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Top Tier Empty??

Post by cockneyclaret » Thu May 19, 2022 8:42 pm

How comes half of the away sits empty?
With a game like this and we're told it's sold out!!

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by DCWat » Thu May 19, 2022 8:48 pm

cockneyclaret wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 8:42 pm
How comes half of the away sits empty?
With a game like this and we're told it's sold out!!
Assume we opted not to take an extra allocation?

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by jrgbfc » Thu May 19, 2022 8:52 pm

Whoever made the decision to not take the tickets needs a severe talking to tomorrow.
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu May 19, 2022 8:55 pm

Maybe we asked and Villa refused

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by cockneyclaret » Thu May 19, 2022 8:55 pm

I don't get it tbh? Huge huge game.. and we take a league 1 allocation.
No wonder no one wants us in this league

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Nori1958 » Thu May 19, 2022 8:58 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 8:52 pm
Whoever made the decision to not take the tickets needs a severe talking to tomorrow.
Not that much demand at xmas
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu May 19, 2022 9:05 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 8:58 pm
Not that much demand at xmas
Think some people are forgetting that this is a rearranged game

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 19, 2022 10:23 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 9:05 pm
Think some people are forgetting that this is a rearranged game
Amazing though that Villa left them empty

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by joey13 » Thu May 19, 2022 10:24 pm

Surely plenty of time to sell the tickets after it was rearranged
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Inchy » Thu May 19, 2022 10:24 pm

We wouldn’t have sold it out. It’s a massive allocation on a midweek game shown on sky with a fed up fan base

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by jrgbfc » Thu May 19, 2022 10:26 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 8:58 pm
Not that much demand at xmas
But if Villa weren't going to sell them to their own fans anyway surely we could have asked for them 3 weeks ago?
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Quicknick » Thu May 19, 2022 10:40 pm

Inchy wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:24 pm
We wouldn’t have sold it out. It’s a massive allocation on a midweek game shown on sky with a fed up fan base
Fed up fan base? This was a vital match.
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Thu May 19, 2022 10:42 pm

I thought that they were empty because they didn't want home fans above us.

We took enough, more than a tenth of our home support. Well done to those who went. 8-)
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by mybloodisclaret » Fri May 20, 2022 12:20 am

I'm pretty sure we would have shift the upper tier also. Don't underestimate the fanbase.

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Leisure » Fri May 20, 2022 12:36 am

Inchy wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:24 pm
with a fed up fan base
Really!
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Fri May 20, 2022 8:13 am

Inchy wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:24 pm
with a fed up fan base
On the contrary since a certain decision on Good Friday the fan base has been almost euphoric by comparison

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by groove » Fri May 20, 2022 8:18 am

Ludicrous decision. I know dozens of people who went/wanted to go to last night's game who, for various reasons didn't fancy the game in December.

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri May 20, 2022 8:33 am

There is no doubt we’d have sold out that top tier given the chance.
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Leisure » Fri May 20, 2022 9:44 am

According to our ticket office when I asked the question if are we now going to take the top tier, I was told that we couldn't as Villa had sold it to their fans. I pointed out that on their seating plan it was blocked out and, therefore, not available to home fans, I didn't get a response/reply! Very poor for the team to see a half empty away section.
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Zlatan » Fri May 20, 2022 10:03 am

Leisure wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 9:44 am
According to our ticket office when I asked the question if are we now going to take the top tier, I was told that we couldn't as Villa had sold it to their fans. I pointed out that on their seating plan it was blocked out and, therefore, not available to home fans, I didn't get a response/reply! Very poor for the team to see a half empty away section.
sounds similar to what I was told when the limited numbers went on sale again and I missed out on a ticket - I'm furious after seeing that whole block empty. We should have been able to be there and fill it to help the team!
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sat May 21, 2022 12:35 am

Leisure wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 9:44 am
According to our ticket office when I asked the question if are we now going to take the top tier, I was told that we couldn't as Villa had sold it to their fans. I pointed out that on their seating plan it was blocked out and, therefore, not available to home fans, I didn't get a response/reply! Very poor for the team to see a half empty away section.
Honestly it's a disgrace. We looked tinpot last night in such a massive game. All those empty seats.

To say Villa had sold seats in that section is clearly a lie, and to be honest disgusting. I know at least 30 who couldn't get tickets. It needs sorting out. Worried we may lose 40 grand on unsold seats?? I'm more worried about the 60 million we will lose to MSD to have new owners.
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by JohnMac » Sat May 21, 2022 12:43 am

Not a chance the whole of the top tier would have sold out. Maybe a couple of hundred at most regardless of the euphoric 'I wanted to go with x of my mates' type statements.

An additional thousand plus travelling by train and car or organising coaches themselves?

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sat May 21, 2022 12:51 am

JohnMac wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 12:43 am
Not a chance the whole of the top tier would have sold out. Maybe a couple of hundred at most regardless of the euphoric 'I wanted to go with x of my mates' type statements.

An additional thousand plus travelling by train and car or organising coaches themselves?
Not being rude mate, but really got the bug again this season, been all over watching us again as have many of my mates. Im a family bloke now with 2 Burnley mad young lads, this season at 8 and 10 we (Mr and Mrs MBIC) have started taking the lads around England, (Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle, London, Watford) We were nowhere near getting tickets. So many lads I know couldnt get tickets, without doubt we would have shifted the other 2k easily.
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by JohnMac » Sat May 21, 2022 12:54 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 12:51 am
Not being rude mate, but really got the bug again this season, been all over watching us again as have many of my mates. Im a family bloke now with 2 Burnley mad young lads, this season at 8 and 10 we (Mr and Mrs MBIC) have started taking the lads around England, (Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle, London, Watford) We were nowhere near getting tickets. So many lads I know couldnt get tickets, without doubt we would have shifted the other 2k easily.
I would love to have seen it full but we will have to have a difference of opinion on this one :D

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sat May 21, 2022 12:59 am

JohnMac wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 12:54 am
I would love to have seen it full but we will have to have a difference of opinion on this one :D

UTC!
No drama's pal. 3 weeks notice, knowing how big this game was only 2 hours away, we would have sold 4000, just my thoughts ;)

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Longsider » Sat May 21, 2022 7:23 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 12:35 am
Honestly it's a disgrace. We looked tinpot last night in such a massive game. All those empty seats.
I was sat in the North Stand right next to the Burnley fans. Villa fans I went on with were saying it was a very poor turnout from us in terms of numbers. They compared it to a Championship turnout at best. They gave credit to those who were there for the atmosphere they created.

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Clockwork Claret » Sat May 21, 2022 7:31 am

JohnMac wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 12:43 am
Not a chance the whole of the top tier would have sold out. Maybe a couple of hundred at most regardless of the euphoric 'I wanted to go with x of my mates' type statements.

An additional thousand plus travelling by train and car or organising coaches themselves?
Rubbish. 6k points to get a ticket.

I know plenty who couldn't who had the points!!!

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Leisure » Sat May 21, 2022 7:37 am

It really shouldn't have mattered whether or not we would have sold it out. As usually the away club has to take tickets on the basis of paying upfront for any part of the full allocation that, if the away club doesn't take them, the home club would be able to sell them to their own fans eg Liverpool, Everton (top tier). This presumably wouldn't apply at Villa, as they appear to not sell the away top tier to home fans, so difficult to understand why we didn't take it but would love to know the reason!
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by bumba » Sat May 21, 2022 7:46 am

Clockwork Claret wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 7:31 am
Rubbish. 6k points to get a ticket.

I know plenty who couldn't who had the points!!!
They must of gone to general sale there was loads of spare seats around me in the right hand corner

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat May 21, 2022 7:51 am

bumba wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 7:46 am
They must of gone to general sale there was loads of spare seats around me in the right hand corner
They may have got to general sale for the original game, but then they may not have been able to make the rearranged game and didn’t return their tickets for refund

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by BleedingClaret » Sat May 21, 2022 8:11 am

Leisure wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 7:37 am
It really shouldn't have mattered whether or not we would have sold it out. As usually the away club has to take tickets on the basis of paying upfront for any part of the full allocation that, if the away club doesn't take them, the home club would be able to sell them to their own fans eg Liverpool, Everton (top tier). This presumably wouldn't apply at Villa, as they appear to not sell the away top tier to home fans, so difficult to understand why we didn't take it but would love to know the reason!
Be easier to go on a quest to search for the meaning of life Pete than to try and get that info out of Burnley FC
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Sat May 21, 2022 9:03 am

I tried to get a ticket when they went on sale and they were gone within a few hours.

So 3 of us did not make it.

Would easily have shifted the extra tickets. Agree it makes us look tinpot when we are not. Our away support is very good when it matters.

And yes, those who went, as ever, were brilliant.

Anyway, onto Sunday.

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by IanMcL » Sat May 21, 2022 9:35 am

There were empty seats

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Clockwork Claret » Sat May 21, 2022 9:39 am

bumba wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 7:46 am
They must of gone to general sale there was loads of spare seats around me in the right hand corner
Nope. Maybe originally..

But it was 6k points for the resales and they were snapped up.

Judging the attendance on the previous fixture is different. Confident that tier would have been sold.

Besides its a cost the club should have taken.
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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Zlatan » Sat May 21, 2022 9:43 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 9:35 am
There were empty seats
There probably was, but I tried on several occasions to buy a ticket for this game and couldn’t.

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by IanMcL » Sat May 21, 2022 9:46 am

Zlatan wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 9:43 am
There probably was, but I tried on several occasions to buy a ticket for this game and couldn’t.
I don't doubt that. Just a pity that some kept a ticket, which could have been resold. Perhaps some forgot or got ill at the last. Who knows. Nonetheless, there were spaces.

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Re: Top Tier Empty??

Post by Leisure » Sat May 21, 2022 10:31 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 9:46 am
I don't doubt that. Just a pity that some kept a ticket, which could have been resold. Perhaps some forgot or got ill at the last. Who knows. Nonetheless, there were spaces.
A few observations -
1. Possibly quite a few people didn't ask for a refund as our Club didn't advise that this option was available to fans who couldn't make the rearranged game. I was told by the Ticket Office that every person who purchased a ticket for the original game would be contacted to explain that this was an option and to give them a deadline. As far as I'm aware this didn't happen.
2. Anyone who lost their ticket from the original date and didn't know the seat number couldn't get a replacement ticket.
3. As lots of single seats went back on sale, many people stood with their friends rather than occupy the single seat, leaving seats looking vacant.

I still fail to understand why we wouldn't ask for the top tier for the rearranged game and if we did, why Villa wouldn't agree to this, thereby losing ticket income??
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