Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Maybe Roberts has a role further forward and we need cover at RB?

Going off the Newcastle game let’s hope not!

[Goobs]

Going off the Newcastle game let’s hope not!

Yeah I always feel it is best to make judgements on a player based on a single game.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Yeah I always feel it is best to make judgements on a player based on a single game.

Yeh true and obviously prior to his arrival he was notorious for his man of the match displays at Swansea as a right winger. Hopefully we’ve learnt our lesson of not moving Kieran Trippier to right wing.

[Taffy on the wing]

The biggest mistake of the Dyche era was not moving Tarkowski to midfield.

[kaptin1]

Yeh true and obviously prior to his arrival he was notorious for his man of the match displays at Swansea as a right winger. Hopefully we’ve learnt our lesson of not moving Kieran Trippier to right wing.

Trippier is a left back according to Southgate…

[alwaysaclaret]

Have we signed anybody yet, just thought I'd ask

[Smile]

Have we signed anybody yet, just thought I'd ask

Tomorrow.

[fatboy47]

Next week.

[Rileybobs]

Trippier is a left back according to Southgate…

I really don’t get this fascination with Trippier playing at left back. Wingers play on the opposite flank to their strong foot, why not full backs? And he’s not exactly keeping a world class left back out of the side is he?

Southgate doesn’t see him as a left back, he just thinks he’s better at left back than the available alternatives - and not as good at right back as some of the alternatives.

[Smile]

I really don’t get this fascination with Trippier playing at left back. Wingers play on the opposite flank to their strong foot, why not full backs? And he’s not exactly keeping a world class left back out of the side is he?

Southgate doesn’t see him as a left back, he just thinks he’s better at left back than the available alternatives - and not as good at right back as some of the alternatives.

You need to watch more football pal.

[Rileybobs]

You need to watch more football pal.

I’ll bear that in mind love.

[CnBtruntru]

Have we signed anybody yet, just thought I'd ask

Give over, by the time the manager signs the widow will be closed

[CnBtruntru]

Have we signed anybody yet, just thought I'd ask

by the time the manager has signed the transfer window will be closed

[CnBtruntru]

oops

[CnBtruntru]

Are we there yet?

[jedi_master]

I thought I'd find out what the horse botherers thought of Harwood-Bellis (as we all know, if a Burnley fan asked for their opinion on him, he would suddenly become a terrible player - of course). This thread makes for very exciting reading (Stoke fan asked them what they thought when he signed on loan for them).

'Future England player'

'Wish he was still at Rovers...'

etc, etc

https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/3523 ... od-bellis/

[Newcastleclaret93]

I thought I'd find out what the horse botherers thought of Harwood-Bellis (as we all know, if a Burnley fan asked for their opinion on him, he would suddenly become a terrible player - of course). This thread makes for very exciting reading (Stoke fan asked them what they thought when he signed on loan for them).

'Future England player'

'Wish he was still at Rovers...'

etc, etc

https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/3523 ... od-bellis/

Could he potentially even become the captain if it’s a permanent deal?

Captains Englands u21s and his leadership has been praised

[Swizzlestick]

Consensus from Stoke fans re THB is that he’s still a raw talent who needs to eradicate mistakes from his game.

[IanMcL]

Sounds like anyone over 12 won't get in our team, if media sources prevail.

[jedi_master]

Consensus from Stoke fans re THB is that he’s still a raw talent who needs to eradicate mistakes from his game.

Yeah was just checking their thoughts out too.

Sounds very much like Collins really. Very good on the ball, good physical attributes, liable to the odd error due to age/inexperience. It's a real shame we were not able to retain Mee as he would have done wonders for Collins and Harwood-Bellis, should he indeed sign.

I think we need to look at getting an old head in at centre back as backup (Gary Cahill is on a free, perhaps that sort).

[Murger]

Yeah was just checking their thoughts out too.

Sounds very much like Collins really. Very good on the ball, good physical attributes, liable to the odd error due to age/inexperience. It's a real shame we were not able to retain Mee as he would have done wonders for Collins and Harwood-Bellis, should he indeed sign.

I think we need to look at getting an old head in at centre back as backup (Gary Cahill is on a free, perhaps that sort).

Cahill isn't a bad shout. If Kompany plays 3 at the back, Collins-Cahill-HB wouldn't be a bad back line.

[Newcastleclaret93]

£9m bid rejected from Bristol city for Antoine Semenyo from unknown club.

I could see that being Burnley attempting to sign him.

[tiger76]

£9m bid rejected from Bristol city for Antoine Semenyo from unknown club.

I could see that being Burnley attempting to sign him.

Just looked up his stats, pretty decent numbers for a mid-table side, 8 goals, 12 assists in only 31 games, mind you he does collect yellow cards 8 to his name last season, ticks a lot of boxes 22, and out of contract in 12 months, so they might be persuaded to sell, and if we could get WW off the books, then put that money towards this lad, could be good business, we definitely need a young striker, Barnes and Jay Rod will play a role next season, but neither is the force they were in their younger years, and we lack a genuine goal threat, someone who will nab 15-20 over the course of a season.

[FeedTheArf]

£9m bid rejected from Bristol city for Antoine Semenyo from unknown club.

I could see that being Burnley attempting to sign him.

I think you're going to be very disappointed in our summer business if you think we'll be putting £9m bids in for players.

[taio]

£9m bid rejected from Bristol city for Antoine Semenyo from unknown club.

I could see that being Burnley attempting to sign him.

Has he been linked whatsoever? I doubt we'll be paying those sort of sums.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Just looked up his stats, pretty decent numbers for a mid-table side, 8 goals, 12 assists in only 31 games, mind you he does collect yellow cards 8 to his name last season, ticks a lot of boxes 22, and out of contract in 12 months, so they might be persuaded to sell, and if we could get WW off the books, then put that money towards this lad, could be good business, we definitely need a young striker, Barnes and Jay Rod will play a role next season, but neither is the force they were in their younger years, and we lack a genuine goal threat, someone who will nab 15-20 over the course of a season.

Yep that’s exactly why I think it’s us that has had a bid rejected.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Has he been linked whatsoever? I doubt we'll be paying those sort of sums.

No link,

It’s an unnamed club. But this type of player makes a lot of sense. It’s me linking him haha just on the basis I think it’s a player the club would be after.

[BigChaCha]

I don't see why 9m is seen as outlandish when I think we have the other half of the Wood money to come yet (not sure about that) and could have close to 80m to 100m in assets to sell... I know money might be tight but I can easily see us spending that, depending on who we sell... The new board have shown a much more aggressive and active transfer policy so I am hoping we replace whoever has left or leaves.

[taio]

I don't see why 9m is seen as outlandish when I think we have the other half of the Wood money to come yet (not sure about that) and could have close to 80m to 100m in assets to sell... I know money might be tight but I can easily see us spending that, depending on who we sell... The new board have shown a much more aggressive and active transfer policy so I am hoping we replace whoever has left or leaves.

Interested in how you think we could get £80m - £100m in sales?

[alwaysaclaret]

Ok- let's get this thread moving, forget the outs let's have some ins, utc's.

[ClaretAL]

Taylor Harwood bellis

https://thecelticstar.com/taylor-harwoo ... k-up-plan/

[RVclaret]

Snippet from Andy Jones from the athletic on our recruitment plans under VK

‘It is understood Kompany has already been part of discussions relating to transfer targets and the players he is keen to retain heading into next season.

As The Athletic reported, the expectation is Burnley are in for a busy summer with the number of their new recruits potentially reaching double figures — not only to replace outgoings but to deepen the squad ahead of a demanding Championship campaign eight games longer than the Premier League one.

Planning for this off-season began two months ago, with multiple players identified at every position. That is now being whittled down, based on physical scouting, economics and the manager’s opinion.

Those lists already drawn up may have shifted as they will be shaped around Kompany’s preferred system and style, which are expected to be significantly different to Dyche’s tactics.

Burnley’s plan is to recruit predominantly younger players this summer to evolve what was the oldest squad in the Premier League. Kompany has proven he can develop and mould youngsters to play his brand of football, often fielding young sides at Anderlecht, and Pace is keen to provide the club he bought 18 months ago with a young, exciting identity.’

[Lancasterclaret]

Snippet from Andy Jones from the athletic on our recruitment plans under VK

‘It is understood Kompany has already been part of discussions relating to transfer targets and the players he is keen to retain heading into next season.

As The Athletic reported, the expectation is Burnley are in for a busy summer with the number of their new recruits potentially reaching double figures — not only to replace outgoings but to deepen the squad ahead of a demanding Championship campaign eight games longer than the Premier League one.

Planning for this off-season began two months ago, with multiple players identified at every position. That is now being whittled down, based on physical scouting, economics and the manager’s opinion.

Those lists already drawn up may have shifted as they will be shaped around Kompany’s preferred system and style, which are expected to be significantly different to Dyche’s tactics.

Burnley’s plan is to recruit predominantly younger players this summer to evolve what was the oldest squad in the Premier League. Kompany has proven he can develop and mould youngsters to play his brand of football, often fielding young sides at Anderlecht, and Pace is keen to provide the club he bought 18 months ago with a young, exciting identity.’

Might go all tits up, but its certainly exciting and something to look forward to, which is what we all want really

[Murger]

A young team would surely be able to deal with the rigours of a 46 game season. Sprinkled with a couple of experienced pros, I think we'll do well.

Exciting times.

[jedi_master]

Snippet from Andy Jones from the athletic on our recruitment plans under VK

‘It is understood Kompany has already been part of discussions relating to transfer targets and the players he is keen to retain heading into next season.

As The Athletic reported, the expectation is Burnley are in for a busy summer with the number of their new recruits potentially reaching double figures — not only to replace outgoings but to deepen the squad ahead of a demanding Championship campaign eight games longer than the Premier League one.

Planning for this off-season began two months ago, with multiple players identified at every position. That is now being whittled down, based on physical scouting, economics and the manager’s opinion.

Those lists already drawn up may have shifted as they will be shaped around Kompany’s preferred system and style, which are expected to be significantly different to Dyche’s tactics.

Burnley’s plan is to recruit predominantly younger players this summer to evolve what was the oldest squad in the Premier League. Kompany has proven he can develop and mould youngsters to play his brand of football, often fielding young sides at Anderlecht, and Pace is keen to provide the club he bought 18 months ago with a young, exciting identity.’

I like the sound of all of this.

[agreenwood]

*Usual UTC suspects delete “Vincent Kompany” from Twitter search and retrieve “Burnley transfer” from favourites. Set alarm on smart phone and to refresh every 15 minutes*

[clarethomer]

Im actually looking forward to the season a little now. I know there is a lot of work to be done on and off the field by the club.

Genuinely hope Vincent is supported to build something we can all be proud of as fans and everyone gets behind the team and club now.

Harwood Bellis would be a good signing

[BigChaCha]

Interested in how you think we could get £80m - £100m in sales?

Weghorst might be an issue but let's say we take a hit on him... 10m

Cornet... 15m

Pope... 20m

Collins... 20m

McNeil... 20m

Brownhill... 20m

Then there is Connor Roberts...

Some may disagree with those prices but at the very lowest conservative estimate, we are talking 70m bare minimum but I think it's more like 100m to 110m of saleable assets.

[BigChaCha]

There is some serious naivety going on here if they think VC is going to be attracted to a club that is not prepared to pay 9m for a player!

[ClaretMov]

Tommy Doyle, Liam Delap and Harwood-Bellis in First for VK

[RVclaret]

Tommy Doyle, Liam Delap and Harwood-Bellis in First for VK

Id take that!

[FeedTheArf]

Weghorst might be an issue but let's say we take a hit on him... 10m

Cornet... 15m

Pope... 20m

Collins... 20m

McNeil... 20m

Brownhill... 20m

Then there is Connor Roberts...

Some may disagree with those prices but at the very lowest conservative estimate, we are talking 70m bare minimum but I think it's more like 100m to 110m of saleable assets.

But we haven't paid for most of those players yet.... whatever loss we make on Weghorst will likely be made up by a small profit on Cornet, so no profit to speak of there. Nobody is paying £20 for Brownhill and we might make £4-5m on Collins once Stoke have their inevitable sell-on clauses together with his alleged knock-down relegation price.

The only big-ticket items that will genuinely boost the coffers are Pope and McNeil and I don't think McNeil's had a strong enough season to warrant bids high enough for us to sell.

Unless we get some new investment or yet more borrowing I genuinely don't see us spending more than £10m net this summer.

[FeedTheArf]

Tommy Doyle, Liam Delap and Harwood-Bellis in First for VK

Boden has already said a move for Doyle is unlikely, but I'd take the other 2!

Interestingly, I came across an article earlier that said there'd been a change in the loan rules and clubs can only loan out a maximum of 8 players to foreign countries. So big clubs are going to be more inclined to loan domestically which could play into our favour, if this is a route we're going to go down.

[longside72]

Just been told Romeo Lavia , belgian unfer 19 international midfielder who is at man city , 18 years old

[RVclaret]

Just been told Romeo Lavia , belgian unfer 19 international midfielder who is at man city , 18 years old

He was at Anderlecht before City. Highly rated it seems.

[BigChaCha]

But we haven't paid for most of those players yet.... whatever loss we make on Weghorst will likely be made up by a small profit on Cornet, so no profit to speak of there. Nobody is paying £20 for Brownhill and we might make £4-5m on Collins once Stoke have their inevitable sell-on clauses together with his alleged knock-down relegation price.

The only big-ticket items that will genuinely boost the coffers are Pope and McNeil and I don't think McNeil's had a strong enough season to warrant bids high enough for us to sell.

Unless we get some new investment or yet more borrowing I genuinely don't see us spending more than £10m net this summer.

That's entirely the point... We would get a lot more for them if we stayed up but that does not change the fact that we have between 70m and 110m in saleable assets, depending on who you talk to and also a large chunk of the Wood money to come if true... The doom and gloom is overplayed in my opinion but that is a gut feeling along with knowing that we have some very smart cookies on the board... I don't want to get into the nitty-gritty of the finances though because it bores me to tears and nobody has a clue what the finances truly look like on this board, no matter what they claim!

[ClaretMov]

I think we'll have brought in over the next two week's a minimum of 2 or 3 players and by the time the season kicks off at the end of July we will have between 6 and 8 new players.

New league, new players, new manager and coaching staff and a new style of play plus plenty of local game's with no VAR.........can't bloody wait.

[jojomk1]

Snippet from Andy Jones from the athletic on our recruitment plans under VK

‘It is understood Kompany has already been part of discussions relating to transfer targets and the players he is keen to retain heading into next season.

As The Athletic reported, the expectation is Burnley are in for a busy summer with the number of their new recruits potentially reaching double figures — not only to replace outgoings but to deepen the squad ahead of a demanding Championship campaign eight games longer than the Premier League one.

Planning for this off-season began two months ago, with multiple players identified at every position. That is now being whittled down, based on physical scouting, economics and the manager’s opinion.

Those lists already drawn up may have shifted as they will be shaped around Kompany’s preferred system and style, which are expected to be significantly different to Dyche’s tactics.

Burnley’s plan is to recruit predominantly younger players this summer to evolve what was the oldest squad in the Premier League. Kompany has proven he can develop and mould youngsters to play his brand of football, often fielding young sides at Anderlecht, and Pace is keen to provide the club he bought 18 months ago with a young, exciting identity.’

You can't win anything with kids

Ask Alan Hansen

[Quickenthetempo]

But we haven't paid for most of those players yet.... whatever loss we make on Weghorst will likely be made up by a small profit on Cornet, so no profit to speak of there. Nobody is paying £20 for Brownhill and we might make £4-5m on Collins once Stoke have their inevitable sell-on clauses together with his alleged knock-down relegation price.

We haven't paid all our transfer fees up no, but anymore signings will be staggered as well.

If Stoke have a sell on clause, I can't see them allowing us to insert a low relegation get out in his contract, which will virtually wipe it out for them.

[Paul Waine]

We haven't paid all our transfer fees up no, but anymore signings will be staggered as well.

If Stoke have a sell on clause, I can't see them allowing us to insert a low relegation get out in his contract, which will virtually wipe it out for them.

Hi Qtt, do we know that Stoke have a sell on clause? Didn't the club pay a decent fee for a youngster with no prior EPL experience? I'm also struggling to understand a relegation get out having anything to do with the selling club. Why would Stoke have any day in the club's contract with a player? I don't see Collins having a relegation clause, signed as Tark's replacement, not an immediate first team starter.