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Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Spijed » Thu May 26, 2022 9:59 pm

Seems some supporters have been banned because of trouble at the home game against Arsenal in September.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-61593410

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Roosterbooster » Thu May 26, 2022 10:08 pm

They don't deserve to be called "fans"

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 26, 2022 10:12 pm

how many Arsenal got banned ?

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu May 26, 2022 10:21 pm

Each of them pathetic and deserves to be banned, but my God imagine being the 57 year old there. Embarrassing.
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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by agreenwood » Thu May 26, 2022 10:21 pm

No excusing the behaviour of the younger fans, but imagine being nearly 60 and getting banned from going to football games because you’re a massive nobhead.

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 26, 2022 10:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 10:12 pm
how many Arsenal got banned ?
None again.

Just like Ze Germans

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by NewClaret » Thu May 26, 2022 10:29 pm

What goes through their minds?

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Somethingfishy » Thu May 26, 2022 11:10 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 10:26 pm
None again.

Just like Ze Germans
The search for the Arsenal fans is ongoing.......so they say. :roll:

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 26, 2022 11:31 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 11:10 pm
The search for the Arsenal fans is ongoing.......so they say. :roll:
Winds me up.

Couldn't be easier for the Police.

Start off with 2200 names on the Arsenal data base who bought tickets. Discount any women, children or oaps as the photos they released didn't show any.
Down to 1300?
Start cross referencing names with seats at the divide first and make there way back.

Probably a days work.
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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Somethingfishy » Thu May 26, 2022 11:42 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 11:31 pm
Winds me up.

Couldn't be easier for the Police.

Start off with 2200 names on the Arsenal data base who bought tickets. Discount any women, children or oaps as the photos they released didn't show any.
Down to 1300?
Start cross referencing names with seats at the divide first and make there way back.

Probably a days work.
Exactly my thoughts. Would they still be looking if an Arsenal fan had killed someone throwing a seat? I'm pretty sure they'd have been identified and lifted very quickly.
It's perfectly correct the Burnley fans being convicted and banned but it certainly isn't right when one set of fans seemingly gets away with their equal participation in the disorder. It sends out the message that you can come to Burnley and participate in violent disorder and get away with it. That is two major incidents now where justice has only been dished out to the Burnley fans. Heard little on whether the Hannover fans were identified or arrested and they were clearly the instigators in that unrest.

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by vancouverclaret » Fri May 27, 2022 2:17 am

57 maybe he's reliving his youth. Anyone 57 plus will remember the good old days. ;)

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by fidelcastro » Fri May 27, 2022 2:28 am

It's probably stretching it a bit, thinking they're literate, but do any of them post on here?

Come on, feel free to apologise!

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri May 27, 2022 5:46 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 2:28 am
It's probably stretching it a bit, thinking they're literate, but do any of them post on here?

Come on, feel free to apologise!
😂 really?…

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by jrgbfc » Fri May 27, 2022 6:05 am

I'm sure once they've tracked the Hanover lads down they'll move onto the Arsenal fans. Seriously, how hard would it be to give Arsenal the CCTV images of their fans? Social media would almost do the job for them.
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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Nori1958 » Fri May 27, 2022 7:31 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 11:31 pm
Winds me up.

Couldn't be easier for the Police.

Start off with 2200 names on the Arsenal data base who bought tickets. Discount any women, children or oaps as the photos they released didn't show any.
Down to 1300?
Start cross referencing names with seats at the divide first and make there way back.

Probably a days work.
Footage sent to the police who deal with Arsenal
Any offenders identified by them will appear at court on a different date

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Claret Till I Die » Fri May 27, 2022 7:41 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 7:31 am
Footage sent to the police who deal with Arsenal
Any offenders identified by them will appear at court on a different date
Will that be the same day as the Hanover fans ?

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by bfcjg » Fri May 27, 2022 8:04 am

Refs, Premier league, VAR, Daily mail and now the police with anti Burnley sentiment.

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Herts Clarets » Fri May 27, 2022 8:21 am

Somethingfishy wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 11:10 pm
The search for the Arsenal fans is ongoing.......so they say. :roll:
Apparently the investigation into the Hannover fans is still ongoing, according to the Twitter account of BFC Police last time I engaged with them. So that is a live investigation that has been running for some 5 years. I said at the time no Hannover fans will be charged and when the Police requested footage from people in the ground, it would only be used against Burnley fans. I was told at the time and i quote "you are posting absolute b******s about the Police re the Hannover game. I can't say what i know but your comments are so wide of the mark it's ridiculous".

5 years on, no Hannover fans have been charged and the only people who were arrested following the request for footage were Burnley fans......

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri May 27, 2022 8:24 am

Herts Clarets wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 8:21 am
Apparently the investigation into the Hannover fans is still ongoing, according to the Twitter account of BFC Police last time I engaged with them. So that is a live investigation that has been running for some 5 years. I said at the time no Hannover fans will be charged and when the Police requested footage from people in the ground, it would only be used against Burnley fans. I was told at the time and i quote "you are posting absolute b******s about the Police re the Hannover game. I can't say what i know but your comments are so wide of the mark it's ridiculous".

5 years on, no Hannover fans have been charged and the only people who were arrested following the request for footage were Burnley fans......
The minute Hannover fans were waved off at the airport there was never going to be a single one charged.

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Claretforever » Fri May 27, 2022 8:27 am

Didn’t the same thing happen with the Sheffield Wednesday fans in the Miners too?

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 27, 2022 8:34 am

Claretforever wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 8:27 am
Didn’t the same thing happen with the Sheffield Wednesday fans in the Miners too?
Yep
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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Herts Clarets » Fri May 27, 2022 9:04 am

Claretforever wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 8:27 am
Didn’t the same thing happen with the Sheffield Wednesday fans in the Miners too?
Father and son combo amongst those convicted of the Miners trouble (I know the father going back 35 years or more) and i think you have the same with the Arsenal trouble - the 57 yo and a 20 yo both with the same surname.

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri May 27, 2022 9:06 am

It's a bit pathetic trying to excuse this kind of crap from our own yobs by saying 'but, but, what about them?'.
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Post by 2 Bee Holed » Fri May 27, 2022 9:13 am

Everyone is equal in the eyes of the law.
Except

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri May 27, 2022 9:30 am

2 Bee Holed wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 9:13 am
Everyone is equal in the eyes of the law.
Except
Well, maybe some of you should make a case to the IOPC, if you truly believe that our own yobs are being victimised by the police, instead of wibbling on a message board. Nope, thought not.
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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Rowls » Fri May 27, 2022 9:36 am

Billy Balfour wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 9:06 am
It's a bit pathetic trying to excuse this kind of crap from our own yobs by saying 'but, but, what about them?'.
I don't think anybody is trying to excuse behaviour. What people are concerned about is a very apparent lack of consistency in applying the law.
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Post by 2 Bee Holed » Fri May 27, 2022 9:40 am

Billy Balfour wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 9:30 am
Well, maybe some of you should make a case to the IOPC, if you truly believe that our own yobs are being victimised by the police, instead of wibbling on a message board. Nope, thought not.
Wow. I haven't even expressed an opinion. It is also my first post.

Calm down!

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri May 27, 2022 9:43 am

Rowls wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 9:36 am
I don't think anybody is trying to excuse behaviour. What people are concerned about is a very apparent lack of consistency in applying the law.
You know, maybe it's easier to find out who they are. We are a small town - the police stick a photo online and everyone knows who they are, and they are quickly identified.

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri May 27, 2022 9:45 am

2 Bee Holed wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 9:40 am
Wow. I haven't even expressed an opinion. It is also my first post.

Calm down!
Heh. Just look at the exclamation mark. Maybe it's you who should 'calm down'. You sound like a scouse.

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Fri May 27, 2022 9:48 am

Billy Balfour wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 9:45 am
Heh. Just look at the exclamation mark. Maybe it's you who should 'calm down'. You sound like a scouse.
Thank you. I've noted your comments.
Now move on.

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri May 27, 2022 9:49 am

I'm glad you can let go.

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri May 27, 2022 9:58 am

Anyway, like I said. There is no conspiracy. If you believe there is, then why were the Turf Hotel Newcastle hooligans brought to justice? They were quickly identified by their own. Newcastle might be a city, but everyone up there knows 'who is who' when it comes to stuff like this. Publish CCTV images in the local online newspaper and watch the names roll in.

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Post by Tall Paul » Fri May 27, 2022 10:05 am

Billy Balfour wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 9:45 am
Heh. Just look at the exclamation mark. Maybe it's you who should 'calm down'. You sound like a scouse.
How does somebody sound like a meat and potato stew?

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Pickles » Fri May 27, 2022 10:13 am

Well I suppose no non-season ticket holders in the CFS will continue into next season.

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by turbo5 » Fri May 27, 2022 1:10 pm

I am curious as I don't sit in the CF stand, but have all the wooden seats in the home section been replaced with plastic seats ? reason for the question is the missiles being thrown were wooden seats

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by claptrappers_union » Fri May 27, 2022 1:11 pm

Its plastic seats in the away side, the home side still has wooden seats
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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 27, 2022 1:25 pm

turbo5 wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 1:10 pm
I am curious as I don't sit in the CF stand, but have all the wooden seats in the home section been replaced with plastic seats ? reason for the question is the missiles being thrown were wooden seats
I think the police put that for effect. Them wooden seats way a ton and wouldn't be able to thrown far at all, but if Hercules did throw one and it hit someone, which is likely in a packed crowd. Then they would require medical attention.
It was plastic bottles mainly that I saw from the blogger who was videoing from the Burnley section, he got hit in the face with a plastic bottle thrown from the Arsenal section while filming.
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Post by MiltonKeynesClaret93 » Fri May 27, 2022 2:57 pm

I think it had something to do with our 2018/19 Europa League games.
If we'd gotten into the groups, all the wooden seats would have had to be replaced, but as we'd only got in the play-offs only the seats in the away end had to be. Could be wrong though.

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Post by Marty Dobson » Fri May 27, 2022 3:11 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 8:24 am
The minute Hannover fans were waved off at the airport there was never going to be a single one charged.
What happened to the fat ones?

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 27, 2022 3:23 pm

MiltonKeynesClaret93 wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 2:57 pm
I think it had something to do with our 2018/19 Europa League games.
If we'd gotten into the groups, all the wooden seats would have had to be replaced, but as we'd only got in the play-offs only the seats in the away end had to be. Could be wrong though.
I think they just bought an initial 2400 or so, when they didn't need to buy the rest they just swapped the away seats and replaced a few in the lower longside with any left over.

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 27, 2022 3:56 pm

MiltonKeynesClaret93 wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 2:57 pm
I think it had something to do with our 2018/19 Europa League games.
If we'd gotten into the groups, all the wooden seats would have had to be replaced, but as we'd only got in the play-offs only the seats in the away end had to be. Could be wrong though.
We didn’t have to replace any of the wooden seats but would have done had we beaten Olympiacos. The wooden seats were replaced in the away end in the following summer.

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Re: Turf Moor: Fans banned after seats and bottles thrown

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri May 27, 2022 11:56 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 10:12 pm
how many Arsenal got banned ?
They've all been given counselling and their names put on the seats in the away end.

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