Where will players go....

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:23 am

Let's see who gets closest, clubs and valuation.

Pope - Aston Villa £22m
Tarkowski - Newcastle (Free)
Bardsley - Salford City
Mee - Nottingham Forest (If promoted)
Lennon - Retired
Barnes - Wycombe
Stephens - Retired
Pieters - Huddersfield

Remain with the club - Vydra, Weghorst, McNeill, Cork, Cornet

Neil · Post by **Neil** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:27 am

Barnes and Vokes up front for Wycombe bloody hell. Add their keeper into the mix and they're heading for League 2.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:27 am

Pope - West Ham (£25m)
Tarkowski - West Ham (Free)
Bardsley - (Derby County - player/coach)
Mee - Burnley (2 year deal)
Lennon - Retired
Barnes - Wigan Athletic
Stephens - Oldham Athletic
Pieters - AZ Alkmaar
Cork - Burnley (1 year deal)
Vydra - Burnley (Rehab work/1 year deal)
McNeil - Stays at Burnley
Cornet - Leeds United (£17.5m)
Weghorst - Stays at Burnley

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:29 am

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:23 am
Remain with the club - Vydra, Weghorst, McNeill, Cork, Cornet

We'll be lucky to retain one of those. We are heading for a fire sale.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:41 am

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:27 am
Pope - West Ham (£25m)
Tarkowski - West Ham (Free)
Bardsley - (Derby County - player/coach)
Mee - Burnley (2 year deal)
Lennon - Retired
Barnes - Wigan Athletic
Stephens - Oldham Athletic
Pieters - AZ Alkmaar
Cork - Burnley (1 year deal)
Vydra - Burnley (Rehab work/1 year deal)
McNeil - Stays at Burnley
Cornet - Leeds United (£17.5m)
Weghorst - Stays at Burnley

Can see the logic in the above -but two changes for me

-Tarks Leicester
-Pope Fulham

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:43 am

Pope is worth £35 million and we should hold out for that amount.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:44 am

Pope - Stays
Tarkowski - Newcastle - free
Bardsley - (Derby County - player/coach)
Mee - Burnley (2 year deal)
Lennon - Retired
Barnes - Burnley
Stephens - Retired
Pieters - Burnley
Cork - Burnley (1 year deal)
Vydra - Luton
McNeil - Burnley
Cornet - Burnley
Weghorst - Burnley

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:45 am

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:29 am
We'll be lucky to retain one of those. We are heading for a fire sale.

Rumours are that Cork triggered an extension with yesterdays appearance so there's the one

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:48 am

And one player missed by everyone so far-Brownhill.

Linked with West Ham not too long ago.

Would be delighted if he stays.

Blakesboots · Post by **Blakesboots** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:49 am

How about, who’ll be the first play THROUGH the door? Stop being so negative.

There’s no doom and gloom around Turf Moor this morning, disappointment, yes, but also a steely resolve to smack plan B into action!

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:54 am

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:45 am
Rumours are that Cork triggered an extension with yesterdays appearance so there's the one

Not heard that but Cork was trying to get his kids on the pitch for a lap of honour as soon as the whistle went. He was the only player doing that while we stayed. We waited for every player to leave, but i don't know if the players came back out or not.
Along with Tarky applauding all 4 sides of the ground, looked like a sign of both leaving.

Could be wrong like.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:54 am

Blakesboots wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:49 am
How about, who’ll be the first play THROUGH the door? Stop being so negative.

There’s no doom and gloom around Turf Moor this morning, disappointment, yes, but also a steely resolve to smack plan B into action!

What is plan B? I think that’s the question fans rightly would like to know, or have some assurance on, from the owners.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:57 am

Blakesboots wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:49 am
How about, who’ll be the first play THROUGH the door? Stop being so negative.

There’s no doom and gloom around Turf Moor this morning, disappointment, yes, but also a steely resolve to smack plan B into action!

Because there’s already threads on that. This isn’t negative, it’s reality. If you think they’ll all stay, put that…. That’s your steely plan b….. and in time, we’ll see if you were right. Pretty simple.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:59 am

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:54 am
Not heard that but Cork was trying to get his kids on the pitch for a lap of honour as soon as the whistle went. He was the only player doing that while we stayed. We waited for every player to leave, but i don't know if the players came back out or not.
Along with Tarky applauding all 4 sides of the ground, looked like a sign of both leaving.

Could be wrong like.

Apparently they did all come back out afterwards.
We also stayed till they left the field thinking that was it.
Only heard that they had come back out, after hearing it on radio as we were driving home - which judging by the amount of traffic we weren't the only ones

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Mon May 23, 2022 10:59 am

Blakesboots wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:49 am
How about, who’ll be the first play THROUGH the door? Stop being so negative.

There’s no doom and gloom around Turf Moor this morning, disappointment, yes, but also a steely resolve to smack plan B into action!

I’m feeling surprisingly positive this morning.

Arguably easier to rebuild in the Championship. Give some of our youth a bit more of a chance, perhaps?

Most reasonable fans accept there’ll be a number of outgoings, as part of a rebuild and cost cutting exercise.

The biggest and most important decision now is who the new manager is. This is number 1 priority, and will really tell the players and fans if we mean business or not.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Mon May 23, 2022 11:03 am

Blakesboots wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:49 am
How about, who’ll be the first play THROUGH the door? Stop being so negative.

There’s no doom and gloom around Turf Moor this morning, disappointment, yes, but also a steely resolve to smack plan B into action!

So when will the new man be announced?

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Mon May 23, 2022 11:04 am

Pope - West Ham £20m
Pieters - Somewhere in MLS
Cornet - Leeds £17m
Bardsley - Derby County
Barnes - Bristol Rovers
Lennon - Retired
Tarkowski - Newcastle
Stephens - Barrowford Celtic

Cork, Vydra, Mee, Weghorst and McNeil stay.

Cork is a no-brainer for me, perhaps not a starter but he'd be fine for us as a squad player in the Championship.

Thought Vydra would be off but injury?

Weghorst will stick it out until January and reassess.

Mee is a funny one because I don't think he's as likely to sign as some may think. Nottingham Forest earlier in the thread is a good shout but think his age and wage may mean he stays at Burnley, not a bad thing.

Can't see a Premier League club paying more than £15m for McNeil and I think in that case Pace et all will keep him. Although would not be surprised if there's interest from Germany.

Could see Taylor leaving too but not too sure on that.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Mon May 23, 2022 11:11 am

Vydra, out of contract with an ACL injury, has got to be feeling vulnerable.
Are we under any obligation, contractually or morally to offer him a new deal to cover his rehabilitation and return, hopefully, to first-team football?

Blakesboots · Post by **Blakesboots** » Mon May 23, 2022 11:12 am

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:57 am
Because there’s already threads on that. This isn’t negative, it’s reality. If you think they’ll all stay, put that…. That’s your steely plan b….. and in time, we’ll see if you were right. Pretty simple.

Give it two weeks and let the players and agents talk to the club and then we’ll have a clear picture.

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Mon May 23, 2022 11:15 am

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 11:11 am
Vydra, out of contract with an ACL injury, has got to be feeling vulnerable.
Are we under any obligation, contractually or morally to offer him a new deal to cover his rehabilitation and return, hopefully, to first-team football?

I think we would be foolish to offer him a new contract now. Support with his rehab by all means and let him get back to fitness with us. If that turns into a contract offer around January then great, but we can't afford to re-sign injured players.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Mon May 23, 2022 11:15 am

Blakesboots wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 11:12 am
Give it two weeks and let the players and agents talk to the club and then we’ll have a clear picture.

It’s not a ******* contract, it’s a conversation on what might happen.

Sleeping Cat · Post by **Sleeping Cat** » Mon May 23, 2022 11:31 am

Pope - West Ham
Tarkowski - West Ham/Leicester
Bardsley - Retire
Mee - Burnley
Lennon - Hull City
Barnes - Stoke City
Stephens - Derby County
Pieters - PSV
Cork - Burnley
Vydra - Free Agent
McNeil - Fulham
Cornet - Everton
Weghorst - Schalke

Blakesboots · Post by **Blakesboots** » Mon May 23, 2022 11:31 am

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:23 am
Let's see who gets closest, clubs and valuation.

Pope - Aston Villa £22m
Tarkowski - Newcastle (Free)
Bardsley - Salford City
Mee - Nottingham Forest (If promoted)
Lennon - Retired
Barnes - Wycombe
Stephens - Retired
Pieters - Huddersfield

Remain with the club - Vydra, Weghorst, McNeill, Cork, Cornet

Thanks for the reply

What’s the point in guessing though? A simpler stay or go would work! But I’ll play along…all guess work mind!

Pope: Spurs Undisclosed
Tarks: United Released
Bardsley: Salford Released
Mee: Resigns on a two year deal with a coaching element
Lennon: Shef Wed released
Barnes: Preston released
Stephens: Rochdale released
Pieters: Shef Wed released
McNeil: Brighton Undisclosed
Cornet: Bournemouth Undisclosed
Vydra: retained on a month to month contract

SalouClaret · Post by **SalouClaret** » Mon May 23, 2022 12:04 pm

Pope: West Ham
Tarks: Villa
Bardsley: Derby
Mee: Burnley
Lennon: Burnley
Barnes: Burnley
Stephens: Padiham
Pieters: somewhere in Holland
McNeil: Burnley
Cornet: Fulham
Vydra: Burnley

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Mon May 23, 2022 12:05 pm

Pope - Fulham £20m
Tarkowski - Newcastle (Free)
Bardsley - Derby
Lennon - Millwall
Barnes - Plymouth
Stephens - Charlton
Pieters - Utrecht
Brownhill - West Ham £15m
Cornet - Palace £17.5m

Mee, McNeil, Cork all stay as will Weghorst as I don't think he's done enough for other clubs to meet his (presumable?) relegation clause.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon May 23, 2022 12:32 pm

Pope Spurs 38 million.

nonayclaret · Post by **nonayclaret** » Mon May 23, 2022 12:57 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 12:32 pm
Pope Spurs 38 million.

I understand that Lloris has a new contract. Can't see Pope wanting to bench warm?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:02 pm

TsarBomba wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:48 am
And one player missed by everyone so far-Brownhill.

Linked with West Ham not too long ago.

Would be delighted if he stays.

He needs to go too imo, we need a complete rebuild and that has to start with our bunch of non scoring strikers and hot potato central midfielders.

nonayclaret · Post by **nonayclaret** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:04 pm

Brownhill is one player who has transformed himself in the last few months. He would be great for us next season IMO.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:04 pm

Cork as back up is fine, the rest of the CMs can go. Barnes and Vydra need to go, make space for 2 strikers. A rebuild means rebuild, not keep the same not good enough players around and hope things change.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:04 pm

What I think will happen, not what I want obviously.

Pope - West Ham
Tarkowski - Leicester
Bardsley - Sunderland
Mee - Burnley
Lennon - MK Dons
Barnes - Burnley
Stephens - Dundee
Pieters - Burnley
Cork - Burnley
Vydra - Hoffenheim
McNeil - Burnley
Cornet - Fenerbahce
Weghorst - Loan to Wolfsburg

Dodobdobodobo · Post by **Dodobdobodobo** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:06 pm

Pope - West Ham 30M
Tarkowski - Newcastle - free
Bardsley - stays as coach under Rooney
Mee - Burnley (2 year deal)
Lennon - Retired
Barnes - Wigan
Stephens - Crawley
Pieters - AZ Alkmaar
Cork - Burnley (1 year deal)
Vydra - Stays on a rolling contract
McNeil - Burnley
Cornet - Leeds 17.5M
Weghorst - Dortmund 12M
Brownhill- West Ham 15M

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:07 pm

Pope - West Ham
Tarks - Villa/Toon
Bardsley - retired
Mee - Burnley
Pieters - Alkmaar
Vydra - rehab rolling contract
Barnes - Millwall
Cornet - Leeds
Weghorst - PSV
Stephens - Bolton
Collins - Man United

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:08 pm

Pope- Fulham 25m
Tarks- Leicester free.
Mee- Championship playoff winners, free. But ideally an extension.
Bardsley- Derby, free, player coach
Lennon- Millwall, free. Outside chance of an extension due to losing other wingers.
Stephens- Bolton
Pieters- possibly a 1 year extension, otherwise Utrecht victory lap
Barnes- Sunderland. Might get an extension would prefer not.
Vydra- 1 year rehab extension, will not play.
McNeil- Palace 12m (We will feel wronged but it will be based on his return this season).
Cornet- Brentford 17.5m release clause
Weghorst- PSV, 9m
Brownhill- West Ham, 15m.
Taylor- Leeds, 10m.
Possibly Roberts- Bournemouth, 7m.

Between OOCs, fire sale demands and PL proven players with time on the clock wanting out of a sinking ship, I'm fully expecting a mass exodus and 2004 rebuild scenario.

nonayclaret · Post by **nonayclaret** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:09 pm

If Brownhill is being valued at 15M by Dobo..... , how much are the Brownhill-haters thinking we should pay for a replacement!

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:32 pm

Pope: Leicester
Tarks: West Ham
Bardsley: Derby
Mee: Burnley
Lennon: Rotherham
Barnes: Burnley
Stephens: Retire
Pieters: Burnley
McNeil: Fulham
Cornet: France
Weghorst Germany
Vydra: Burnley

Andingle · Post by **Andingle** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:36 pm

Our most sought after players for me , will be Pope ,Collins
Taylor & McNeill.

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:37 pm

Not totally convinced yet Pope will go, too many variables at this stage

If we can keep- Pope, Mee, Vydra, Weghorst, McNeil, Cork & Cornet

Then the rest can go for me

Pieters I like but I think he wants first team football.

Lennon, Barnes, Stephens, Bardsley out

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:44 pm

Ric_C wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 1:37 pm
Not totally convinced yet Pope will go, too many variables at this stage

If we can keep- Pope, Mee, Vydra, Weghorst, McNeil, Cork & Cornet

Then the rest can go for me

Pieters I like but I think he wants first team football.

Lennon, Barnes, Stephens, Bardsley out

I’ll be amazed if Pope stays.

He’ll be desperate to get to the World Cup, after getting back into the England set up.

He won’t go if he’s in the Championship.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon May 23, 2022 1:45 pm

The reality is we literally NEED to sell Pope and Cornet, it's not a question of whether they are willing to stay. We will be actively trying to sell them to pay off the 'significant proportion' of our £65m that has to be done this summer.

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Mon May 23, 2022 2:01 pm

Pope - Leicester - £25m
Tarkowski - Newcastle (Free)
Bardsley - Retire
Mee - Burnley
Lennon - Retired
Barnes - Crewe (local to home...cheaper taxis)
Stephens - Retired
Pieters - Blackpool
Vydra - Nowhere until January
Weghorst - PSV - £15m
McNeill - Burnley
Cork - Burnley
Cornet - Marseille - £17.5m

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Mon May 23, 2022 6:26 pm

On Tarks, The Telegraph has a report this afternoon saying "... But Everton have jumped to the front of the queue for Tarkowski by offering the central defender a contract worth around £90,000-a-week and outlining the ambition of head coach Frank Lampard...."

Also
"...Villa could yet try to trump Everton to his signing by making a firm offer of their own, but Lampard has made the biggest push so far, believing Tarkowski is the perfect profile of player to strengthen his defence.
Tarkowski is understood to be keen to make a decision on his future before he goes on holiday, having spent seven seasons at Burnley where he has consistently been one of the best defenders in the Premier League.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Mon May 23, 2022 6:28 pm

I'm sure we can all agree it's nice to see Everton recovering after their terrible losses caused by Covid.

leelad · Post by **leelad** » Mon May 23, 2022 6:50 pm

Pope - Leicester - £30m
Tarkowski - Everton - free
McNeil - Everton - £15m
Cornet - Brentford - £17.5m (release clause)
Wout - PSV - £15m

Barnes, Lennon, Vydra, Stephens, Bardsley released.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:08 pm

Bump. Interesting to look back at a few months later.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:17 pm

It's a good thing that Brownhiil is still here and hopefully that's the case come the end of the transfer window. He's going to be one of our best players this season I reckon.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:39 pm

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 10:29 am
We'll be lucky to retain one of those. We are heading for a fire sale.

Take away the last sentence. Your prediction was very accurate. We did only retain cork services

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:41 pm

FeedTheArf wrote: ↑
Mon May 23, 2022 12:05 pm
Pope - Fulham £20m
Tarkowski - Newcastle (Free)
Bardsley - Derby
Lennon - Millwall
Barnes - Plymouth
Stephens - Charlton
Pieters - Utrecht
Brownhill - West Ham £15m
Cornet - Palace £17.5m

Mee, McNeil, Cork all stay as will Weghorst as I don't think he's done enough for other clubs to meet his (presumable?) relegation clause.

This turned out well!!