Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[RVclaret]

I think some of you need to calm down with the ‘it may take two seasons to get promoted’. As things stand we have half a squad of players, a rookie manager and are being linked with young players with either no experience or from lower leagues. We may get promoted in one or two seasons, but as things stand we’re a long way from that looking likely.

Oh good grief.

[ervi34]

Well no, I’m trying to dampen the expectations of those who think that someone who has over 100 PL appearances is sh!t whilst setting themselves at the prospect of signing a player who has played 40 odd times for MK Dons. If any of these lads have a career as successful as Dale Stephens they will have done extremely well.

Dale Stephens was decent 5 years ago but not when we signed him. Lee Cattermole has 270 PL apps, but that doesn't mean he would suit us more than a young player who was the best individual in League 1.

[Rileybobs]

You said "we are going from signing CL players to signing League 1 players". Who do you expect and want us to sign?

I don’t expect anything. I just don’t understand the blind optimism in our current predicament or the praise associated with selling very good players and replacing with kids.

[claretandy]

Both are Republic of Ireland.

Apologies, it's Ballard who is N Ireland.

[Rileybobs]

Oh good grief.

Which part of my post is causing you grief?

[Colburn_Claret]

I think some of you need to calm down with the ‘it may take two seasons to get promoted’. As things stand we have half a squad of players, a rookie manager and are being linked with young players with either no experience or from lower leagues. We may get promoted in one or two seasons, but as things stand we’re a long way from that looking likely.

I don't disagree there are a lot of ifs, buts, maybes.
We are on a new path, to who knows where, but it's definitely a path we had to take. I'd much rather be positive about it, than negative.

I say it might take 2 seasons in hope, because I think if we went up at the first attempt, it would be so much harder, probably too hard, to stay up. Relegation would just have us losing all our best young players and put us back to square 1.

I believe we are heading in the right direction, and as long as we continue to do that most Burnley fans should be happy.

[RVclaret]

Scott twine announced

[claretandy]

The Athletic reporting we couldn’t agree terms with Ballard, not a failed medical. Make of that what you will.

Well he ain't going to get more at Millwall..

[Milltown1882]

Twine’s signed. One down.

[Shaggy]

I think some of you need to calm down with the ‘it may take two seasons to get promoted’. As things stand we have half a squad of players, a rookie manager and are being linked with young players with either no experience or from lower leagues. We may get promoted in one or two seasons, but as things stand we’re a long way from that looking likely.

You’re the one making dale Stephen’s a benchmark. He is exactly what we don’t need. Offered the square root of nothing for us. Another old has been who’s drained our resources.

In reality the only decent players we have lost are Tarks, Mee and Pope. I think we have a good back up for Pope already and Collins is already a better player than Mee.

The players we are reportedly targeting are exactly
What we need.

[claptrappers_union]

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[Rileybobs]

I don't disagree there are a lot of ifs, buts, maybes.
We are on a new path, to who knows where, but it's definitely a path we had to take. I'd much rather be positive about it, than negative.

I say it might take 2 seasons in hope, because I think if we went up at the first attempt, it would be so much harder, probably too hard, to stay up. Relegation would just have us losing all our best young players and put us back to square 1.

I believe we are heading in the right direction, and as long as we continue to do that most Burnley fans should be happy.

Absolutely. Things had gotten stale and fresh start with a new manager and a young fresh group of players is exciting and definitely something to be positive about. I’ve just read numerous people saying ‘it might take us two years to get promoted’ which is bordering on arrogance/delusion considering where we are right now.

[tiger76]

Dale Stephens was decent 5 years ago but not when we signed them. Lee Cattermole has 270 PL apps, but that doesn't mean he would suit us more than a young player who was the best individual in League 1.

Dale Stephens must rank amongst one of our worst ever signings, yes he was cheap, but offered nowt in his 2 years here, and stole wages, which weren't small either, plus no resale value.

At least if we take a calculated punt on some younger lower league talent the odds are some will come off, and even the ones that don't we'll likely make our money back due to their ages.

And it's not like we're buying unknows Twine is highly rated, and will surely only increase in value, exactly the type we should be chasing.

Why do some Burnley fans fear trusting in youth? Yes it carries risks, but less so than continually spending precious resources on ageing journeymen.

[warksclaret]

Twine’s signed. One down.

Great start to the week. Well done BFC

[Mattster]

Well no, I’m trying to dampen the expectations of those who think that someone who has over 100 PL appearances is sh!t whilst setting themselves at the prospect of signing a player who has played 40 odd times for MK Dons. If any of these lads have a career as successful as Dale Stephens they will have done extremely well.

Dale Stephens was sh!t for us, whether that was just down to injury / age decline or him not actually being that good in the first place is opinion.

I'm of the view he just wasn't very good, the majority of those PL appearances were in a Brighton side consistently more involved in a relegation battle than Burnley were. There's no evidence from his time in the PL to suggest he was ever more than a playing above his level.

Also worth noting at the age of 22 Stephens was a League 1 player. If Twine and McNally sign for Burnley they're already ahead of Stephens' career trajectory.

I'm confident these players will be better for Burnley than Stephens ever was. Though that is a very low bar.

[BigF]

Luke McNally is said to be coming to Burnley on the Oxford United website. A big centre back I believe.

[Colburn_Claret]

Dale Stephens must rank amongst one of our worst ever signings, yes he was cheap, but offered nowt in his 2 years here, and stole wages, which weren't small either, plus no resale value.

At least if we take a calculated punt on some younger lower league talent the odds are some will come off, and even the ones that don't we'll likely make our money back due to their ages.

And it's not like we're buying unknows Twine is highly rated, and will surely only increase in value, exactly the type we should be chasing.

Why do some Burnley fans fear trusting in youth? Yes it carries risks, but less so than continually spending precious resources on ageing journeymen.

Stephens didn't work out, but he didn't come knocking on the door "can I have a job please", we recruited him, we offered him the money, so he didn't steal anything.
I know it's all terminology, but it just sounds so disrespectful for a player who was probably as disappointed as the fans that it didn't work out. Whatever mistakes were made in his recruitment, they weren't his.

[Tinribs]

Absolutely. Things had gotten stale and fresh start with a new manager and a young fresh group of players is exciting and definitely something to be positive about. I’ve just read numerous people saying ‘it might take us two years to get promoted’ which is bordering on arrogance/delusion considering where we are right now.

Where we are right now?
5th faves to go up
Top 3 budgets in the division
New coach who already has made us a favourable option for players and had fantastic links with top clubs in England and Europe.
Deadwood all but cleared out freeing up space for a squad rebuild that’s not going to centre around 30 yr old cast offs from championship and prem reserve teams.

Future is looking very bright for us at the moment,just hope we show patience in the rebuild and get behind the new manager and players and remember it’s not all about this season.

[RVclaret]

Luke McNally is said to be coming to Burnley on the Oxford United website. A big centre back I believe.

Nothing on their website.

[Pearcey]

Nothing on their website.

It’s on the vital website so not official.

[tiger76]

Stephens didn't work out, but he didn't come knocking on the door "can I have a job please", we recruited him, we offered him the money, so he didn't steal anything.
I know it's all terminology, but it just sounds so disrespectful for a player who was probably as disappointed as the fans that it didn't work out. Whatever mistakes were made in his recruitment, they weren't his.

Stephens didn't work out, but the warning signs were there when we signed him, he'd barely featured for Brighton the prior season, and he wasn't getting any younger, plus he'd been picking up niggling injuries.

As you say not his fault that Burnley offered him a 2 year deal on good money, but hopefully we've learnt a harsh lesson as a club, and won't repeat these expensive mistakes in future.

The early signs about Kompany's regime are certainly much more promising that's for sure.

[SalouClaret]

Stephens has played over 100 games in the Premier League. You’re going to be disappointed if you think that players we sign from League One will be better. We’re signing players with potential.

Out of interest, would you rather us play Stephens or Twine next season? As someone pointed out, Lee Cattermole has nearly 300 PL appearances... doesn't mean he's any good now. Maybe we should give Roy Keane a bell, he was decent.

[BigF]

Nothing on their website.

Then I apologise. My source in Oxford will be getting a cold hard stare for making me seem foolish. I should have checked the site for myself.

[BigF]

I have looked on the Oxford Mail web site and "Football Insider" and both quote terms agreed for £1.4 million.

[warksclaret]

Very exciting at the signings-but PLEASE can we stop talking about Dale Stephens. Its really depressing me. Doubt he will get another club with his appearances in the last 3 seasons, plus his driving ban

[Bigvince]

Why are we arguing about stephens?

[Middle-agedClaret]

Stephens didn't work out, but he didn't come knocking on the door "can I have a job please", we recruited him, we offered him the money, so he didn't steal anything.
I know it's all terminology, but it just sounds so disrespectful for a player who was probably as disappointed as the fans that it didn't work out. Whatever mistakes were made in his recruitment, they weren't his.

Well said.

[SalouClaret]

Enough on Stephens, back on topic. Twine is a great signing. We haven't signed an exciting young attacking player for quite a while. Hoping he bags a few freekicks too.

I'm quietly confident about this season. I think we'll be in the top 6.

[RVclaret]

Why are we arguing about stephens?

Rileybobs said we shouldn’t be excited about the players we are signing from League One as they aren’t at Dale Stephens level.

[Rileybobs]

Out of interest, would you rather us play Stephens or Twine next season? As someone pointed out, Lee Cattermole has nearly 300 PL appearances... doesn't mean he's any good now. Maybe we should give Roy Keane a bell, he was decent.

I’d rather we play Twine. Not sure why my points are so difficult to understand, they’re written in plain English.

[Rileybobs]

Rileybobs said we shouldn’t be excited about the players we are signing from League One as they aren’t at Dale Stephens level.

No I didn’t. Why would you make something like that up.

As above, the points I’ve made are written in plain English. It’s not my fault if you can’t understand them.

[ClaretMov]

Have we ever announced a signing on Sunday before

[AwayClaret]

Have we ever announced a signing on Sunday before

Cornet?

[tiger76]

Have we ever announced a signing on Sunday before

Cornet was apparently announced on Sunday, and he didn't do too badly did he.

[ClaretMov]

I think some of you need to calm down with the ‘it may take two seasons to get promoted’. As things stand we have half a squad of players, a rookie manager

Kompany has Managed 82 game's in the league, a cup cup final, and games in Europe has a so called rookie

Our last manger Mr Dyche had managed just 49 games before joining Burnley, that rookie didn't turn out bad did it

[arise_sir_charge]

Anybody know how many Premier League games Dale Stephens had played at 22?

[DCWat]

Anybody know how many Premier League games Dale Stephens had played at 22?

Is it somewhere less than 1

[Rileybobs]

Kompany has Managed 82 game's in the league, a cup cup final, and games in Europe has a so called rookie

Our last manger Mr Dyche had managed just 49 games before joining Burnley, that rookie didn't turn out bad did it

It turned out brilliantly. And all of the best managers were rookies at one stage. But that doesn’t mean that Kompany isn’t a rookie, and he’s not managed a single game in this country.

[arise_sir_charge]

Is it somewhere less than 1

Unless one of Bury, Droylsden, Oldham or Rochdale were in the Prem back then I suspect it is.

[Colburn_Claret]

Going off his interview on the club site, 'the fixture list came out yesterday', would suggest that it was filmed on Friday, and therefore all done and dusted by Thursday. So 3 days to acknowledge the signing.
Just a point of interest, so how many will we have signed already, but possibly drip feed one a day to the media......

[ClaretMov]

Well no, I’m trying to dampen the expectations of those who think that someone who has over 100 PL appearances is sh!t whilst setting themselves at the prospect of signing a player who has played 40 odd times for MK Dons. If any of these lads have a career as successful as Dale Stephens they will have done extremely well.

Successful career ??? He's one honour with one title and that was a division one win, he's hardly Kevin De Bruyne

[ClaretMov]

It turned out brilliantly. And all of the best managers were rookies at one stage. But that doesn’t mean that Kompany isn’t a rookie, and he’s not managed a single game in this country.

How many games had Klopp managed in this country before he took over Liverpool.......it means nothing

[Archer]

We’ve just lost players such as Nick Pope and James Tarkowski and gone from signing full internationals with Champions League experience to ‘literally the best League 1 player’.

The player churn and new look team is exciting in many ways, but I can’t help that think people are getting a bit giddy considering the drop in quality of our players. I mean we’re signing players with potential but of a lower quality than the much derided Dale Stephens.

[Rileybobs]

Successful career ??? He's one honour with one title and that was a division one win, he's hardly Kevin De Bruyne

So Dale Stephens hasn’t had a successful career? Wow.

[Rileybobs]

How many games had Klopp managed in this country before he took over Liverpool.......it means nothing

Tell me you didn’t read the post you quoted without telling me you didn’t read the post you quoted.

[AwayClaret]

He successfully stole a wage for a couple of years

[ClaretMov]

Drop in quality of league equals drop in quality of player's

[ClaretMov]

So Dale Stephens hasn’t had a successful career? Wow.

More bottom feeder than successful

[ClaretMov]

Tell me you didn’t read the post you quoted without telling me you didn’t read the post you quoted.

You made a point of Kompany never managed in this country, I made a point that counts for nothing, Tell me you didn’t read the post you quoted without telling me you didn’t read the post you quoted

[Rileybobs]

More bottom feeder than successful

Would love to know how successful a career you’ve had.