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Re: 1st team physio

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 11, 2022 10:07 am

bobinho wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 7:16 am
That’s called “headhunting” isn’t it?

Research is carried out, individuals identified and approached, interviews conducted, appointments made.

Some of the most successful global companies operate this way.
It is when it's getting someone experienced into a role - not sure how that fits in with some of the recent BFC appointments.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed May 11, 2022 10:07 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue May 10, 2022 10:40 am
You actually think people at that level in this profession, will be keeping an eye out on Twitter?
Back in the day you wanted to speak to somebody you knocked on their door it was that simple & effective.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by ALP » Wed May 11, 2022 11:17 am

Social media is a powerful platform to use to get the right people applying, the people who are being targeted may not see the advert but those who know them do and pass on the information.

I had recent experience of this when I was tagged to a job with the club. I had a very positive engagement with both HR and the interview process, albeit I didn't get the job it was still very positive from all aspects and one I believe the club has got right.
This user liked this post: Blakesboots

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Mattster » Wed May 11, 2022 11:30 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 8:17 am
Ok but where on that link does it show other PL clubs advertising for first team staff? like a physio?
https://twitter.com/JobsInFootball/stat ... 4097788930

Which is also just on their website...

https://tottenhamhotspur.ciphr-irecruit ... _list.aspx

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Mattster » Wed May 11, 2022 11:42 am

Genuinely surprised people think it's strange for a football club to advertise roles with their first team online.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by warksclaret » Wed May 11, 2022 12:27 pm

Some strange debates on here about the suitability of TWITTER for recruitment. What worries me most is that we obviously need a first team physio , and with all the disruption in the club let a very experienced one go with 8 games to play, who they could have let go in 2 weeks time. At that point I suggest more become available. Unless of course Beattie did something wrong that led to his dismissal

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Enola Gay » Wed May 11, 2022 12:29 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue May 10, 2022 3:30 pm
This thread is in the realm of trying to think of things to poke the new owners with.

We don’t really know why they got rid of the old staff. We definitely don’t know the best way to replace them. It is just speculating.

I do think it is fair to say that compared to MLS the PL is a massive learning curve and some of these issues, sports science at such an elite level of physical exertion being one, will be hard for them to make the right calls without lots of advice. Not sure we are the ones to provide it though.
Bingo.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Loyalclaret » Wed May 11, 2022 12:55 pm

It would be weird if Twitter was not part of a recruitment strategy.

Alongside LinkedIn, Twitter is the platform used by professionals for social and work related content.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed May 11, 2022 1:08 pm

It's an area I feel we've needed to strengthen in for a while now

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Blakesboots » Wed May 11, 2022 2:04 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 10:07 am
Back in the day you wanted to speak to somebody you knocked on their door it was that simple & effective.
We use virtual knocks now

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Blakesboots » Wed May 11, 2022 2:05 pm

ALP wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 11:17 am
Social media is a powerful platform to use to get the right people applying, the people who are being targeted may not see the advert but those who know them do and pass on the information.

I had recent experience of this when I was tagged to a job with the club. I had a very positive engagement with both HR and the interview process, albeit I didn't get the job it was still very positive from all aspects and one I believe the club has got right.
This is great to hear!

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Blakesboots » Wed May 11, 2022 2:07 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue May 10, 2022 3:30 pm
This thread is in the realm of trying to think of things to poke the new owners with.

We don’t really know why they got rid of the old staff. We definitely don’t know the best way to replace them. It is just speculating.

I do think it is fair to say that compared to MLS the PL is a massive learning curve and some of these issues, sports science at such an elite level of physical exertion being one, will be hard for them to make the right calls without lots of advice. Not sure we are the ones to provide it though.
You could make the same argument for the American franchise sports. They’re steps ahead of the Premier League. The collegiate system is ahead of the academies…

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by elwaclaret » Wed May 11, 2022 2:13 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 2:07 pm
You could make the same argument for the American franchise sports. They’re steps ahead of the Premier League. The collegiate system is ahead of the academies…
Different system, you hit the nail on the head franchises, look at the number of clubs that have dropped their fans and their communities chasing the money. Milton K Dons are hated for very good reason. Association football is not comparable to the American franchise system, take away the community from football you are left with an empty shell. MKD should be a major force with their catchment area… that they aren’t is due to the fact they have no history or soul, their populace no history with the club.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed May 11, 2022 2:39 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 2:04 pm
We use virtual knocks now
Yes & chatbots I think some of us have lost the ability to interact face to face.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Blakesboots » Wed May 11, 2022 4:24 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 2:13 pm
Different system, you hit the nail on the head franchises, look at the number of clubs that have dropped their fans and their communities chasing the money. Milton K Dons are hated for very good reason. Association football is not comparable to the American franchise system, take away the community from football you are left with an empty shell. MKD should be a major force with their catchment area… that they aren’t is due to the fact they have no history or soul, their populace no history with the club.
I agree, I am making reference to the supporting systems of the football club. Sports science, contracts, player welfare, and so on. I feel the American model is better suited, and far in advance of our own systems.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Blakesboots » Wed May 11, 2022 4:25 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 2:39 pm
Yes & chatbots I think some of us have lost the ability to interact face to face.
Ironic considering the medium you’re using to highlight that point. Communication is changing, we’re changing with it.

I agree, face to face conversations are the gold standard.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by KRBFC » Wed May 11, 2022 4:40 pm

Jobs in football is not Spurs' official account tweeting out for a new first team physio

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by ALP » Wed May 11, 2022 5:09 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 2:05 pm
This is great to hear!
What, that I didn't get the job :lol:

In all seriousness though, if someone else fitted what the club wanted that's fine by me. I'm at the end of my 'real'' working days as I retired last year and although I have no idea who got the post, I really so wish them well in that job.

All I can say is all my dealings with the club were very positive and a very professional encounter.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed May 11, 2022 5:13 pm

Blakesboots wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 4:25 pm
Ironic considering the medium you’re using to highlight that point. Communication is changing, we’re changing with it.

I agree, face to face conversations are the gold standard.
It’s hilarious when some posters are opposed to social media such as twitter etc it’s likened to using beehole forum as a like for like comparison & hypocrisy is cited, global SM platforms dealing with millions & millions of users & a large hefty handful of Burnley fans are somewhere roundabout :lol: communication is changing because some people are becoming lazier, you want to talk to somebody get off your backside & go & knock on their door it’s not complicated it’s the old fashioned way of getting things done simple & effectively.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Rileybobs » Wed May 11, 2022 5:19 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 5:13 pm
It’s hilarious when some posters are opposed to social media such as twitter etc it’s likened to using beehole forum as a like for like comparison & hypocrisy is cited, global SM platforms dealing with millions & millions of users & a large hefty handful of Burnley fans are somewhere roundabout :lol: communication is changing because some people are becoming lazier, you want to talk to somebody get off your backside & go & knock on their door it’s not complicated it’s the old fashioned way of getting things done simple & effectively.
I wasn’t around in t’olden days, but I’m presuming that when an employer had a vacancy they wanted to advertise they didn’t go and knock on the door of every person of working age?

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed May 11, 2022 5:24 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 5:19 pm
I wasn’t around in t’olden days, but I’m presuming that when an employer had a vacancy they wanted to advertise they didn’t go and knock on the door of every person of working age?
Not directly to the employers door no but I’m assuming interviews will be held in a room with some sort of door attached, there’s nothing stopping some sort of notice being put out this is where you need to go if you are interested & come & knock on the door if I’m busy sit down & wait your turn.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Rileybobs » Wed May 11, 2022 5:26 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 5:24 pm
Not directly to the employers door no but I’m assuming interviews will be held in a room with some sort of door attached, there’s nothing stopping some sort of notice being put out this is where you need to go if you are interested & come & knock on the door if I’m busy sit down & wait your turn.
Don’t worry, I suspect the best candidates will be invited to an interview where they may have the opportunity to knock on a door.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed May 11, 2022 5:30 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 5:26 pm
Don’t worry, I suspect the best candidates will be invited to an interview where they may have the opportunity to knock on a door.
It’s just a method of doing things, if I want to speak to you I’ll knock on your door I wouldn’t even think of texting or any other method it’s plain & simple face to face.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Rileybobs » Wed May 11, 2022 6:01 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 5:30 pm
It’s just a method of doing things, if I want to speak to you I’ll knock on your door I wouldn’t even think of texting or any other method it’s plain & simple face to face.
Ah, so Burnley should be advertising job vacancies face to face, makes sense now.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed May 11, 2022 6:19 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 4:40 pm
Jobs in football is not Spurs' official account tweeting out for a new first team physio
Does it matter?
In the grand scheme of things does it really matter so much to people like you?

Is it any worse than the club becoming aware of the availability of Defour via a football forum?

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by RVclaret » Wed May 11, 2022 6:27 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 6:19 pm
Is it any worse than the club becoming aware of the availability of Defour via a football forum?
Is this a fact?

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by KRBFC » Wed May 11, 2022 6:44 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 6:19 pm
Does it matter?
In the grand scheme of things does it really matter so much to people like you?

Is it any worse than the club becoming aware of the availability of Defour via a football forum?
I don't care, I've just never seen another top professional club advertise important first team jobs via Twitter.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed May 11, 2022 6:51 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 6:44 pm
I don't care, I've just never seen another top professional club advertise important first team jobs via Twitter.
For someone who doesn't care you're doing a really poor job of showing it :lol:

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed May 11, 2022 9:50 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 6:01 pm
Ah, so Burnley should be advertising job vacancies face to face, makes sense now.
Advertising & interviewing the applicants aren’t methodically mutually inclusive.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Mattster » Thu May 12, 2022 11:01 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 4:40 pm
Jobs in football is not Spurs' official account tweeting out for a new first team physio
No, but it's a PL club advertising for first team staff. A physio, in fact. Which is what you asked for.

Via a football recruiter which advertises on Twitter.

And on their own website.

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Re: 1st team physio

Post by Leisure » Thu May 12, 2022 11:08 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 6:44 pm
I don't care, I've just never seen another top professional club advertise important first team jobs via Twitter.
Maybe we'll be setting a trend!

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