Nathan Collins value decreases!

[IanMcL]

A silly article here, extling the incredible achievement of Nathan Collins, despite playing 19 Prem and a couple of International matches.

It starts saying we paid circa £12m for him. Then come his amazing stats and a rave about him. Finally, Wolves and Leeds want this £9m rated player!!!!

https://www.footballfancast.com/wolves- ... sip-rumour

[tiger76]

Collins is someone we should do everything to retain, and his value will only increase if he impresses next season, plus his stunning goal for Ireland the other day must have put him back in the spotlight.

[pureclaret]

I was thinking we had paid more than that, and if we are selling players it needs to be for huge profit, I do hope that Kompany can get this sort of thing behind us quickly, and brings in extra players who will make us a strong team next season.

[Gaia]

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... re-3733613

[JohnMac]

Reads to me like he is uncertain in case Burnley wish to sell him rather than a desire to leave. Maybe he enjoys joshing with reporters.

[jurek]

We need to keep Collins if only for a season if we don't manage to get back up.
As tiger76 said his value will only increase even after a season in the Championship.
I certainly wouldn't sell for less than 25m. Let's hope there isn't a release clause in his contract.
I'd make him captain if that would help to keep him.

[Vegas Claret]

Someone mentioned on here (no idea at all if it is correct I might add) that Stoke still owed us some money for Vokes so we didn't even pay 12 for him.

[jdrobbo]

Someone mentioned on here (no idea at all if it is correct I might add) that Stoke still owed us some money for Vokes so we didn't even pay 12 for him.

It was me. I stand to be corrected but I’m sure Stoke owed us for Vokes.

[LaLigaClaret]

There is a whole load of drivel and nonsense being spouted on all sorts of club message boards and "local" media pundits and so called "football knowledgeable" reporters gushing gibberish about our players. Collins is a typical example of this. According to these "know it alls" the £9m rated player who seemingly we paid £12m for (go figure? ) is now a in demand player with International caps and wanted by at least 3 Premier League teams yet teams like Leeds and Newcastle can demand we sell them the player for lower and lower amounts because we are in the Championship.

Well unless I'm mistaken Collins is under contract at Turf Moor and has quite a long term contract still remaining so he is our player. If I was in charge at Burnley Collins would be going absolutely nowhere this season unless someone wanted to pay a realistic value which was acceptable to the club AND the player wanted to accept personal terms. I suggest a figure at least twice what we payed for him plus a premium for being chased by 3 clubs. In addition a 30 % sell on clause plus add ons based on appearances etc. Otherwise they should all do one.

The same goes for McNeill, Taylor, Roberts, Brownhill and Pope. Cornet is a bit more difficult and we must hope he wants to stay but if not and there is a relegation or other clause in force then so be it.

I've seen talk of Pope at less than £20m (possibly Burnley to accept £12m in one report) Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha! One of the best keepers in football and likely to go to the World Cup is worth as much as Pickford any day of the week so wouldn't even think about selling for much less than £50m unless we were absolutely desperate.

[IanMcL]

I agree LaLiga.
It seems a natural consequence, to knock off a few million if the player plays in the Championship (even though his last match was in the prem).

All our players get cheaper by the day, when you read the articles. That's why I posted this thread, as a prime example. Man in supreme form, everyone raving...minus £3m yeah right!

[LaLigaClaret]

What about the players who actually played in the Championship who commanded absolutely ridiculous grossly inflated transfer fees who thereafter were dumped by PL clubs at much lower values ? There are also examples of players who went down with PL Clubs but whose value increased quite substantially when they were transferred to other PL clubs.

The ludicrous stories on message boards and by the so-called football reporters still think of Lickle ol' Burnley. They are all delusional.

[Chester Perry]

It was me. I stand to be corrected but I’m sure Stoke owed us for Vokes.

The accounts clearly show an initial £12m fee - £3m paid upfront, £3m (probably due about now) within the current accounting period and £6m to follow in more than 1 year after July 31 2021 (probably in 2 further £3m instalments) there are also performance related additions to the deal and a reported sell on fee of circa 15%)

[Chester Perry]

The accounts clearly show an initial £12m fee - £3m paid upfront, £3m (probably due about now) within the current accounting period and £6m to follow in more than 1 year after July 31 2021 (probably in 2 further £3m instalments) there are also performance related additions to the deal and a reported sell on fee of circa 15%)

I should add they also show very little outstanding to us in transfer debt

[boatshed bill]

It was me. I stand to be corrected but I’m sure Stoke owed us for Vokes.

If they owe us anything it's fopr taking Crouch off their wage bill

[Darnhill Claret]

So the £9m valuation will probably be Burnley’s outstanding balance currently owed to Stoke for the player.

[Mattster]

It's a nothing statement. The £9m is just his transfermarkt valuation, the link where it says "£9m rated" links to his transfermarkt profile.

Showing just how much transfermarkt values should be taken with a pinch of salt.

[RVclaret]

The accounts clearly show an initial £12m fee - £3m paid upfront, £3m (probably due about now) within the current accounting period and £6m to follow in more than 1 year after July 31 2021 (probably in 2 further £3m instalments) there are also performance related additions to the deal and a reported sell on fee of circa 15%)

Does it show this for every single transfer we make or just Collins?

[Chester Perry]

Does it show this for every single transfer we make or just Collins?

It never shows it purposely detailed by individual transfer - only Juventus do that in European club football that I am aware of

however, by virtue of circumstance, Collins being the only incoming transfer in the period and a total clearing of transfer debt in the accounting year by courtesy or fault of Garlick and the Covid influenced budgets (take your pick) this gives us clear insight into the details of the Collins transfer that we would not normally see

[RVclaret]

It never shows it purposely detailed by individual transfer - only Juventus do that in European club football that I am aware of

however, by virtue of circumstance, Collins being the only incoming transfer in the period and a total clearing of transfer debt in the accounting year by courtesy or fault of Garlick and the Covid influenced budgets (take your pick) this gives us clear insight into the details of the Collins transfer that we would not normally see

Interesting, thanks!