Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by warksclaret » Sun May 22, 2022 10:31 pm

No Way-he should have gone after the Watford 0-0
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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun May 22, 2022 10:54 pm

No

He has brought too many players in to the club that can't retain possession or score goals.
It took it's toll in the end.

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun May 22, 2022 10:59 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 10:54 pm
No

He has brought too many players in to the club that can't retain possession or score goals.
It took it's toll in the end.
Well that's not wholly true. Essentially we've ri the same 1st 11 for Almost 3 seasons. That's what's take its toll

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by DycheAlmighty » Sun May 22, 2022 11:12 pm

Sheedyclaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 10:06 pm
No hes basically got us relegated
Prompted some nastiness this post. He also got us promoted out of the Championship in 1st place at the first time of asking and kept us afloat for six years.

We do need to restructure with youth and for that reason Dyche wouldn't be the man (he also wouldnt take it). But out of our available options to us now, if Dyche was an option hypothetically, he'd certainly be the most successful, proven candidate out there.

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by clive40golf » Sun May 22, 2022 11:19 pm

Best manager we’ve had in the last 50yrs!
But No, I think the trust would not be there anymore from both sides, and I don’t think he’d give us 100% commitment.
Let’s hope we get as Lucky with the next appointment, but the names mentioned fill me with Dread!

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by Spiral » Sun May 22, 2022 11:28 pm

My real worry is that everyone is going "yeah, get some young players in, play some pretty football, get promoted eventually", like every single team on the planet isn't already trying to do the exact same thing. My worry is that we're idealising a name in the hope they'll bring us that success while disregarding a name who has actually done it for us. Twice. We won't offer it, and Dyche won't take it, so why bring Dyche's name into it? Well, this isn't to say 'bring in Dyche to manage Burnley'; it's to say please, for heaven's sake, moderate your expectations of what we're actually capable of from this position. The two teams promoted automatically from the championship this season have people worth hundreds of millions backing them. I do not feel as though this is going to be a smooth ride, and I'd favour results over style and "the project" at this stage.
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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun May 22, 2022 11:32 pm

Spiral wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 11:28 pm
My real worry is that everyone is going "yeah, get some young players in, play some pretty football, get promoted eventually", like every single team on the planet isn't already trying to do the exact same thing. My worry is that we're idealising a name in the hope they'll bring us that success while disregarding a name who has actually done it for us. Twice. We won't offer it, and Dyche won't take it, so why bring Dyche's name into it? Well, this isn't to say 'bring in Dyche to manage Burnley'; it's to say please, for heaven's sake, moderate your expectations of what we're actually capable of from this position. The two teams promoted automatically from the championship this season have people worth hundreds of millions backing them. I do not feel as though this is going to be a smooth ride, and I'd favour results over style and "the project" at this stage.
This. I'd have taken a gutsy defensive 0-0 at 70 mins with pressure on Leeds knowing they HAD to win (rather than be better than losing) and the new going on to sxuff a goal off Barnsey's arse

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by Long Time Lurker » Sun May 22, 2022 11:37 pm

Irrelevant, but I would have preferred us not to have sacked him.

We got some points from some difficult games prior to his departure and we were on the cusp of facing teams of lesser quality.

I think that we got a bit lucky with the post Dyche bounce results, notching up wins from goals that resulted from chances that were unlikely to lead to goals and Pope playing fantastically well to prevent our opponents from scoring. Some of the tactical decisions in the last few games were completely bizarre, culminating in what we saw earlier today. I think Dyche could have easily notched up the same point tally, but we will never know.

However, I would prefer us to be down in the Championship with Dyche at the helm with a seasoned back room staff behind him. At the moment we have no manager, no backroom staff, no money, no clear playing identity, lots of players out of contract and only a few weeks until the new season starts.

No team has been in our position. The teams that have been relegated in the last few seasons have gone down without huge debts looming over them, they have had solid squads containing players on long contracts ( many of them young ) and every reason to expect a quick return to the PL. When all the bills have been paid I suspect we will be starting out from scratch in every possible way. Garlick got his big pay day, Pace got a Championship club for nothing ( if we survive in the Championship ) and the financial fruits resulting from 10 years of hard work have been liquefied.

The difference is that building a team capable of winning promotion on a shoe string is now a lot tougher.

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by deanothedino » Sun May 22, 2022 11:42 pm

No, we’d have even less players than we’re already set to have

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun May 22, 2022 11:51 pm

Still, at least Jay signed a new contract which he wasn’t going to do under Dyche :roll:

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by AwayClaret » Mon May 23, 2022 12:00 am

Erm no. Wouldn't work now and wasn't working anyway.

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by Enola Gay » Mon May 23, 2022 12:09 am

No.

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by IanMcL » Mon May 23, 2022 12:47 am

For sure. He can rebuild where others cannot.

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by helmclaret » Mon May 23, 2022 12:52 am

No.

It’s a great opportunity to refresh and go again.

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by California Colner » Mon May 23, 2022 12:54 am

Absolutely not

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by tiger76 » Mon May 23, 2022 11:01 am

No the decision has been made, time to crack on and back the new manager. Look forwards not backwards.

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by ClaretPete001 » Mon May 23, 2022 11:32 am

My heart says No - time for a re-boot.

My head says: we need a steady head at the helm until the ALK situation plays itself out.

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by Sleeping Cat » Mon May 23, 2022 11:48 am

Not for me. It had gone stale for a while before he was given the boot and he has to take his share of the blame as performances just were not good enough for majority of the season under him.

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon May 23, 2022 12:14 pm

If Dyche is indeed back at the Turf next season, I bet the club he's managing will have given him a decent budget to work with. I reckon he'll want a club that can give him the resources to get promotion and also be able to stay in the EPL without having to preform minor miracles every week.

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Re: Totally hypothetical...would you have Dyche back?

Post by eastcoastclaret » Mon May 23, 2022 12:18 pm

No, it's time to reset and reinvent the club. Dyche is not the answer.

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