Richarlison flare thrower

[IanMcL]

What an idiot!

He should receive an immediate ban - just as all others have done for returning objects to the crowd. A flare is ridiculous.

Will the FA van swiftly? Probably not. Everton one of theirs.

This is the Everton official comment, which says a lot about them.

An Everton club spokesperson said: “We will look into the matter but, as far we are concerned, Richarlison was attempting to throw it out of the ground.”

Big ban now would be handy. They are already avoiding their points deduction.

[IanMcL]

[Quickenthetempo]

Why would a player get suspended for throwing a flare into his own fans in celebration.

It was stupid and the Premier league should probably get clubs educating their players about such dangers.

But what will suspending him achieve?

Or are you just looking for any advantage for Burnley?

[IanMcL]

Well if you don't understand the danger of throwing a lit flare, into a crowd of people, some probably not even looking, then I really can't help you.

[Devils_Advocate]

Not defending him cos he was a right idiot and could well get a ban but let at lest be honest about the facts and criticise him for what he did rather than for the exaggerated version.

- So it wasn't a flare, it was a smoke bomb (still doesnt excuse throwing it but its not as dangerous)

- He threw it over the small bit of the stand in the corner into an area under the scoreboard that isn't open to the public. (again he shoudn't be throwing it at all but where he actually threw it was about the best place he could have thrown it).

Like I said for a player to pick up anything of that nature and throw it back in the vicinity of the fans is not on but there is no need to make stuff up to have a go at him cos his actual actions were bad enough

[IanMcL]

Match-winner Richarlison 'should be banned' after throwing flare back into Everton crowd
Keith Hackett, former head of referees, says forward should have been sent off for his actions following winner against Chelsea.

Keith Hackett, the former head of English referees, believes the forward should have been sent off and deserves to be banned. “It was absolutely a red card, it comes under the banner of violent conduct,” he said. “I’d be surprised if the authorities didn’t take action.

“He should be banned. This is an action by a player that cannot be swept under the carpet.”

[longside72]

Its called Passion !!

[Devils_Advocate]

What if he threw the smoke bomb at Garlick, you'd have a right dilemma on your hands then

[Wokingclaret]

Its called Passion !!

Taking your shirt off after scoring is passion and you get booked for that.

He shouldn't be picking anything up like that and certainly not throwing it anywhere. Its a red card.

[taio]

Should definitely be punished.

[IanMcL]

What if he threw the smoke bomb at Garlick, you'd have a right dilemma on your hands then

Bit silly that DA.

[Devils_Advocate]

Bit silly that DA.

Its about your level then especially when it comes to certain subjects.

[IanMcL]

Not exactly looking where he is aiming! His teammate can't believe it!

[Quickenthetempo]

Well if you don't understand the danger of throwing a lit flare, into a crowd of people, some probably not even looking, then I really can't help you.

Of course I understand the danger, but I don't see how suspending him from playing will help.

He needs reminding of his responsibilities and education training.

And I don't need your help thanks Ian.

[Devils_Advocate]

Not exactly looking where he is aiming! His teammate can't believe it!

Ive seen it from different angles and runs towards the corner and lobs it over the stand. Its absolutely crazy cos if it slipped out his hand it could have been very dangerous but stick lets to the facts as it doesn't need you to make bits up

[Leisure]

Its called Passion !!

Really! Throwing a smoke bomb which could have hit someone in the crowd is passion!

[IanMcL]

Its about your level then especially when it comes to certain subjects.

Even sillier!

Calm down. No need between Clarets. Peace.

[dsr]

Really! Throwing a smoke bomb which could have hit someone in the crowd is passion!

Presumably. to some people, the passion involved would be an equally valid excuse for the thicko who threw it in the first place.

[longside72]

Did anyone get hurt ?

[taio]

Did anyone get hurt ?

Hardly the point

[dsr]

Did anyone get hurt ?

I'm not sure that's really the issue. The question for the FA/PL is, or should be, does throwing smoke bombs about in the crowd count as a serious offence that should be punished, or just a minor thing and won't be punished?

They may of course decide that it's OK for players to do it but not for fans.

I hope they ban him (two reasons - I can't stand the player, and it would disadvantage Everton) but they won't unless there is a media outcry.

[Billy Balfour]

Someone could have been blinded, but still, we mustn't allow a trivial thing like that to get in the way of 'passion'.

[FCBurnley]

Robbie Earle was full of praise for the Everton crowd throwing smoke bombs onto the pitch. He also praised the guy who kept the ball and stuffed it up his shirt. Said those acts were a sign of the passion that Everton will need to stay up. Well let’s hope they get points deducted and bans for failing to control their crowd. No chance of that happening of course because out of Leeds Everton and us we all know who the PL want relegating !! So Leeds and Everton fans can throw things on the pitch. Second offense this season for Leeds Following a Burnley player being hit by a bottle.

[elwaclaret]

Its called Passion !!

No, its called idiocy

[dsr]

Of course I understand the danger, but I don't see how suspending him from playing will help.

He needs reminding of his responsibilities and education training.

And I don't need your help thanks Ian.

That's an argument against all suspensions. If for example a Watford man had committed a bad foul on a Burnley player on Saturday, then it wouldn't help Burnley if he was suspended and the player could equally well argue that suspending him from playing won't help him learn.

Suspension would be a punishment. It might help this particular player learn not to do it again if he gets punished, and it might help other players in future decide not to do it if they see someone else get punished. (Who knows, he might even use the suspension period to do his education training.)

[longside72]

Maybe its the 3 points richalison won for everton that are hurting some people ., not heard any everton fans slaughtering him

[Blakesboots]

Robbie Earle was full of praise for the Everton crowd throwing smoke bombs onto the pitch. He also praised the guy who kept the ball and stuffed it up his shirt. Said those acts were a sign of the passion that Everton will need to stay up. Well let’s hope they get points deducted and bans for failing to control their crowd. No chance of that happening of course because out of Leeds Everton and us we all know who the PL want relegating !! So Leeds and Everton fans can throw things on the pitch. Second offense this season for Leeds Following a Burnley player being hit by a bottle.

I think he should be banned, and I think both Leeds and Everton should be fined for their lack of crowd control in the previous round of games.

But where is the evidence that the Premier League favour Everton/Leeds over Burnley? Let’s not let emotions get the better of the facts.

[Ilkley claret]

Jamie Carragher I think got a straight red for doing something similar at Arsenal.

I was surprised the ref didn’t send him off

[Dark Cloud]

You have to completely remove the fact that we're Burnley fans and Richarlson is a major player for a direct rival atm. Look at it objectively (which is what neutral Keith Hackett did tbf) and it's a serious offence and whether it's "passion" or not and whether anyone was injured or not, it's totally unacceptable and I'll be absolutely amazed if he gets away with it. (And I'd say exactly the same if one of our players did it)

[FCBurnley]

I think he should be banned, and I think both Leeds and Everton should be fined for their lack of crowd control in the previous round of games.

But where is the evidence that the Premier League favour Everton/Leeds over Burnley? Let’s not let emotions get the better of the facts.

The evidence will be in the action or lack of It taken by the PL against Everton and Leeds. Let’s see what they do.

[ClaretFelix]

Not defending him cos he was a right idiot and could well get a ban but let at lest be honest about the facts and criticise him for what he did rather than for the exaggerated version.

- So it wasn't a flare, it was a smoke bomb (still doesnt excuse throwing it but its not as dangerous)

- He threw it over the small bit of the stand in the corner into an area under the scoreboard that isn't open to the public. (again he shoudn't be throwing it at all but where he actually threw it was about the best place he could have thrown it).

Like I said for a player to pick up anything of that nature and throw it back in the vicinity of the fans is not on but there is no need to make stuff up to have a go at him cos his actual actions were bad enough

Correct, it was a smoke bomb, but still very dangerous.
I Dealt with a Barnsley fan that had been sitting in his seat at the end of the Blackpool game at Bloomfield road this season and was hit by one, literally hit him and bounced off, but was still hot enough to melt his shirt to his stomach.

[Vegas Claret]

the biggest problem here is if they don't ban him then they can't ban anyone in the future for lobbing one. All about precedent

[beddie]

All of this has already been discussed on the Everton v Chelsea thread, this was in order to save yet another thread and the same thing being discussed.

[bumba]

the biggest problem here is if they don't ban him then they can't ban anyone in the future for lobbing one. All about precedent

A fan throwing one on to the pitch could be banned for life.

He shouldn't play again this season but the FA dont have the balls to do that, just like the referee and the VAR didn't have the balls to send him off.

[CrosspoolClarets]

I posted on the other thread, the courts do not differentiate between fireworks and smoke bombs, someone bringing them into a ground can get 3 months. I’m not talking about a match ban either.

That’s why messing around with them in a football environment is against the law and a serious offence. If a fan had one land in front of him, picked it up and hurled it back, even into a fairly unused area (but over the heads of other fans) what do we think would happen? Big trouble with the law probably.

Richarlison did it in celebration not to remove a dangerous item.

It should be a 3 match ban.

[Paul Waine]

How The Times reported the blue smoke canister throwing by Richarlison.

Richarlison to face FA investigation for throwing flare into Goodison Park crowd

Paul Joyce, Northern Football Correspondent, Sunday May 01 2022, 7.00pm, The Times

Richarlison will be subject to an FA investigation after hurling a blue smoke canister off the Goodison Park pitch in the aftermath of his winning goal against Chelsea, which bolstered Everton’s hopes of Premier League survival.

Everton insisted that the Brazilian was tossing the pyrotechnic, which had landed on the playing surface after his crucial 46th-minute strike, through a gap in the corner of the stadium.

Club officials said that they will look into the incident, with the FA launching its own inquiry. Several flares were thrown from the crowd as Everton secured a 1-0 win to keep their battle to beat the drop in their own hands.

The team had been welcomed by thousands of supporters in the streets outside and a frenzied atmosphere was maintained as Frank Lampard’s side continued their good home form.

They remain in 18th position in the table — two points behind Leeds United and Burnley, who are on 34 points — but with one game in hand. They now face games away to Leicester City and Watford.

Lampard admitted that he had bluntly outlined the perilous nature of Everton’s predicament before the Chelsea match.

“It is clear what the table looks like,” he said. “My feeling was we needed an extra boost, an extra bit of attention, and to be fair the players delivered that.

“Driving up today and seeing the fans as we went through on the bus is special. It is special, it is not the norm. If it doesn’t give you goosebumps, if it doesn’t get you ready to go out and give everything, then there is something wrong with you. You shouldn’t be playing the game.

“They were the 12th man, they were the people of the match: the men, the women, the children that came and did that before, also in the warm-up, also at the start of the game, also to get us over the line late in the game.

“When the club comes together at Goodison that is amazing, and that is why results have been so good here. The negative is when we go away from home our players can’t replicate what we do here. That is the next challenge.”

[Blakesboots]

The evidence will be in the action or lack of It taken by the PL against Everton and Leeds. Let’s see what they do.

That’s some of the battle, I agree. But when have BFC been disproportionately punished in comparison to other teams in the premier league?

[bobinho]

Why would a player get suspended for throwing a flare into his own fans in celebration.

It was stupid and the Premier league should probably get clubs educating their players about such dangers.

But what will suspending him achieve?

Or are you just looking for any advantage for Burnley?

Why wouldn’t he be?

[superdimitri]

In an era where you get booked for removing your shirt, I'd say a ban for throwing a flare into the crowd is fitting.

[daveisaclaret]

I don't think there will be a bias towards Everton/Leeds over Burnley in any kind of decision like this. I do however, think they will be very reluctant to hand out any bans which would be massively controversial at this stage of a relegation battle to any club. It's not a very good way to run a league but it's not because we're Burnley.

The people who throw them on should be banned for life, btw. Proper wrong un behaviour.

[2 Bee Holed]

Did anyone get hurt ?

Oh dear.

I drove home half ****** last night off 4 pints.

Did anyone get hurt? No.

So what's the problem?

[ClaretTony]

Richarlison shouldn't have been playing; should have been starting a three match ban for the kick at Jordan Henderson last week.

[bfcjg]

Regardless of the circumstances affecting relegation he has broken FA rules, he'll end up with a fine though as if he gets a ban the FA will never hear the end of it as per their complaints over not getting penalties.

[Zlatan]

Richarlison shouldn't have been playing; should have been starting a three match ban for the kick at Jordan Henderson last week.

In all honesty I thought he had genuinely died from the head injury he got from the football glancing his head…

[Burnley1989]

I posted on the other thread, the courts do not differentiate between fireworks and smoke bombs, someone bringing them into a ground can get 3 months. I’m not talking about a match ban either.

That’s why messing around with them in a football environment is against the law and a serious offence. If a fan had one land in front of him, picked it up and hurled it back, even into a fairly unused area (but over the heads of other fans) what do we think would happen? Big trouble with the law probably.

Richarlison did it in celebration not to remove a dangerous item.

It should be a 3 match ban.

My mate can’t work in schools for trying to take one into a ground about 12 years ago when he was 18 and stupid. It’s seen as firearms

[boatshed bill]

I agree that if the FA or EPL do nothing they set a very difficult precedent.
However I don't see Richarlison getting banned this season. Perhaps the start of next season though.

[basil6345789]

Its called Passion !!

No it's called big time Charlie showboating.

[Chester Perry]

from the Telegraph - circumventing the paywall

Premier League clubs to receive safety guidance on cracking down on flares after surge in usage
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[Spike]

Clubs get fined £40k for their fans throwing a flare
If it’s at an away ground the home team get same fine for allowing it in their ground

[NL Claret]

Everton might want to start using their sniffer dogs for flares / drugs for home fans. Got a good search at Goodison this season for having some dog treats in my pocket.