Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[welsbyswife]

Pace has pulled a blinder though. Hasn't got a pot to **** in. Fire sale of our best players. Unproven replacements. And yet most seem to think it's a wonderful strategy.

[RVclaret]

Pace has pulled a blinder though. Hasn't got a pot to **** in. Fire sale of our best players. Unproven replacements. And yet most seem to think it's a wonderful strategy.

[ClaretMov]

Agreed Notts. Too many on here think it's like playing football manager. Very quick to cast off experienced players and think that these prospects are just going to slot in seamlessly and play wonderful attacking football to boot. Just because we have a big name manager. I fear a lot of people are in for a shock. Hope I'm wrong but the season is very close and we look nowhere near.

What experienced players have been cast off ??

[Colburn_Claret]

Echo what others have said about Roberts. Don’t see what he did last season to attract PL interest. Anything north of £10m and you’d have to seriously consider it, given we paid just 2.5m. Would have liked to see him in the Champ with VK’s system but maybe VK feels CJ Egan Riley is capable immediately.

Hamer was linked with Forest in Jan I recall. From the data he looks a very versatile player, can play anywhere across the back four, though it’s his defensive actions rather than attacking which stand out.

Dyche was good at getting the best effort out of players, but let down a lot of good players, because their skills didn't suit his style. Roberts has shown for Swansea and Wales, what he can offer. He just wasn't given the freedom to play that way under SD.
Roberts, McNeil, Cornet, Collins, Vydra ,Taylor could all find a new level under VK, if he releases them from the shackles they were forced to play under.
I'm not trying to diss Dyche, I remain a massive fan, and he did what was necessary, but towards the end his stubbornness was more hurting than helpful, to the players as well as the team.

[FeedTheArf]

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Maybe the guy who said Ballard had failed his medical might not have been far off at all.

Didn’t realise he’d had 2 knee surgeries in as many years, so could be something in it

[tiger76]

I think all our saleable assets are up for sale if the money is right.

Well that's true of any player at any club, and I've no problem cashing in if the offers meet our valuation, and this then allows Kompany to reinvest in replacements.

[ksrclaret]

Pace has pulled a blinder though. Hasn't got a pot to **** in. Fire sale of our best players. Unproven replacements. And yet most seem to think it's a wonderful strategy.

I think we all know that Pace's ability to run and look after our club is massively dubious at best but, for a club with a playing staff with a really high average age which has just been relegated, bringing in younger players with potential is just about the best strategy we could employ at the moment.

[Top Claret]

It's imperative we keep our remaining stalwarts if we are to hold any chance of promotion.

We are taking a gamble in investing in the likes of the lad from Oxford who has no experience outside the lower leagues, in the hope we have got lucky because he comes cheap

[Bigvince]

I’m actually torn between two emotions, excited because we seem to be targeting young promising talent, and trepidation with the thought of losing most of our experienced defenders. I see defence as the most important area of the pitch for experience!

[gandhisflipflop]

Agreed Notts. Too many on here think it's like playing football manager. Very quick to cast off experienced players and think that these prospects are just going to slot in seamlessly and play wonderful attacking football to boot. Just because we have a big name manager. I fear a lot of people are in for a shock. Hope I'm wrong but the season is very close and we look nowhere near.

Ahh the old ‘football/champ manager’ comment. That hasn’t surfaced for a while.

[tiger76]

I’m actually torn between two emotions, excited because we seem to be targeting young promising talent, and trepidation with the thought of losing most of our experienced defenders. I see defence as the most important area of the pitch for experience!

That's my view as well, excitement mixed with uncertainty.

I do agree a solid defence is vital, and the turnover in our backline is a cause for concern, at least in the short term anyway.

[Tinribs]

What experienced players have been cast off ??

What the squad we got relegated with?

Two centre halves both out of contract.

Pieters,bardsley and Lennon combined age of over 100

Pace repairing the damage caused by the previous Chairman’s unwillingness to spend.His plan was to stockpile cash,ready to be paid into his bank account by the first person he could offload too.

[Bigvince]

That's my view as well, excitement mixed with uncertainty.

I do agree a solid defence is vital, and the turnover in our backline is a cause for concern, at least in the short term anyway.

Let’s just hope that a defender of VC’s pedigree can mould them into a solid unit, and quickly!

[warksclaret]

Feel certain a few deals will be confirmed this week.Its best not to get too close to the rumours, what we know is that we are at least scouting good prospects, unlike the past 3 seasons

[KlyBfc]

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Didn’t realise he’d had 2 knee surgeries in as many years, so could be something in it

That would certainly raise alarm bells. Not much good usually comes out of a knee surgery at such a young age, let alone 2. Obviously surgeons / procedures seem to be much better and we all know Ings bounced back from two. But you would imagine it would cause some concern.

Might be that it was all just paper talk about how far down the line we were as well. Maybe we’ve met with him and then had the McNally bid accepted so decided he’s not for us at this moment. You would certainly say (in this day and age) if we are pursuing the buy low sell high strategy a ball playing centre half, as McNally is described as, is more likely to bring in a greater transfer fee in the future than a solid stopper type (as I’ve seen Ballard described of. Though in truth I have no idea about the ability of either.

[SalouClaret]

I think a few on here would rather us sign Frank Sinclair than Egan-Riley or McNally just because he's 'experienced'.


We already have plenty of experienced players to help the new younger signings. I genuinely believe we have the worst fans in football If we signed Sergio Ramos he'd be too old... De Ligt too young etc. etc.

Jesus Christ.

[pushpinpussy]

Danny Ings came back very strong after his knee surgery in 2016

[pushpinpussy]

im not getting too excited with the proposed transfer speculation. they might be young and have potential but I'm not sure its what we need at this moment in time to get us out of this league.

[Firthy]

So many rumours I'm getting confused but to sum things up:

We might be signing Twine, McNally, Egan-Reiily, Harwood-Bellis
Collins and Roberts attracting interest from PL clubs.
Ballard deal is off.

Is that about it or have I missed anything.

[Bigvince]

I think a few on here would rather us sign Frank Sinclair than Egan-Riley or McNally just because he's 'experienced'.


We already have plenty of experienced players to help the new younger signings. I genuinely believe we have the worst fans in football If we signed Sergio Ramos he'd be too old... De Ligt too young etc. etc.

Jesus Christ. Too fictional

[ervi34]

I'm not sure what type of players some of the posters want us to bring. As someone mentioned above, we have a core of senior, experienced players who have played in PL and are more than proven in the Championship. Hennessey, Taylor, Collins, Roberts, Cork, Brownhill, McNeil, Rodriguez. That's 8 experienced, proven players who will (provided they stay with us) likely feature in our starting lineup. You can add Westwood, Gudmundsson, Kevin Long, Lowton, Barnes and Vydra if he stays as options from the bench.

It's not like we are buying 11 players who have 50 apps between them. Twine is literally the best League 1 player, McNally is regarded as one of the best defenders and Harwood-Bellis is England u21 captain.

[SkiptonClaret]

im not getting too excited with the proposed transfer speculation. they might be young and have potential but I'm not sure its what we need at this moment in time to get us out of this league.

You’re absolutely right. We should re-sign Lenno and Bards.

[Goody1975]

If the quality of recruits is determined by outgoings then we have let Pope go in the past few days and have still got Weghorst and Cornet on the books, also not sure when the first instalment of the parachute money is due but it may be that we are waiting for a week or two before moving onto our more experienced targets with bigger fees.

Things seem to be changing rapidly on the rumours/done deal information, we can only see where we are at the beginning of the season and when the transfer window closes.

The players at his disposal are one thing but the big uncertainty here is the manager, although surely he wouldn't have taken the job in the first place if we were only going to gamble by going after lower league players, that just doesn't add up.

[buzzclarets79]

So this morning’s news is Collins and Roberts are off, we’re not signing the lad who’s played in the Championship but instead getting some kid on the cheap from Oxford United.

And this is a sign of our new masterplan. Then penny just will not drop for some folk.

Do you remember a few years ago we signed a defender called M.Duff for I think about £30,000. Now he didn’t turn out to shabby, I’d take that again every day of the week.
Perhaps you’d be happy to buy someone from the Prem for 25m?

[Woodleyclaret]

Looking good so far and if we can get a young eager striker from City on loan that will do
Expecting all current business conducted on Monday

[Rileybobs]

I'm not sure what type of players some of the posters want us to bring. As someone mentioned above, we have a core of senior, experienced players who have played in PL and are more than proven in the Championship. Hennessey, Taylor, Collins, Roberts, Cork, Brownhill, McNeil, Rodriguez. That's 8 experienced, proven players who will (provided they stay with us) likely feature in our starting lineup. You can add Westwood, Gudmundsson, Kevin Long, Lowton, Barnes and Vydra if he stays as options from the bench.

It's not like we are buying 11 players who have 50 apps between them. Twine is literally the best League 1 player, McNally is regarded as one of the best defenders and Harwood-Bellis is England u21 captain.

We’ve just lost players such as Nick Pope and James Tarkowski and gone from signing full internationals with Champions League experience to ‘literally the best League 1 player’.

The player churn and new look team is exciting in many ways, but I can’t help that think people are getting a bit giddy considering the drop in quality of our players. I mean we’re signing players with potential but of a lower quality than the much derided Dale Stephens.

[ervi34]

We’ve just lost players such as Nick Pope and James Tarkowski and gone from signing full internationals with Champions League experience to ‘literally the best League 1 player’.

The player churn and new look team is exciting in many ways, but I can’t help that think people are getting a bit giddy considering the drop in quality of our players. I mean we’re signing players with potential but of a lower quality than the much derided Dale Stephens.

You realize that we got relegated? Tarkowski was going to leave even if we had stayed, and we pretty much also knew that Pope goes if we go down. I hope you didn't expect that we'd continue signing CL player while playing in the second tier.

Again, some of you think that we are getting a whole new squad of unexperienced players. We already have 5-6 proven players who will start for us and hopefully, younger players like Twine and McNally can gel quickly.

[SalouClaret]

I mean we’re signing players with potential but of a lower quality than the much derided Dale Stephens.

I thought you were serious until I read this bit Stephens would struggle in League 1.

[warksclaret]

WE need to take a lesson from Brentford. The recruited Watkins, Toney, Maupey, Tarkowski, Benrahama, Andre Gray and many more for low costs and a number from the lower leagues.They flourished at the club with good coaching and moved on for good money. Thats the model a club like us needs to aspire too if we are to dream about a PL return, not expensive" has-beens"

[Milltown1882]

The Athletic reporting we couldn’t agree terms with Ballard, not a failed medical. Make of that what you will.

[ClaretTony]

Really cannot see how Roberts earned a move back to the PL. He had as many bad games as good last season. Even at his best he’s not going to improve many top flight sides.

Totally agree - still not sure how he fits into a team who play with a back four.

[ClaretTony]

The Athletic reporting we couldn’t agree terms with Ballard, not a failed medical. Make of that what you will.

And that's what it was

[Colburn_Claret]

I’m actually torn between two emotions, excited because we seem to be targeting young promising talent, and trepidation with the thought of losing most of our experienced defenders. I see defence as the most important area of the pitch for experience!

It's really important when you are playing games with 35% possession. I don't think that will be the plan of Kompany.
Defence will always be important, but if we can take the pressure off those defenders, it will be less so.

Like everyone, I'm really hoping that we can hang on to Collins, and it would take a ridiculous fee for me to let him go, but he is a natural leader imo, and we could go into this season as strong as ever. the only area where we can't possibly improve is goalkeeper.

Just give them a time to gel.

[gawthorpe_view]

The Athletic reporting we couldn’t agree terms with Ballard, not a failed medical. Make of that what you will.

Could it possibly be we offered less or added conditions due to the results of the medical?

Edit - Or what CT said.

Just see his post.

[gandhisflipflop]

And that's what it was

Would it be a case of ‘not being able to afford his wages’ which I would find astounding, or a case of him wanting extortionate wages to sign which would be more than we are willing to pay?

[Rileybobs]

I thought you were serious until I read this bit Stephens would struggle in League 1.

Stephens has played over 100 games in the Premier League. You’re going to be disappointed if you think that players we sign from League One will be better. We’re signing players with potential.

[warksclaret]

I wonder if the two medicals on Friday excluded him.You would hope you agree terms first, then the medical

[ervi34]

I wonder if the two medicals on Friday excluded him.You would hope you agree terms first, then the medical

Twine and CJ probably.

[Rileybobs]

You realize that we got relegated? Tarkowski was going to leave even if we had stayed, and we pretty much also knew that Pope goes if we go down. I hope you didn't expect that we'd continue signing CL player while playing in the second tier.

Again, some of you think that we are getting a whole new squad of unexperienced players. We already have 5-6 proven players who will start for us and hopefully, younger players like Twine and McNally can gel quickly.

Yes I do realise we got relegated and no I didn’t expect us to continue signing players with Champions League pedigree when in the second tier. I’m not sure which part of my post suggested either of those things.

[Mattster]

Stephens has played over 100 games in the Premier League. You’re going to be disappointed if you think that players we sign from League One will be better. We’re signing players with potential.

Let's see what level Dale Stephens is playing at next season...

[Rileybobs]

Let's see what level Dale Stephens is playing at next season...

But we aren’t signing Dale Stephens next season.

[NewClaret]

And that's what it was

Wouldn’t we usually agree terms before a medical? Shame if things broke down on terms really.

[Colburn_Claret]

im not getting too excited with the proposed transfer speculation. they might be young and have potential but I'm not sure its what we need at this moment in time to get us out of this league.

It definitely is what we need, but it might take a second season to get promoted. There is a reality to the situation. We need younger, faster, technically better players, that VK and his staff can improve further. The team will only get stronger, the more they get used to each other, and VKs game plan.
Players that we all hope will increase in value, because even if we do get promoted, the long term health of Burnley FC will be dependent on selling players for a profit. Just as it ever was.

[RVclaret]

Doesnt make sense to me that a player would travel for a medical before agreeing terms.

[Mattster]

But we aren’t signing Dale Stephens next season.

You're the one setting 100-PL-appearances Dale Stephens as the benchmark for the new signings...

[tiger76]

But we aren’t signing Dale Stephens next season.

Thank heavens for that.

[Rileybobs]

It definitely is what we need, but it might take a second season to get promoted. There is a reality to the situation. We need younger, faster, technically better players, that VK and his staff can improve further. The team will only get stronger, the more they get used to each other, and VKs game plan.
Players that we all hope will increase in value, because even if we do get promoted, the long term health of Burnley FC will be dependent on selling players for a profit. Just as it ever was.

I think some of you need to calm down with the ‘it may take two seasons to get promoted’. As things stand we have half a squad of players, a rookie manager and are being linked with young players with either no experience or from lower leagues. We may get promoted in one or two seasons, but as things stand we’re a long way from that looking likely.

[bobinho]

Jesus Christ.

Can he play right mid? If so, I’d say it’s a nailed on signing.

[ervi34]

Yes I do realise we got relegated and no I didn’t expect us to continue signing players with Champions League pedigree when in the second tier. I’m not sure which part of my post suggested either of those things.

You said "we are going from signing CL players to signing League 1 players". Who do you expect and want us to sign?

[Rileybobs]

You're the one setting 100-PL-appearances Dale Stephens as the benchmark for the new signings...

Well no, I’m trying to dampen the expectations of those who think that someone who has over 100 PL appearances is sh!t whilst setting themselves at the prospect of signing a player who has played 40 odd times for MK Dons. If any of these lads have a career as successful as Dale Stephens they will have done extremely well.