yesterday.

Ignore.
*Joined today

Feel free to ignore. There’s a long history of posters being ignored and vilified then turning out to have been barking up the correct tree.

As if being ‘time served’ adds weight and value to your opinion and thoughts on an internet message board 😂😂

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Re: Vydra

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:06 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:31 pm
Cheery as ever.

Debt isn’t always a bad thing.
It is ALWAYS worse than being not in debt.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Blakesboots » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:10 pm

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elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:06 pm
It is ALWAYS worse than being not in debt.
Not true. You can borrow at 2% but invest and see a 6% return. You’re now 4% up. Pretty standard practice.

People love to boast they’ve paid their mortgage off, but that’s dead(ish) money. Granted your house price will go up making you money. Yet if you released the equity and bought two terraced houses and rented them you pay your own mortgage and now have two further houses that appreciate along with your initial house.

Two simple examples of good debt.

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Re: Vydra

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:15 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:10 pm
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Not true. You can borrow at 2% but invest and see a 6% return. You’re now 4% up. Pretty standard practice.

People love to boast they’ve paid their mortgage off, but that’s dead(ish) money. Granted your house price will go up making you money. Yet if you released the equity and bought two terraced houses and rented them you pay your own mortgage and now have two further houses that appreciate along with your initial house.

Two simple examples of good debt.
Until the market crashes as it will inevitably at one point. The world economy is heading for a period not seen since the 1930’s a period of optimism, followed by mass suicide as speculators lost their shirts over night in the crash.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Blakesboots » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:18 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:15 pm
Until the market crashes as it will inevitably at one point. The world economy is heading for a period not seen since the 1930’s ( a period of optimism, followed by mass suicide as speculators lost their shirts over night in the crash.
I’d agree if you’re looking at the markets to make your money.

Invest in copper. It’s this generations gold.

In an island nation, the saying nowt as safe as houses is a fair statement.

10 year fixed rate mortgages are there for all to use; I’d rather pay 2.65% and know I’m the master of my own destiny than 1% and be bricking it monthly when the 7 BOE employees make their decisions.

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Re: Vydra

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:32 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:18 pm
I’d agree if you’re looking at the markets to make your money.

Invest in copper. It’s this generations gold.

In an island nation, the saying nowt as safe as houses is a fair statement.

10 year fixed rate mortgages are there for all to use; I’d rather pay 2.65% and know I’m the master of my own destiny than 1% and be bricking it monthly when the 7 BOE employees make their decisions.
All relative, you need to be able to afford to speculate - that means you are speculating from a position of advantage (for whatever reason), hence the phrase ‘speculate to accumulate’ - speculation/debt on the other hand is the enemy of those who do not have such an advantage as ‘expendable cash’.

Not having a go: I chose to take a mortgage hoaving been mortgage free - built up a business and was then subject to loses incurred as a result of (someone else’s freud)… the HSBC policy that was supposed to protect me, only meant there was no chance of me covering my mortgage -it caused a breakdown and I lost my house… THAT COULD NOT HAPPEN WITOUT THE DEBT

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Re: Vydra

Post by Blakesboots » Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:45 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:32 pm
All relative, you need to be able to afford to speculate - that means you are speculating from a position of advantage (for whatever reason), hence the phrase ‘speculate to accumulate’ - speculation/debt on the other hand is the enemy of those who do not have such an advantage as ‘expendable cash’.

Not having a go: I chose to take a mortgage hoaving been mortgage free - built up a business and was then subject to loses incurred as a result of (someone else’s freud)… the HSBC policy that was supposed to protect me, only meant there was no chance of me covering my mortgage -it caused a breakdown and I lost my house… THAT COULD NOT HAPPEN WITOUT THE DEBT
Sorry to hear that you got done over. People are cruel at times.

I agree it’s relative, so it can be looked at positively and negatively. Depends what you have for breakfast I suppose! Lots of people seem to have lemons on here!

Looking forward to the accounts being published, and more able people than I offering their opinions.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:36 am

AlargeClaret wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:02 pm
That’s actually very true , but if ALK don’t make their 3rd payment ( they defaulted and rescheduled the 2nd) and let’s bear in mind they’ve not attracted anything like the investment they expected . The club ( if relegated ) reverts back to Garlick and we’d have zero cash and threadbare assets ( Pope/Cornet/)
Though if somehow we survive then I’m all in with Pace
Have they paid the 2nd installment yet? It was common knowledge they deferred but haven't heard anything since.
The accounts might show but wondering if you knew for definite?

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Re: Vydra

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:51 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:36 am
Have they paid the 2nd installment yet? It was common knowledge they deferred but haven't heard anything since.
The accounts might show but wondering if you knew for definite?
I think the 2nd was re-sched for end of season
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