Burnley or Dyche?

[Shaggy]

It’s been quite interesting on here the past 24hours.

It would appear that there are people who support Dyche more than Burnley such is the emotional pain and outburst at the events.

Regardless what ever your view is, the mere fact that people are feeling this way shows that Dyche was allowed to become bigger than the club. That should never happen.

Hopefully the Dyche fans can all rally around the new manager whoever it may be and give him/her the same chance they afforded Dyche.

[Cleveleys_claret]

Appears a lot of Burnley fans suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. Become accepting of the constant tripe served to us that we should feel lucky to be where we are, there is only one person in the whole of the world who could keep us here, and that means we have to play poor football,

[tiger76]

The club existed long before Dyche, and it will exist long after Dyche, managers and players come and go, but for the fans it's a life-time commitment for better or worse.

The decision has now been taken, so now we all need to unite behind the new manager and hope they can turn our fortunes around pronto.

[taio]

Absolute drivel this suggestion that people support Dyche rather than the club.

[jedi_master]

People don’t support Dyche rather than the club, not a single person. A ridiculous, childish and pathetic comment.

I would not care less if Sean Dyche never gets another job in football and is now resigned to Gillette Soccer Saturday as long as Burnley are prospering frankly - and I love the bloke and wish to God we hadn’t made this preposterous decision.

People can, believe it or not, think a decision is insane whilst also being Burnley fans. I hope whoever comes in makes Sean Dyche’s achievements at our club look small fry, it’s just a highly unlikely thing to happen. Do not mistake people being outraged at the decision Pace has made, and the anger at how he gained control of our club, and the confusion around the removal of almost all experienced senior on and off field staff, and the sheer worry about our financial situation as anything other than love, affinity and devotion to Burnley FC.

[quoonbeatz]

I hope whoever comes in makes Sean Dyche’s achievements at our club look small fry, it’s just a highly unlikely thing to happen.

I think everyone would agree with that. Also worth saying that it's highly unlikely Dyche would make his past achievements look small fry either, had he stayed.

[Cleveleys_claret]

People don’t support Dyche rather than the club, not a single person. A ridiculous, childish and pathetic comment.

I would not care less if Sean Dyche never gets another job in football and is now resigned to Gillette Soccer Saturday as long as Burnley are prospering frankly - and I love the bloke and wish to God we hadn’t made this preposterous decision.

People can, believe it or not, think a decision is insane whilst also being Burnley fans. I hope whoever comes in makes Sean Dyche’s achievements at our club look small fry, it’s just a highly unlikely thing to happen. Do not mistake people being outraged at the decision Pace has made, and the anger at how he gained control of our club, and the confusion around the removal of almost all experienced senior on and off field staff, and the sheer worry about our financial situation as anything other than love, affinity and devotion to Burnley FC.

A certain reverand posted he hopes we lose 10-0 on Sunday because of Dyche's sacking, there have been similar one off comments on several threads, "not going again"

I think this is what its alluding to

[jedi_master]

I think everyone would agree with that. Also worth saying that it's highly unlikely Dyche would make his past achievements look small fry either, had he stayed.

We struck gold with him. If we manage to replace him with someone who plays ‘good football’ but achieves none of his on the pitch success (I.e, a promotion and stability at this level) I think, from what I’m reading, a lot of people would be happy with that. I find that strange, maybe it’s just me.

[Lancasterclaret]

It’s been quite interesting on here the past 24hours.

It would appear that there are people who support Dyche more than Burnley such is the emotional pain and outburst at the events.

Regardless what ever your view is, the mere fact that people are feeling this way shows that Dyche was allowed to become bigger than the club. That should never happen.

Hopefully the Dyche fans can all rally around the new manager whoever it may be and give him/her the same chance they afforded Dyche.

Grade A knob alert

[uptheclarets86]

not worth a bite lads, give your thumbs a breather lad you’re boring now..way to transparent, saxo.

[quoonbeatz]

We struck gold with him. If we manage to replace him with someone who plays ‘good football’ but achieves none of his on the pitch success (I.e, a promotion and stability at this level) I think, from what I’m reading, a lot of people would be happy with that. I find that strange, maybe it’s just me.

I doubt they will be happy, they'll be wanting to eat their cake as well as having it. Dyche is the best manager I've seen at Burnley, what he has achieved us ridiculous. This point was always likely to come though, the longer he was here, the closer it came. I'm very confident he wouldn't have been here to get us back up if he'd taken us down and probably not through our choice. It's a shame how it's ended but it has and its all about what happens next now.

[RVclaret]

A certain reverand posted he hopes we lose 10-0 on Sunday because of Dyche's sacking, there have been similar one off comments on several threads, "not going again"

I think this is what its alluding to

Is that for real? (The mentioned post) How pathetic can you get.

[Cleveleys_claret]

Yes its real, early on on the dyche sacked thread, Reverand Dave or something similar

[Elizabeth]

A certain reverand posted he hopes we lose 10-0 on Sunday because of Dyche's sacking, there have been similar one off comments on several threads, "not going again"

I think this is what its alluding to

If it’s one off comments then it should not be worth making an issue of it.

[DCWat]

If it’s one off comments then it should not be worth making an issue of it.

It was obviously a one off comment in the heat of an emotional moment.

[Cleveleys_claret]

Is that for real? (The mentioned post) How pathetic can you get.

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[DCWat]

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Give it a rest

[GodIsADeeJay81]

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You and the others like you are gonna ride that for as long as possible aren't you?

It's already tiresome.

[RVclaret]

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Oh he also suggested Pace is going to sell every single player at the club and just sign free transfers so not sure he has a clue whats going on

[Burnley1989]

Absolute drivel this suggestion that people support Dyche rather than the club.

100%, the guys been sat behind him keyboard with a hard on all weekend

[Cleveleys_claret]

You and the others like you are gonna ride that for as long as possible aren't you?

It's already tiresome.

Ride what?

I am just not buying into this "Burnley cant survive without Dyche" stance so many have

He said it didnt he? Or am I miss reading it?

Enough pull other users constantly for their words, why should he be any different with such pathetic statements and then weeks before saying Burnley fans against Dyche arent real supporters

[Burnley Ace]

A manager either moves to a better/bigger club or gets sacked!

[claretandbluesky]

We do have a tendency to go overboard re managers. Of course OC was the classic, from God to the devil.

I think many bought into SD the man, saw him as a good egg, and became a little blind to his failings.
Never understood the idolatry myself.

It appears however as if the players tired of his ways, perhaps understandably and wanted something different from the yearly grind.

Whether this results in a free fall or a renewed sense of purpose we are about to witness.

[Paul Waine]

I'm down in south east, only get to away games these days. I've been to: Southampton, 2-2; Chelsea, 1-1; Arsenal, 0-0; Brighton 0-3 (win, of course); Palace, 1-1; Brentford, 2-0. Apart from Brentford I wasn't seeing anything wrong with our performances.

Of course, I've also seen many other games on tv. There were some the results weren't good and the performances were "stale."

If Sean Dyche's team are down where we are, questions needed to be asked. If the view is some of the results can be improved by changing the manager, then I'm pretty sure Sean Dyche would be one of the first to say "let's change the manager."

There's no doubt the senior players, with the relegation clauses in the contracts, would support a change to give them a chance to finish the season better than bottom 3. Even if they are OOC at the end of the season, there will be a performance bonus for retaining Premier League.

Covid-19 has stopped me going to West Ham, tomorrow. I've got my tickets for Watford.

"The last one doesn't owe you the next one." Thanks for a great 10 years, Sean Dyche.

Come on you Clarets.

[ClaretTony]

It would appear that there are people who support Dyche more than Burnley such is the emotional pain and outburst at the events.

If you think that then you clearly have a complete misunderstanding of what people are posting.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

To be fair there have been some ridiculous and quite frankly embarrassing comments some made personally to Pace himself on Twitter.

[Targetman]

A certain reverand posted he hopes we lose 10-0 on Sunday because of Dyche's sacking, there have been similar one off comments on several threads, "not going again"

I think this is what its alluding to

"Not going again" has been quoted on this messageboard by people who wanted Dyche out for 12 months or so.

No Burnley fans love Dyche more than the club, that is indeed a very immature statement to make.

Many people on here are regularly highly critical of the club, the team or Sean Dyche and his staff.
Many of those people feel they have good reason for their critical comments and that is fair enough.

However one thing that does irritate is the shouting from some of those critics who don't even attend Burnley games. They have for whatever reason stopped going to Turf Moor, they view things from afar, sometimes on legitimate TV channels, but more often than not via the internet on illegal streams.

They feel that it's perfectly ok to watch these law-breaking streams but woe betide anyone at Burnley Football Club who might step out of line, they come down on them like a ton of bricks.

These "so called supporters" are more commonly known as 'armchair supporters', some of whom feel that they know much more about football tactics, finances and players than Premier League bosses do.

What possesses people, who have no interest in going to the games, to try to force their views on other people.
Why bother doing that?

I know that baffles a lot of posters on this site, I have spoken to people who no longer use this board because of it.

[claretandbluesky]

When people say they hope we lose 10-0 it does give that impression.

[Jakubclaret]

Burnley without a shadow day & night, I never quite understood the dyche partisans because at the end of the day the club existed well before dyche & well after, dyche was a bloody good manager but an employee of the club & handsomely rewarded it wasn't a charitable expedition that he was undertaking.

[Murger]

If you think that then you clearly have a complete misunderstanding of what people are posting.

Well when certain posters are wanting the players to go on strike, it's a fair assumption to make.

[Jakubclaret]

It's still very raw & hard for some people to grasp but in time people will get detached from the dyche stranglehold that engulfed the club.

[CoolClaret]

I think the little attention seeker actually means

‘Dyche or Pace’

With that sentiment I’m absolutely Dyche every day of the week and twice on Sundays

[Murger]

I think the little attention seeker actually means

‘Dyche or Pace’

With that sentiment I’m absolutely Dyche every day of the week and twice on Sundays

You've changed it to Dyche or Pace because Dyche or Burnley is too close to the bone.

[taio]

You've changed it to Dyche or Pace because Dyche or Burnley is too close to the bone.

No, because Burnley or Dyche is a stupid suggestion.

[Stayingup]

First and foremost I am a Burnley fan. I also have great admiration for what Sean Dyche has achieved at Burnley. He leaves with my good wishes. He leaves with the worst Burnley team in his tenure, though not really his fault and highlighted by the improvement in other teams in this league, mainly due to lashings of cash, which Dyche has never had. It will be interesting to see how he fares in his next job if it is at a club with some money.

[Claretforshaw]

It’s been quite interesting on here the past 24hours.

It would appear that there are people who support Dyche more than Burnley such is the emotional pain and outburst at the events.

Regardless what ever your view is, the mere fact that people are feeling this way shows that Dyche was allowed to become bigger than the club. That should never happen.

Hopefully the Dyche fans can all rally around the new manager whoever it may be and give him/her the same chance they afforded Dyche.

Just like they did with Brian Laws ?

[KRBFC]

This is all boring bickering, we're all Burnley fans not Dyche fans, Dyche was the greatest manager we've had (well in my lifetime), things went stale, results got worse and there was zero indication Dyche was the man to turn it around. Now we move onto the next manager.

[Shaggy]

Just like they did with Brian Laws ?

Brian laws never got a fair shake from the majority of Burnley fans. Yes we all know he was a pound shop purchase and not the right man for the job but he never done any worse than expected. We were competitive in the championship to a degree under him but the fan base never took so he was forced out. Howe results wise ( and performance ) was worse than Laws but he did put a good squad together which Dyche enormously benefitted From.

See. Someone mention Cotterill on here recently, if he was afforded the resources that Dyche has I’m certain he would have done a far better job, maninly because tactically he knows what he’s doing and in the transfer market there’s no comparison.

[RVclaret]

To be fair there have been some ridiculous and quite frankly embarrassing comments some made personally to Pace himself on Twitter.

Yep some of the abuse hurled at Pace on twitter has been absolutely pathetic and quite frankly disgusting.

[Murger]

Yep some of the abuse hurled at Pace on twitter has been absolutely pathetic and quite frankly disgusting.

What's even worse is the people who are defending it.

[RVclaret]

What's even worse is the people who are defending it.

It’s actually insane. It’s more than possible, if not probable, something has gone on behind the scenes which has pushed Pace into this decision. Then you get all the media and ex pros jumping on the bandwagon, acting like they care and have a clue about the club after spending the last years calling us Barnsley and wanting us out the league.

[Milltown1882]

The thing on this forum is we don’t always agree. People don’t like my opinions sometimes, I don’t like other people’s opinions sometimes. One thing that I have absolutely no doubt in my mind about though is that everyone wants the best for Burnley Football Club.

[Murger]

I've seen his religion being brought into it on a few occasions too. Since when has that been acceptable?

[BabylonClaret]

It’s been quite interesting on here the past 24hours.

It would appear that there are people who support Dyche more than Burnley such is the emotional pain and outburst at the events.

Regardless what ever your view is, the mere fact that people are feeling this way shows that Dyche was allowed to become bigger than the club. That should never happen.

Hopefully the Dyche fans can all rally around the new manager whoever it may be and give him/her the same chance they afforded Dyche.

That's the biggest pile of shite you've posted and you've posted some over the last 24 hours.

Just because people think he was the best option for us when balancing everything out doesn't mean we support Dyche over Burnley.

[Lancasterclaret]

So we are now at the "Brian Laws was forced out and its was all the fans fault" of the desire to be noticed on this message board

Outstanding

[BleedingClaret]

Never liked Dyche (Respected him at times)
Love Burnley Always
Still the wrong decision, IMO. to sack him at this time
5 to 10 games ago probably had an argument to
End of the season maybe but not for me
15 games into next season if not in and around the play offs then probably Yes
Now with no replacement lined up very poor

[Shaggy]

Grade A knob alert

Hi Lancaster, back with the ad hominem’s I see.

Surely someone with your self proclaimed intelligence should be able to come up with better than that. Pretty feeble effort.

Suppose I’ll have to give you the benefit of the doubt though as your EQ is obviously on the low side. Not been a good time for someone of your views recently has it. All we need now is a change of president in the US to trump everything and see you go into meltdown.

Enjoy your weekend

[Claretforshaw]

So we are now at the "Brian Laws was forced out and its was all the fans fault" of the desire to be noticed on this message board

Outstanding

“Desire to be noticed on this message board” ? From whom I wonder ? Are we not able to ask a simple question or make an observation ? Surely everyone is entitled to voice an opinion, being the purpose of a message board, without being “outstanding”

[Lancasterclaret]

Hi Lancaster, back with the ad hominem’s I see.

Surely someone with your self proclaimed intelligence should be able to come up with better than that. Pretty feeble effort.

Suppose I’ll have to give you the benefit of the doubt though as your EQ is obviously on the low side. Not been a good time for someone of your views recently has it. All we need now is a change of president in the US to trump everything and see you go into meltdown.

Enjoy your weekend

Well, shucks mate, I doubt I'll reach the saddo stage of reposting as someone else after getting a ban

Just what on earth is up with internet weirdos these days?

[Claretforever]

I hope the fans who are pro-Dyche can quickly put their emotions aside and get behind the club. The mention of Laws and 2010 above makes me shudder thinking how poisonous our fans became. The Turf was a horrible place for a period, and I’m sure was a big reason in us going down.