Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Clarets4me]

Twine would be a cracking signing, well played if we get it done.

Agreed, Twine should help with the " knotty " problem caused by Tarks and Ben leaving, let's hope MK Dons aren't " stringing " us along with the deal !

[Steddyman]

Twine must be a done deal. Pete O'Rourke posted on twitter the deal is done for £4 million.

[ervi34]

There was some speculation about Harry Darling a few days ago and according to Gareth Vincent on Twitter, Burnley offered MORE than Swansea did, but he wanted to join them. I believe Russel Martin had a key role in that because he was his manager at MK.

[ClaretTony]

I've not been on this thread for a few hours and it had moved on about five pages.

Does look as though a couple of incomings are close.

[Tall Paul]

No way should any deal be done for 40/50% sell on fees. If a selling club wants to do this then they should loan out with no more than modest loan fees. Look what happened with Tarks 27% (as reported) sell on fee to Brentford. Burnley was always better off keeping him until he ran his contract down - because there wasn't enough in the sale value for Burnley to be able to replace.

In addition to limits on clubs signing players and then loaning them out, there should also be limits on clubs selling players with sizeable sell on fees.

That would just inflate the initial transfer fee and make it harder for clubs with limited budgets to sign young players with potential.

[eastcoastclaret]

ben wilmot

[boyyanno]

No way should any deal be done for 40/50% sell on fees. If a selling club wants to do this then they should loan out with no more than modest loan fees. Look what happened with Tarks 27% (as reported) sell on fee to Brentford. Burnley was always better off keeping him until he ran his contract down - because there wasn't enough in the sale value for Burnley to be able to replace.

In addition to limits on clubs signing players and then loaning them out, there should also be limits on clubs selling players with sizeable sell on fees.

Tarks fee was on any profit we made from the sale wasn't it? Either way had we have taken the offer for him reported to be around 30m then we'd have received around 20m. I'd say that's not bad for a player we signed for nowhere near that.

Also what about smaller clubs that develop players at a lower level but have to sell for a lower fee due to their size, league etc. Surely it's a good thing for them that they get a percentage of the future sale?

I don't particularly think there's a problem doing things this way, and i'd bet that if we sold Dwight or Collins to a PL team we would all be screaming out for us to include one.

[Steddyman]

ben wilmot

Wilmott Brown

[Newcastleclaret93]

ben wilmot

Just saw that, could he be on his way as a CM?

[Murger]

They might just have the same agent. It doesn't mean he's signing for us.

[jedi_master]

Ben Wilmot (Stoke City) and Dan Ballard have been photographed together at Rosso in Manchester with Mark Gottlieb (New Era Sports Agency)...

[eastcoastclaret]

Means nothing but can play holding midfield role

[Hipper]

Why is everyone dismissing Kevin Long as a regular player in The Championship. He was rightly been a reserve for the Premier League but surely he should be well capable at our current level.

[Mala591]

Is Vydra staying or going?

Having re-signed Barnes and Rodriguez (and needing two new young ‘centre forwards’) I just can’t see enough room in our squad for him.

[jedi_master]

They might just have the same agent. It doesn't mean he's signing for us.

Very true, all speculation. If we sign Wilmot then one would assume Harwood-Bellis is not happening.

22 years old, well regarded by Stoke fans although they say Harry Soutarr is the better of the two.

[RVclaret]

Why is everyone dismissing Kevin Long as a regular player in The Championship. He was rightly been a reserve for the Premier League but surely he should be well capable at our current level.

Doubt he’s good enough on the ball for a possession system

[Dark Cloud]

Anything happening with Bellis from City? That looked odds on a few days ago and then nothing since. (Well not that I've seen)

[eastcoastclaret]

Anything happening with Bellis from City? That looked odds on a few days ago and then nothing since. (Well not that I've seen)

Perhaps we wanted a permanent deal but didn't work out, always an option for loan as last resort I guess. Which is what Kompany suggested we would do with loans.

[Guller Bull]

I would bloody love it if we could keep hold of Maxwel. I doubt we will but that WOULD be like a new signing.

[bumba]

Even after Ballard, Harwood-Bellis and Twine (if they all join), I feel we'll need:

Another CM due to Westwood's injury (possibly Cullen), at least one more winger (I'd be keen to say two really, with Lennon having left and Gudmundsson being totally unreliable, make that three when Cornet goes), a left back and a striker (when Weghorst is gone).

Maybe VK won't use wingers as such if he likes his player to be fluid and move around a lot.

Don't understand the desperate need for a striker, if Vydra signs we have Vydra Barnes and JRod all capable at that level with Richardson fit again and ready to step up. I don't think it's a priority

[randomclaret2]

Maybe VK won't use wingers as such if he likes his player to be fluid and move around a lot.

Don't understand the desperate need for a striker, if Vydra signs we have Vydra Barnes and JRod all capable at that level with Richardson fit again and ready to step up. I don't think it's a priority

Vydra is injured, he did his cruciate at Watford and could be out for months still .Richardson has not played any first team football and was injured for much of last seasons U23 campaign

[Jakubs Tash]

They might just have the same agent. It doesn't mean he's signing for us.

Or they're just mates and have met up in Manchester whilst Ballard is up here doing his medical?

[jedi_master]

Maybe VK won't use wingers as such if he likes his player to be fluid and move around a lot.

Don't understand the desperate need for a striker, if Vydra signs we have Vydra Barnes and JRod all capable at that level with Richardson fit again and ready to step up. I don't think it's a priority

Well, if we assume Weghorst is gone, we really only have Rodriguez and Barnes (Vydra injured till at least Christmas, and as it stands he isn't a Burnley player anymore in any case). Both are going to be capable in this league, but are out form and getting older.

I read a quote from Kompany that he demands pace and mobility from his forward line, neither of which anyone could really give as descriptions of Barnes and Jay anymore. I am not writing them off, I expect Jay to bag 12-15 this coming season (less certain on Barnes, think he will be the bench Plan B) but we for sure need a pacy, mobile, off the shoulder option (like we had with Gray and Ings in our last two seasons) at this level. I think it's a massive requirement. I had thought that was what Twine was being grabbed for, but seems he is more of an inside winger/number 10 than a straight up centre forward.

[RVclaret]

I would bloody love it if we could keep hold of Maxwel. I doubt we will but that WOULD be like a new signing.

He won’t fancy the Champ.

And I’d imagine we’ll be happy to remove his wages from the books / get more cash in for transfers.

[tiger76]

Maybe VK won't use wingers as such if he likes his player to be fluid and move around a lot.

Don't understand the desperate need for a striker, if Vydra signs we have Vydra Barnes and JRod all capable at that level with Richardson fit again and ready to step up. I don't think it's a priority

I disagree we need a striker, Richardson is unproven, and Vydra (if he signs) is out for a good few months, and much as I appreciate Barnes and Jay Rod it's asking a lot for them to play 46 games in the Championship.

Of course if we sign Twine he could probably perform as a striker/number 10.

[Mala591]

I disagree we need a striker, Richardson is unproven, and Vydra (if he signs) is out for a good few months, and much as I appreciate Barnes and Jay Rod it's asking a lot for them to play 46 games in the Championship.

Of course if we sign Twine he could probably perform as a striker/number 10.

Has Twine ever played as an all out centre forward?

[Newcastleclaret93]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... mpany.html

[Swizzlestick]

He won’t fancy the Champ.

And I’d imagine we’ll be happy to remove his wages from the books / get more cash in for transfers.

On what basis are you suggesting he won’t fancy it? He’d obviously prefer to be playing at the top level but he doesn’t strike me at the type of character to be throwing his toys out like WW. If anything, he comes across as somebody who’ll knuckle down and get on with it.

[BOYSIE31]

I disagree we need a striker, Richardson is unproven, and Vydra (if he signs) is out for a good few months, and much as I appreciate Barnes and Jay Rod it's asking a lot for them to play 46 games in the Championship.

Of course if we sign Twine he could probably perform as a striker/number 10.

I would go as far as needing 2 new strikers and one which will guarantee 20+ goals

[RVclaret]

On what basis are you suggesting he won’t fancy it? He’d obviously prefer to be playing at the top level but he doesn’t strike me at the type of character to be throwing his toys out like WW. If anything, he comes across as somebody who’ll knuckle down and get on with it.

He struggled managing 90 mins last season in the PL and really struggled with the intensity (poor pressing). Btw I’m a big MC fan and advocated him in the team all last season. Just not sure he’ll fancy 46 game Championship. And anyway he’ll probably be off anyway, 17.5m is a steal for someone.

[nyclaret]

We need a striker that is going to score 20+ goals in the league like Gray and Ings did. That’s what gets you out of that division as we all know. Barnes, Jay and Vyds aren’t that.

[RVclaret]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... mpany.html

Lokongo would be a beast in this league.

If they sign Tielemans too then you never know, they might change their mind.

[gawthorpe_view]

Has Twine ever played as an all out centre forward?

From the YouTube video, he looks more like a Danny Ings type striker, coupled with Tripper's ability from free kicks.
Caveat being YouTube can be a little misleading.
Ideal partner for a decent target man though.

[DCWat]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... mpany.html

Nothing may be coming this one, it appears. It has to be said though that the profile of some of the players being linked to us is genuinely exciting, especially in the Championship.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Lokongo would be a beast in this league.

If they sign Tielemans too then you never know, they might change their mind.

Yep I think it highlights that Kompany sees CM as a critical area for him this window.

Lokonga would be immense

[jdrobbo]

Absolutely looks an Ings style to me

[RVclaret]

Absolutely looks an Ings style to me

Twine? Think he operates from a bit deeper, but yes I see the comparison.

[Swizzlestick]

He struggled managing 90 mins last season in the PL and really struggled with the intensity (poor pressing). Btw I’m a big MC fan and advocated him in the team all last season. Just not sure he’ll fancy 46 game Championship. And anyway he’ll probably be off anyway, 17.5m is a steal for someone.

Hmm, fair enough, but I think 'really struggled' is a bit harsh. He was shunted about a lot, mainly because SD didn't really seem to know what to do with him (imo). Personally think his quality would shine through at Championship level but agree that I'll be surprised if we still have him come the end of the window.

[RVclaret]

Yep I think it highlights that Kompany sees CM as a critical area for him this window.

Lokonga would be immense

Yea, and shows the quality of player he’s looking at. Bodes well.

[Swizzlestick]

Think Lokonga was always an optimistic one, especially after they paid over £15m(?) for him. Would be some coup though.

[Newcastleclaret93]

For anyone interested this is Twines 20 goals and 13 assists last season

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7JKeCqK6hBM

[nyclaret]

I would say Twine looks more like an Orsic type player

[claretonthecoast1882]

Is there a lot of jock goalies in League 1

[louieollie]

https://twitter.com/Gareth_Vincent/stat ... 0936643584

First, I owe Louisollie an apology as he was bang on with this

Second, he sounds like he was spot on with Twine as well

Looks like someone really does have some good contacts

Lancaster thank you very much sir , let's just see Twine sign in first

[kentonclaret]

Don't understand the desperate need for a striker, if Vydra signs we have Vydra Barnes and JRod all capable at that level with Richardson fit again and ready to step up. I don't think it's a priority

The very fact that for successive seasons Burnley were among the 3 lowest scoring teams in the PL, and that the top 2 clubs in the Championship had the division's leading scorers in Mitrovic (43) and Solanke (29), it is glaringly obvious that to have any chance of bouncing straight back you need a goalscorer who will net you 20+ goals.

[KRBFC]

That you think Championship Burnley could be signing the likes of Sergio Gomez, Yari Verschaeren, Joshua Zirkzee and Sebastian Szymanski. Players that would have been outside shots at best for Premiership Burnley managed by Kompany.

And that you think that they would be available for £5 - 10m.

Take your pick.

Sevilla and Real Sociedad are interested in Szymanski: Dynamo won't let the Pole go for less than 12 million euros (La Colina de Nervión)

[tiger76]

I would go as far as needing 2 new strikers and one which will guarantee 20+ goals

We certainly will need a 20+ striker, and with the greatest will in the world none of of Barnes, Jay or Vydra will hit that number, Cornet might but I expect him to leave, as will Weghorst in all likelihood.

However strikers that can net 20+ a season cost big bucks generally..

[Smile]

Vydra won't but only because he's injured. Had he been fresh I'd have backed him to score 20+.

[KRBFC]

Always been surprised Cork doesn't score more, dunno if he was limited by the manager in the runs allowed into the box but he has that sweet timing of arrival in his locker and can header a ball.

[KRBFC]

Vydra won't but only because he's injured. Had he been fresh I'd have backed him to score 20+.

I think Vydra would've been really effective for us behind a proven goalscorer with pace/mobility, like Ings/Vydra. Vydra cant hit a cows arse with a banjo but he certainly makes things happen in the final 3rd.