Villa game is a free hit.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by Socrates » Tue May 17, 2022 9:44 am

Villa is the game to get three points.

Without a shadow of a doubt.

Villa have two games left …… us and City.

Which game do you think that Steven Gerrard, Liverpool legend, is going to prioritise?

Villa will field a slightly weaker team Thursday. And they won’t be fully at it.

That’s the game to target. For sure.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by Dyched » Tue May 17, 2022 9:48 am

I’m not sure the best preparation and also convincing a team they can beat Manchester City at the Etihad is to basically throw a game at home against Burnley .
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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by fatboy47 » Tue May 17, 2022 9:55 am

To call a game a "free hit", when losing it could potentially turn us into a basket case to match the likes of Pompey, Bolton and Bury has to be fishing surely?
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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by HahaYeah » Tue May 17, 2022 9:56 am

I think this scenario could well happen..

Leeds get blown away at Brentford leaving us to need a point from the two games.

Still unbearable tension,but I think we can do this. :geek:

No it's not a free hit,we want the three points then only needing a draw on Sunday.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue May 17, 2022 10:35 am

fatboy47 wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 9:55 am
To call a game a "free hit", when losing it could potentially turn us into a basket case to match the likes of Pompey, Bolton and Bury has to be fishing surely?
It won’t though, will it?

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 17, 2022 11:00 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 10:35 am
It won’t though, will it?
This

We might well become a basket case as time goes on if we get relegated, but its not going to be guaranteed if we get relegated

There will be tough financial choices to be made, and a lot of players will be sold, but that is how clubs not run by states or billionaires have to run

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by summitclaret » Tue May 17, 2022 11:07 am

We must get at least a point at Villa. Newcastle are playing really well and will be very tough to get a point against, never mind beat.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by nil_desperandum » Tue May 17, 2022 12:10 pm

Unless we get 4 points from 2 games we are not in control of our own destiny.
So Villa is definitely not a free hit

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by JohnMcGreal » Tue May 17, 2022 12:57 pm

Definitely not a free hit. It's a very high pressured game which we really, really don't want to lose.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue May 17, 2022 1:06 pm

Think we have established that free hit is perhaps the wrong terminology. I do think we can look at it in a few differing ways to take the pressure off though.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by AwayClaret » Tue May 17, 2022 2:24 pm

We need a point minimum at villa then we have all 3 results scenario in our favour going in to Sunday. Its going to be a tense few days. I usually have strong feelings on how a game is going to go but against Villa I've literally no idea. But the performance at Spurs has given me hope of getting at least a draw.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by JohnMcGreal » Tue May 17, 2022 3:11 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 1:06 pm
Think we have established that free hit is perhaps the wrong terminology. I do think we can look at it in a few differing ways to take the pressure off though.
The pressure is on, there's no point trying to pretend otherwise. I'm sure the players and coaching staff are fully aware of that. I'm also confident they'll be able to deal with it like professionals and get the job done.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by jojomk1 » Tue May 17, 2022 5:13 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 1:06 pm
Think we have established that free hit is perhaps the wrong terminology. I do think we can look at it in a few differing ways to take the pressure off though.
Please explain these few differing ways :roll:

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue May 17, 2022 5:24 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 5:13 pm
Please explain these few differing ways :roll:
I have explained. We know that whatever happens come Sunday we will have a brilliant chance of survival. If we go for it Thursday and lose, the equation still won’t change for Sunday. It’s like having 2 bites at the cherry. I don’t believe Leeds will beat Brentford, in which case I think 1 win will do it.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by martin_p » Tue May 17, 2022 5:26 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 5:24 pm
I have explained. We know that whatever happens come Sunday we will have a brilliant chance of survival. If we go for it Thursday and lose, the equation still won’t change for Sunday. It’s like having 2 bites at the cherry. I don’t believe Leeds will beat Brentford, in which case I think 1 win will do it.
Of course the equation will change for Sunday. Are you misunderstanding the basic maths here?

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue May 17, 2022 5:28 pm

martin_p wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 5:26 pm
Of course the equation will change for Sunday. Are you misunderstanding the basic maths here?
We need a point minimum from the next two games. If we lost, we would still need a point minimum.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by martin_p » Tue May 17, 2022 5:29 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 5:28 pm
We need a point minimum from the next two games. If we lost, we would still need a point minimum.
And if we didn’t lose we’d need zero points minimum and will be guaranteed safety if we win or draw. If we lose we could go down however we do on Sunday.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue May 17, 2022 5:31 pm

martin_p wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 5:29 pm
And if we didn’t lose we’d need zero points minimum and will be guaranteed safety if we win. If we lose we could go down however we do on Sunday.
Have you not read my post? I said the requirement wouldn’t change if we went for it and lost!

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue May 17, 2022 5:31 pm

Let’s just hope we get at least a point on Thursday.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by martin_p » Tue May 17, 2022 5:33 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 5:31 pm
Have you not read my post? I said the requirement wouldn’t change if we went for it and lost!
Have you not read mine? The requirement does change if we lose! We need four points to guarantee safety, we can’t get that from one game.
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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by Top Claret » Tue May 17, 2022 5:49 pm

Free hit my arse, it's a must get smut game or otherwise Newcastle is **** or bust

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue May 17, 2022 5:53 pm

martin_p wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 5:33 pm
Have you not read mine? The requirement does change if we lose! We need four points to guarantee safety, we can’t get that from one game.
That’s the maximum requirement. Pointless going back and forth anyway. We are all nervous for Thursday. I’m trying to look at things differently.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue May 17, 2022 5:56 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 5:49 pm
Free hit my arse, it's a must get smut game or otherwise Newcastle is **** or bust
And even if we get 3 points off Newcastle it might not be enough. Leeds equaliser on Sunday potentially took things out of our hands and meant we have to get at least a draw at Villa to keep it in our own hands and to me that's absolutely vital. We don't want to actually beat Newcastle and find it's not enough!
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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue May 17, 2022 5:57 pm

"Too adventurous v Villa at home"
What game were you at? Two soft goals conceeded with crap defending

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by martin_p » Tue May 17, 2022 6:02 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 5:53 pm
That’s the maximum requirement. Pointless going back and forth anyway. We are all nervous for Thursday. I’m trying to look at things differently.
You can look as differently as you want, if we lose on Thursday our result on Sunday is immaterial if Leeds win and Everton get two points from their last two games.

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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 17, 2022 6:03 pm

we need points in both games
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Re: Villa game is a free hit.

Post by leelad » Tue May 17, 2022 6:23 pm

Definitely not a free hit. Play like we did against Tottenham and take our chances (the important bit), then we have a good chance. Don't play a high line against their forwards either!

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