1st team physio

[Murger]

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What a bizarre way to advertise for a 1st team physio.

[Red Fox Rocks Socks]

Plenty of overtime available I’d expect with that job

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Why is it bizarre?

I did a search on twitter for physiotherapist Jobs and quite a few appeared, with places like the NHS advertising them and even Lincoln City FC just the other week, plus other places around the world.

Other industries also do the same.

It's perfectly normal to advertise on social media, maybe not to you, but it is to everyone else.

[Dark Cloud]

I'm surprised it doesn't include living in accommodation at Gawthorpe! You'll never be away!

[Murger]

Why is it bizarre?

I did a search on twitter for physiotherapist Jobs and quite a few appeared, with places like the NHS advertising them and even Lincoln City FC just the other week, plus other places around the world.

Other industries also do the same.

It's perfectly normal to advertise on social media, maybe not to you, but it is to everyone else.

So it's perfectly normal for a Premier League club to be advertising a key role on social media? I can't say I've ever seen another professional club do it.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

So it's perfectly normal for a Premier League club to be advertising a key role on social media? I can't say I've ever seen another professional club do it.

Professional club - I literally mentioned Lincoln City FC advertising on twitter for a physiotherapist.

Premier League club - couldn't tell you without checking each and every club who've been on twitter and in the PL.

Like I said, you find it weird/odd, but it's quite common in business to use Twitter and other social media platforms to advertise jobs, it reaches a wider range of people and some of those may be willing to relocate with the right renumeration package

Not everyone's going to stick an advert in the Burnley telegraph

[GodIsADeeJay81]

https://twitter.com/search?q=football%2 ... vxOLQ&s=09

Simple twitter search reveals lots of clubs advertising jobs.

There are also Twitter accounts dedicated to advertising vacancies within football/sports in general.

Then there will be accounts dedicated to advertising specific roles, including physiotherapy.

That's how social media works, it's really simple and perfectly normal to the rest of the world.

[daveisaclaret]

Quite strange to not have the incoming manager have at least some say in the decision. Then again from the outside it seems quite strange to sack the old physio because we weren't happy with the old manager.

I do think it looks smalltime but I've no idea if it will lead to a better quality of candidate to be fair.

[SalisburyClaret]

Fine to advertise on social media as long as it’s advertised in more professional ways elsewhere.
If this is the sum total of their advertising then it’s awful

[clansman]

They don’t just advertise on twitter it’s part of a much wider recruitment strategy and as God is a deejay says completely normal nowadays for firms to reference vacancies on social media.

[jedi_master]

It’s probably advertised in many places so I guess it’s just another option to them. It is a bit odd, and I doubt any Premier League capable physiotherapists are scouring Twitter of all places for their next job, but who knows.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Those who qualify will most likely already be aware of the former physio leaving.
They'll be keeping an eye out for the job being advertised in various places, Inc twitter.

[Tribesmen]

How many physio's would the club have at the moment ?

[randomclaret2]

Who is dealing with the huge number of injured first team and U23 players at present ?

[fidelcastro]

Who is dealing with the huge number of injured first team and U23 players at present ?

The medical team.

[ClaretTony]

Quite strange to not have the incoming manager have at least some say in the decision. Then again from the outside it seems quite strange to sack the old physio because we weren't happy with the old manager.

I don't believe the phyiso's departure had anything to do with Dyche and his team going.

I think it is quite bizarre advertising it this way but according to the club, Ally Beattie is still here although he's not. We have brought in a very experienced physio for now who has worked in the senior role at the very highest level of English football.

[ClaretTony]

Those who qualify will most likely already be aware of the former physio leaving.
They'll be keeping an eye out for the job being advertised in various places, Inc twitter.

You actually think people at that level in this profession, will be keeping an eye out on Twitter?

[Quickenthetempo]

Trying to get a Physio in who will work for less money. Either a Burnley fan or a Premier league footy fan.

[randomclaret2]

The medical team.

Do you know who exactly ?

[randomclaret2]

Do you know who exactly ?

Just seen Tony's post above

[dsr]

Why didn't they put "First team manager" on the list as well?

Any suitable candidates will have already been a football (or possibly other sport) club physio in a senior position, and will probably be head-hunted. There is no point putting out adverts for random applications like this.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

You actually think people at that level in this profession, will be keeping an eye out on Twitter?

I think professional people keep an eye out via various platforms for job opportunities, including twitter.
If that wasn't the case, businesses wouldn't advertise jobs on twitter.

[ClaretTony]

I think professional people keep an eye out via various platforms for job opportunities, including twitter.
If that wasn't the case, businesses wouldn't advertise jobs on twitter.

I bet they do

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I bet they do

You can bet whatever you like, but multinational businesses with a higher turnover than Burnley advertise higher paying jobs than club physio on twitter.
You don't have to like it, or even understand it, but it's a fact of life that it happens.

Some businesses even have twitter pages dedicated to promoting job vacancies and what it's like to do those jobs within those companies.

If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it.

[Paul Waine]

You actually think people at that level in this profession, will be keeping an eye out on Twitter?

Hi CT, give or take a few months or so, I think you and I are of a similar age. Back in 2008/09 my employer was running "cost reduction exercises," yes, making people redundant. Early 2010 it was my turn, employees in mid to late 50s are always more likely to be selected for redundancy. Employer's logic will include (without thinking of anyone's personal circumstances) that the older you are the closer you are to retirement, maybe you've "done learning?" maybe you can't keep up with new technology? maybe you are already thinking of retiring? maybe your family has grown up and redundancy at 50+ (I was 56) is not as bad as being made redundant at 40+ or any other age. No matter, it happens - even though age discrimination says it shouldn't.

Me, I believe keeping active is the best way to keep healthy and enjoy life. I wasn't done with working, though who wants to take on some who is already 56. I was advised to sign up on LinkedIn. I'd not used any social media before then. I'm not sure what social media was around back in 2010.
So, I put my details on LinkedIn. A few months later a recruiter gave me a call. He'd seen my details on LinkedIn. There was a position he was recruiting for that looked like it would suit me. It led to me starting fulltime work again, and working for 5 years then plus another 2 (gap for health reasons). I worked with them til I was 66. Ten years after I'd left my previous employer and thinking I was already retired. I had a "ball" in this job. The work was different than anything I'd done before. I was travelling "the world" - mainly USA, Europe and South and South East Asia. Skiing in the Rockies at age 65 on a free w/end on a work trip to Denver. A week in Seoul on another trip.

That is now 12 years ago. Social media has grown massively in that time. I'd be surprised if major employers (not just football clubs) aren't advertising jobs on twitter and at all levels of seniority, where appropriate. I know everyone in the recruitment sector will be watching what's posted on all social media and doing what the guy who got me my job did matching an opportunity they see with people they know who might be interested in the new role.

UTC

[ClaretTony]

What happens at Burnley is selected jobs are advertised on the club's website (probably a requirement) while other vacancies just seem to be filled without any advertising at all.

[Nori1958]

As someone who has been involved for recruitment I can assure you 100% twitter is a platform used widely by prospective employers, and employees, obviously along with other platforms, but I'd be happy to have a bet on physios keeping an eye on twitter for upcoming vacancies

[Boss Hogg]

They probably have good contacts for the position already. If they are not satisfying equal opportunities quotas then they probably need to advertise to a wider range of applicants ( whether they are better for the job or not).

[aggi]

What's the loss in putting it on the club twitter? Are we really thinking that people who would have applied for the job now won't because it was advertised on the club website?

As an aside, I've just looked at my firm's twitter, the second tweet is a job advert for a corporate tax manager.

[Paul Waine]

Why didn't they put "First team manager" on the list as well?

Any suitable candidates will have already been a football (or possibly other sport) club physio in a senior position, and will probably be head-hunted. There is no point putting out adverts for random applications like this.

I was seeing a physio last October - walking football injury. The physiotherapist was developing her career. She got a position with the second tier tennis circuit. She headed out to Dubai for their tournament, while I moved on to another physio.

I'm pretty sure physios are physios are don't limit themselves to just one or two sports.

First team football manager/coach. Yes, that's a little more selective.

[dsr]

As someone who has been involved for recruitment I can assure you 100% twitter is a platform used widely by prospective employers, and employees, obviously along with other platforms, but I'd be happy to have a bet on physios keeping an eye on twitter for upcoming vacancies

Any physio who is qualified for and interested in the job should already know about it. We aren't looking at signing someone who currently works in an NHS hospital and thinking of a career move; we're looking at someone who is already in the industry, with Premier League 1st team experience as number 1 or number 2 or perhaps someone who has been senior physio at championship level. I doubt the suitable candidates' list stretches any further than that.

[dsr]

I was seeing a physio last October - walking football injury. The physiotherapist was developing her career. She got a position with the second tier tennis circuit. She headed out to Dubai for their tournament, while I moved on to another physio.

I'm pretty sure physios are physios are don't limit themselves to just one or two sports.

First team football manager/coach. Yes, that's a little more selective.

Of course physios don't limit themselves to just one or two sports. But do you seriously think that if a second tier tennis coach applies, she will have a chance? If Andy Murray's coach applied, presumably a person with vast experience in sports injuries, I doubt he would get it. A top rugby physio, perhaps.

[Nori1958]

What happens at Burnley is selected jobs are advertised on the club's website (probably a requirement) while other vacancies just seem to be filled without any advertising at all.

They may have been advertised, but maybe just in areas specific to the role advertised, for example if they wanted a chef, they may advertise in publications aimed directly at that sector, and not one that the general public would see.

[daveisaclaret]

What's the loss in putting it on the club twitter? Are we really thinking that people who would have applied for the job now won't because it was advertised on the club website?

As an aside, I've just looked at my firm's twitter, the second tweet is a job advert for a corporate tax manager.

Definitely no loss from putting it on Twitter (maybe it looks a bit tacky to be advertising it underneath a security guard job and refusing to advertise the salary for either, but obviously that wouldn't put any potential candidates off applying).

I'm personally just not sure if now a sensible time to be making appointments to the first team staff, given in about a month's time we're going to need to attract a new first team manager.

[ClaretTony]

They may have been advertised, but maybe just in areas specific to the role advertised, for example if they wanted a chef, they may advertise in publications aimed directly at that sector, and not one that the general public would see.

Which is fine, but some that go on the website, such as this one, is a bit strange.

[Nori1958]

Which is fine, but some that go on the website, such as this one, is a bit strange.

Perhaps it depends on who the role is aimed at. A physio may well keep an eye on football clubs websites if that's where they want to work, a chef not so much so, so needs to be advertised where it would be seen.

[elwaclaret]

The reason I joined twitter is to see what Jobs in history, museums and universities are available…

Twitter is a huge marketplace for skilled professionals, and it is targeted because your own interests display your own area of study.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Of course physios don't limit themselves to just one or two sports. But do you seriously think that if a second tier tennis coach applies, she will have a chance? If Andy Murray's coach applied, presumably a person with vast experience in sports injuries, I doubt he would get it. A top rugby physio, perhaps.

Depends if they've always been just a tennis physio or if they've done other sports and meet the requirements set out below

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[Paul Waine]

Of course physios don't limit themselves to just one or two sports. But do you seriously think that if a second tier tennis coach applies, she will have a chance? If Andy Murray's coach applied, presumably a person with vast experience in sports injuries, I doubt he would get it. A top rugby physio, perhaps.

Hi dsr, I wasn't advocating that the young physiotherapist who treated my walking football injury should put herself forward for the BFC role, just illustrating that physiotherapists have the skills to work across many sports and treat a wide range of sports injuries (and non-sports injuries).

As for Andy Murray's coach, would she/he also be a physiotherapist or just someone with lots of tennis coaching experience?

UTC

[Longsidelenny1882]

Now I know they is a job going I’ve just applied thanks everybody utc

[wilks_bfc]

I didn't think you could start the period of experience required anymore

Is somebody that works 2 days a week for 5yrs more experienced than somebody that has worked the same role for 5 days over 2yrs

[jrgbfc]

I'd be more worried if we were advertising for our next manager on twitter.

[CrosspoolClarets]

This thread is in the realm of trying to think of things to poke the new owners with.

We don’t really know why they got rid of the old staff. We definitely don’t know the best way to replace them. It is just speculating.

I do think it is fair to say that compared to MLS the PL is a massive learning curve and some of these issues, sports science at such an elite level of physical exertion being one, will be hard for them to make the right calls without lots of advice. Not sure we are the ones to provide it though.

[Blakesboots]

You actually think people at that level in this profession, will be keeping an eye out on Twitter?

Absolutely they do. The way all business recruit is changing rapidly, social media is king!

[Commy]

Why didn't they put "First team manager" on the list as well?

That will be Nigel Adkins then. I think he went from physio to manager at Scunthorpe.

[Milltown1882]

Absolutely they do. The way all business recruit is changing rapidly, social media is king!

Exactly. I work for a PLC and we advertise on all the main job boards, LinkedIn and ads go on Facebook and Twitter etc. There’s a huge network of scouts, physios and other support staff that pick up jobs within clubs via twitter.

[bobinho]

What happens at Burnley is selected jobs are advertised on the club's website (probably a requirement) while other vacancies just seem to be filled without any advertising at all.

That’s called “headhunting” isn’t it?

Research is carried out, individuals identified and approached, interviews conducted, appointments made.

Some of the most successful global companies operate this way.

[Rileybobs]

No idea what the issue is with this. As pointed out by lots of people, most organisations advertise job vacancies on Twitter etc.

As an aside, I wouldn’t class a physio as such a niche job that required headhunting. I was undergoing physio treatment a few years ago for a slipped disc and my physio at the time (I think it was with Nuffield Health) said it was his last session because he had taken a job with Barnsley FC. I presume he saw the job advertised somewhere.

[KRBFC]

https://twitter.com/search?q=football%2 ... vxOLQ&s=09

Simple twitter search reveals lots of clubs advertising jobs.

There are also Twitter accounts dedicated to advertising vacancies within football/sports in general.

Then there will be accounts dedicated to advertising specific roles, including physiotherapy.

That's how social media works, it's really simple and perfectly normal to the rest of the world.

Ok but where on that link does it show other PL clubs advertising for first team staff? like a physio?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Ok but where on that link does it show other PL clubs advertising for first team staff? like a physio?

I'm just showing that twitter is used by clubs of varying levels to recruit staff for various positions.

There are far bigger companies than Burnley FC using Twitter for recruitment for bigger and better paid jobs
It's just a simple fact of life, understand it or don't, I'm not really fussed either way.