Lampard's penalty, whinge or realism?

[claret59]

It may have already been posted and I have missed it but if not I wonder what we make of Lampard's assertions over the penalty controversy in their game against Liverpool. I see that Lampard now has to answer an FA enquiry over his comments following the refusal by the referee to give his side a penalty or even to refer it to VAR. What interested me was his comment :"If this had been Mo Salah at the other end you get a penalty . I HAVE PLAYED IN TEAMS IN THE TOP HALF OF THE LEAGUE AND YOU GET THEM "
He is referring to arguable penalties and is this not what we have argued many a time on here that referees favour the so-called bigger clubs and are more likely to give them penalties whereas the smaller Pl clubs , like Burnley, miss out? Interesting that Lampard admits this, and now concedes it is wrong.

[Hibsclaret]

He thinks it’s wrong now it affects him. When he was getting dodgy pens for Chelsea it was fine though.

[bobinho]

It’s Gordon that should really be answering an FA charge, after openly stating he “went down” after feeling slight contact.

Having said that, Lampard has a point. One of em was a pen. The other was a booking for Gordon.

How come he hasn’t stated that Richarlison should’ve seen red and that they got away with one?

Football will never really change for the better because managers can’t/won’t be objective. Until that happens, until they call it reyt, nowt will happen because there is always the “sour grapes” argument which lessens their case significantly.

[Pickles]

He's been a wet lettuce since getting into management.

[IanMcL]

Whinge

[Vegas Claret]

it's great, pressure is on him

[Quickenthetempo]

It would have been given against Burnley.

[Mrpotatohead]

Lampard should be calling out Gordon for the blatant dive (I get he wouldnt do that). Whether it is right or wrong, I honestly think the ref would've given that second penalty had Gordon not dived for the first one. We can argue whether that is right or not, but I think his dive for the first placed doubt in the referees mind. Everton only had Gordon to blame.

[SouthLondonexile]

I think he is being greedy. I am still in shock that Everton were awarded two penalties against us in one game.
We’ve only been awarded one penalty all season, that has to be a consideration.

[martin_p]

It would have been given against Burnley.

It was given against Burnley.

[dsr]

I wouldn't have given the second penalty either. Gordon saw a defender coming and ran in front of him to block him, then threw himself down. You often see players get between the man and the ball as a form of legal obstruction, but you rarely see a free kick given against the obstructed man just for bumping.

Never mind what Gordon did. What did the defender do wrong? The prosecution alleges that by running towards the ball in a straight line, he committed a foul against the man who changed direction to deliberately run across him and slow down. I would disagree. If a defender is to commit a foul, it should be as a result of something he has done wrong, not as a result of "clever" play by a forward. If Gordon hadn't dived after the contact, would anyone even be thinking of a penalty? I doubt it. The whole principle of forwards being able to "earn" penalties by touching a defender and flinging themselves down, should be stamped out. (And yes, that includes both Everton's penalties at Turf Moor. I admit Lennon tapped the man's back leg, but was that really enough to make the forward's standing leg leave the ground? Of course not. He dived. Make it a rule that a penalty won't be given for a dive, even if there was contact.)

But as to the OP's question, whether he had a point or not, it was certainly a Lampard whinge.

[ClaretLoup]

Just read in the Daily Mail that Everton players have received six out of the twelve cards issued by refs for diving in the EPL this season.

[box_of_frogs]

A correct whinge and my heart bleeds.

[Commy]

They are not only whinging about Sunday but are going on about previous decisions losing them points. They are finding out what the 'lesser' teams have to put up with all the time and they don't like it. You would think it only happened to them.

[jtv]

Aren't such incidents automatically looked at by VAR? Does the ref need to ask for it to be reviewed?

[yosserhughes]

Must admit I thought the VAR looked at them automatically.

[Jamesy]

I think he is being greedy. I am still in shock that Everton were awarded two penalties against us in one game.
We’ve only been awarded one penalty all season, that has to be a consideration.

I was trying to forget that penalty where Max nearly hit the corner flag!

[bfcjg]

He has a real cry baby face.

[Ashingtonclaret46]

He has whinged on because the next time that one of his players goes down in the box the referee will be under pressure to treat his club 'fairly'
Gordon and Richarlisson have won a lot of decisions this season by going down after the slightest touch.
Sadly, this is the modern game and it won't get any better.

[Foshiznik]

The reputation of Anthony Gordon has worked against him and he only has himself to blame for it. Daniel James gets similar treatment for the same reasons.

However players like Grealish, Maddison and Salah get the opposite treatment but given the inconsistencies of refereeing in this country it should be surprising.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Although I deplore the legs doing a disappearing act at the slightest touch, the second one was a pen by modern interpretations. It can be both cheating and a pen. Shouldn’t be, but is.

However, Frank got away with one yet again. The pen wouldn’t have changed the game, so 2-1 would have resulted. However, Richdiveison should have been facing a ban which would have missed Chelsea, Leicester and possibly Watford. That may have been the twist needed from our point of view.

So I know he likes to whine, but really, he shouldn’t.

[SalisburyClaret]

A player known for diving from a club known for diving goes down in questionable circumstances. Hope the FA give him exactly that

[Billy Balfour]

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Fwank, take a good look at yourself and your shithousery before blaming others for your misfortune.

[Lancasterclaret]

If it results in Everton getting a dodgy penalty because the ref is thinking "Crikey, they have complained about it" then his complaint has worked

It really is as simple as that

[tiger76]

As others have already mentioned I'll wager the odds have increased on Everton being awarded a pen or pens in their upcoming games, as refs will feel duty bound to right their perceived wrong.

What this whinge from Lampard also shows is that he's really feeling the pressure at the bottom, welcome to the real world Frank.

[IanMcL]

Lampard should be calling out Gordon for the blatant dive (I get he wouldnt do that). Whether it is right or wrong, I honestly think the ref would've given that second penalty had Gordon not dived for the first one. We can argue whether that is right or not, but I think his dive for the first placed doubt in the referees mind. Everton only had Gordon to blame.

Yes. He created enough doubt in whatever subsequently happened. Serves him and them right.

[cbx750]

He should have got a penalty for this.
https://youtu.be/75XXyyoqy-o

[bfcjg]

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[Hipper]

Are Everton a little club these days? One of the founding five of the Premier league.

[dsr]

Are Everton a little club these days? One of the founding five of the Premier league.

Another good reason to dislike them.

[Bobzuruncle]

It may have already been posted and I have missed it but if not I wonder what we make of Lampard's assertions over the penalty controversy in their game against Liverpool. I see that Lampard now has to answer an FA enquiry over his comments following the refusal by the referee to give his side a penalty or even to refer it to VAR. What interested me was his comment :"If this had been Mo Salah at the other end you get a penalty . I HAVE PLAYED IN TEAMS IN THE TOP HALF OF THE LEAGUE AND YOU GET THEM "
He is referring to arguable penalties and is this not what we have argued many a time on here that referees favour the so-called bigger clubs and are more likely to give them penalties whereas the smaller Pl clubs , like Burnley, miss out? Interesting that Lampard admits this, and now concedes it is wrong.

If Lampard knows that teams in the top half get them given then why has he brought those tactics to a team in the bottom half ? and if that culture was already there then why didn’t he tell them it’s a waste of time ? maybe cos they still sometimes work ?

and I agree with the previous posters that his outburst is mind games for what’s left of his season/career

[Middle-agedClaret]

Whinge.