Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[KRBFC]

Yeah.

Cork and Cullen would be holding midfielders. Brownhill and Bastien more advanced/box to box. Westwood is somewhere between both, Helm too. Then Phillips is slightly more of a 10. But it's a lot of options and players to keep happy if we're only going to be using 2 a game, even if we're rotating. Same with all the CBs. Maybe we'll be switching game to game through 433, 343, 352, 442 but that seems a lot to get across to a new group in a short space of time.

Wonder if today will give us more insight.

I hoped Phillips would be given a proper crack here after doing well at Accy and Morecambe. He's 24 now, kinda now or never for his Burnley career and looks like he'll be gone without a sniff. We should end this conversation about our squad after signings in the transfer window however, we'll upset people because it's not a Twitter transfer link.

[ClaretMov]

False 9 or 4222 changing to 352 in the game is my guess, at least it's not going to be the predictable 442 season in season out, this makes us harder to scout

[dandeclaret]

Cullen and Bastien has the making of a fantastic partnership

Both have real technical ability. Something we have lacked for a few seasons (credit Cork has the ability but it’s depreciating with age).

The levels they are playing at will speak a lot about their technical ability…….

[ClaretMov]

If thats the case it will be fantastic news. Oh how we missed Joey in the last two seasons

Exactly what we need a Barton type, Cullen isn't shy on the pitch, he loves to break up play, a leader (Played captain at Anderlecht) and can pick a pass, Kompany is going for a certain type of player to fit a certain style of play

[ClaretTony]

5 central mids (not including youngsters like Phillips/Helm), 5 central defenders (excluding Thomas).

Phillips is 24 - wouldn't consider him a youngster

[Mattster]

I hoped Phillips would be given a proper crack here after doing well at Accy and Morecambe. He's 24 now, kinda now or never for his Burnley career and looks like he'll be gone without a sniff. We should end this conversation about our squad after signings in the transfer window however, we'll upset people because it's not a Twitter transfer link.

Swinging it back to a transfer link I've always been hopeful that Phillips would get a proper shot at it this season which makes the Wiles links a little disappointing. They play similar roles and have pretty similar output at League 1 level so seems to spell the end for him. To me seems we could save the money on Wiles for somewhere else by giving Phillips a chance.

Wiles would be a lot cheaper to do in January with 6 months on his contract if it doesn't work out for Phillips.

[arise_sir_charge]

The levels they are playing at will speak a lot about their technical ability…….

You don’t need to be so negative about everything Dande.

Sean has gone mate, he won’t be back anytime soon.

Move on, embrace the change, you’ll feel much better for it.

[kenyon6923]

think we have to bring in the phrase that no football fan likes and that's "its going to take time" - last season we bought a centre half with potential for around 12m in Collins - 2 weeks ago we bought one for 1.6m - we have a new manager, new tactics, new playing style that need to filter through out the whole club. The club's comfy armchair (SD) has left the building and although it has left wonderful facilities behind most of everything else is going to be ripped up and restructured. A lot of IF'S but if Collins left then we go from one of the best centre half pairings ever at Burnley in Tarks and Mee to a new signing and Long, we have issues in the goalkeeper department where as last year we have one of the best in the league. We still have Dad's Army up front although Twine might join that and will that be good enough ? So time to take stock and enjoy the ride - in the top league we spent "big money" on players that turned out to be "ok" (Hendricks, Brady, Weg) so all of a sudden not every players we buy for 1.6m - 4m are going to be great, the whole club needs time.

[CoolClaret]

Id like to see Phillips given a chance as like the 4th/5th centre midfielder (not including Westwood here or more attacking midfield positions) - he’s shown last season some promise on his loan spell and would also save us a wage / signing fee for someone

As other posters have alluded to - with the WC occurring half way through the season we need to have good depth across the board. I’d keep him

[alwaysaclaret]

I hoped Phillips would be given a proper crack here after doing well at Accy and Morecambe. He's 24 now, kinda now or never for his Burnley career and looks like he'll be gone without a sniff. We should end this conversation about our squad after signings in the transfer window however, we'll upset people because it's not a Twitter transfer link.

Does make you wonder where we're up to with O'Hare, wiles and Knight, if Cullen turns out to be the 6th in on Monday. Suppose a lot depends what happens with McNeil, cornet and brownhill, but it looks like vk is winning the battle to convince them to stay, their still here.

[alwaysaclaret]

Does make you wonder where we're up to with O'Hare, wiles and Knight, if Cullen turns out to be the 6th in on Monday. Suppose a lot depends what happens with McNeil, cornet and brownhill, but it looks like vk is winning the battle to convince them to stay, their still here.

And as you rightly point out with Phillips too

[lakedistrictclaret]

I'm very pleased with our window so far, but we still need another striker, and I can't see any current links.

[CoolClaret]

Does make you wonder where we're up to with O'Hare, wiles and Knight, if Cullen turns out to be the 6th in on Monday. Suppose a lot depends what happens with McNeil, cornet and brownhill, but it looks like vk is winning the battle to convince them to stay, their still here.

Cullen/Cork will be for the defensive midfielder roll of Kompany’s formation, Brownhill/Bastien/Wiles more box to box sort of traditional CM and O’Hare/Knight favoured for the more attacking midfield roles (playing between the lines etc)

It’s a fluid but structured system

[KRBFC]

Phillips is 24 - wouldn't consider him a youngster

Yeah mentioned it further up, he's definitely getting on now. Now or never in his Burnley career, is he good enough to step up? will he be given a crack? we're certainly flush on numbers in that area now.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I'm very pleased with our window so far, but we still need another striker, and I can't see any current links.

If Cullen comes in, Striker and keeper are the priority.

Desperately need a 20 goal striker

[ksrclaret]

Dandeclaret has been sulking all summer and hasn't yet come to terms with the fact that Dyche (and his podcast) are no more and we've dropped a division.

I for one am looking forward to the new season and realise that the signings we are making are not going to be of the same calibre as signings we might have made in the PL (or wouldn't have made, given our recent history). It might be a season that ends in disappointment, or it might end in success, but we're taking the right approach so far.

[BennyD]

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[BennyD]

If Cullen comes in, Striker and keeper are the priority.

Desperately need a 20 goal striker

Doesn’t everybody.

[KRBFC]

Does make you wonder where we're up to with O'Hare, wiles and Knight, if Cullen turns out to be the 6th in on Monday. Suppose a lot depends what happens with McNeil, cornet and brownhill, but it looks like vk is winning the battle to convince them to stay, their still here.

O'Hare I get, he's more in the Grealish role, attacking player. Wiles and Knight are box to box CMs, O'Hare could take one of the wide spots or play behind a lone striker. Looks to me like we've brought in replacements for Brownhill and Collins already, be pretty well stocked if neither leave.

[Ric_C]

Remember Brownhill used to play more as an 8 for Bristol City, he ended up more defensive for us

[Fez]

O'Hare I get, he's more in the Grealish role, attacking player. Wiles and Knight are box to box CMs, O'Hare could take one of the wide spots or play behind a lone striker. Looks to me like we've brought in replacements for Brownhill and Collins already, be pretty well stocked if neither leave.

I thought this. Then I was wondering how ohare and twine fit into the side with mcneil as well. A rotating 3 behind a lone striker maybe? Twine can play CF as well so it's definitely interesting. Hope we can keep hold of Collins, i think he's crucial to us.

[RVclaret]

I thought this. Then I was wondering how ohare and twine fit into the side with mcneil as well. A rotating 3 behind a lone striker maybe? Twine can play CF as well so it's definitely interesting. Hope we can keep hold of Collins, i think he's crucial to us.

Twine dropping off the front 2, McNeil and O’Hare as inside 10s. That would be beautiful.

[ClaretMov]

If Cullen comes in, Striker and keeper are the priority.

Desperately need a 20 goal striker

Paul Onuachu 6ft 7inch Target man and would be known to Kompany but well out of our price range

Viktor Gyökeres - Coventry

Loïs Openda - Fellow Belgium

[CoolClaret]

Twine dropping off the front 2, McNeil and O’Hare as inside 10s. That would be beautiful.

I personally don’t think that’s the role for McNeil - for me in VKs system / way of playing he seems a bit of an odd man out.

With a false 9 you’d want players in the mold of a Cornet cutting in at pace and getting shots off - not sure McNeil is the man for that.

See him as a good traditional wide midfielder / maybe a modern day wingback

[jackmiggins]

Wonderful to hear all these expert views, but can we limit posts to actual rumours or info. Analysis from you chaps is wonderful, but a little fed up of scrolling through ****. Jeez!!!

[RVclaret]

I personally don’t think that’s the role for McNeil - for me in VKs system / way of playing he seems a bit of an odd man out.

With a false 9 you’d want players in the mold of a Cornet cutting in at pace and getting shots off - not sure McNeil is the man for that.

See him as a good traditional wide midfielder / maybe a modern day wingback

I didn’t say McNeil as a false 9. Also Cornet isn’t the type to play false 9, that’s more Firmino at Liverpool, Twine could play similar.

McNeil operates best finding space in between the lines in the half space, look at his performances on the right with Robert overlapping towards the end of the season. I’d expect him to play there (he was doing in the Rochdale game).

[Fez]

I personally don’t think that’s the role for McNeil - for me in VKs system / way of playing he seems a bit of an odd man out.

With a false 9 you’d want players in the mold of a Cornet cutting in at pace and getting shots off - not sure McNeil is the man for that.

See him as a good traditional wide midfielder / maybe a modern day wingback

I think to get all 3 in it would have to be 4 2 3 1 with 2 holding midfielders behind. Not sure who plays the lone striker at this minute think that's the final piece of VKs puzzle

[randomclaret2]

Latest from Nixon...
Burnley back off O’Hare and turn to Cullen

[Newcastleclaret93]

Latest from Nixon...
Burnley back off O’Hare and turn to Cullen

I don’t get this at all. They are completely different type of player

[Newcastleclaret93]

Paul Onuachu 6ft 7inch Target man and would be known to Kompany but well out of our price range

Viktor Gyökeres - Coventry

Loïs Openda - Fellow Belgium

Yes hopefully one of the above is a target

[RVclaret]

Yeah that doesn’t make sense

[CoolClaret]

I didn’t say McNeil as a false 9. Also Cornet isn’t the type to play false 9, that’s more Firmino at Liverpool, Twine could play similar.

McNeil operates best finding space in between the lines in the half space, look at his performances on the right with Robert overlapping towards the end of the season. I’d expect him to play there (he was doing in the Rochdale game).

I didn’t think you meant McNeil as a false 9

I meant more that I don’t think he could play as an inside forward behind a false 9 - apologies my post didn’t read quite as intended

[KRBFC]

I thought this. Then I was wondering how ohare and twine fit into the side with mcneil as well. A rotating 3 behind a lone striker maybe? Twine can play CF as well so it's definitely interesting. Hope we can keep hold of Collins, i think he's crucial to us.

Muric
Roberts Collins THB Taylor
Bastien Cullen
Mcneil Twine O'Hare
?????

Something like that maybe? That 3 behind the striker looks incredibly fluid and dangerous.

[RVclaret]

I didn’t think you meant McNeil as a false 9

I meant more that I don’t think he could play as an inside forward behind a false 9 - apologies my post didn’t read quite as intended

Ah get you. I was meaning him as an inside 10 in Kompany’s 4-2-2-2, suits him perfectly IMO.

[KRBFC]

Wonderful to hear all these expert views, but can we limit posts to actual rumours or info. Analysis from you chaps is wonderful, but a little fed up of scrolling through ****. Jeez!!!

People are discussing how our new signings are going to fit into the team, on a topic about new signings. I'm sorry but if you don't like it, go to Twitter and type in Burnley fc transfers or even better, here's NewsNow https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Footb ... ip/Burnley

[CoolClaret]

Ah get you. I was meaning him as an inside 10 in Kompany’s 4-2-2-2, suits him perfectly IMO.

Yeah that’s where we disagree - I don’t think he’s dynamic enough to be a goal scorer in that role imo -

The absolute prototype for that role is Mo Salah, need players that can get shots off and are dynamic / can dribble both ways but perhaps I could be wrong.

[beddie]

I remember reading something about Vydra and his injury and ( I think) he’s now a free agent. Anyone know if that’s correct and if we’ve offered him a return. I really would like to see him back and fit, think he’d flourish in this new system,

[RVclaret]

Yeah that’s where we disagree - I don’t think he’s dynamic enough to be a goal scorer in that role imo -

The absolute prototype for that role is Mo Salah, need players that can get shots off and are dynamic / can dribble both ways but perhaps I could be wrong.

In that system it’s more of a creator role though. Salah plays as an inside forward in a 4–3-3, attacking space left by the false 9.

[KRBFC]

I remember reading something about Vydra and his injury and ( I think) he’s now a free agent. Anyone know if that’s correct and if we’ve offered him a return. I really would like to see him back and fit, think he’d flourish in this new system,

Apparently wants to stay but wants more money than being offered, currently being paid by the club due to his injury, so he can effectively sit out and still get paid whilst injured then decide where he wants to go.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/updat ... t-burnley/

[Fez]

Muric
Roberts Collins THB Taylor
Bastien Cullen
Mcneil Twine O'Hare
?????

Something like that maybe? That 3 behind the striker looks incredibly fluid and dangerous.

Exactly that for me mate interesting to see what this next week brings with signings

[CoolClaret]

I personally don’t think that’s the role for McNeil - for me in VKs system / way of playing he seems a bit of an odd man out.

With an *inside forward role behind a *false 9 you’d want players in the mold of a Cornet cutting in at pace and getting shots off - not sure McNeil is the man for that.

See him as a good traditional wide midfielder / maybe a modern day wingback

Edited here because I can’t edit above

[Nori1958]

People are discussing how our new signings are going to fit into the team, on a topic about new signings. I'm sorry but if you don't like it, go to Twitter and type in Burnley fc transfers or even better, here's NewsNow https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Footb ... ip/Burnley

Or just start a thread on here called... Tactics?

Then this thread can just be for what it was originally intended

[claretandy]

Nixon says that we have cooled on O'Hare.

[ClaretMov]

Nixon says that we have cooled on O'Hare.

Rumour's are they want 7m, so move on

[Hedontplayforyou]

This stinks of us saying we are pulling out and hoping he tries to force the move a bit

[CoolClaret]

In that system it’s more of a creator role though. Salah plays as an inside forward in a 4–3-3, attacking space left by the false 9.

Exactly - I’m saying if we played with a false 9 with inside forwards in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 then I don’t think McNeil can play that role -

I’m skeptical of him playing in the more attacking midfield positions in VK’s 4-2-2-2 but happy to be wrong. Just think he’s better hugging a touch line and whipping it in

[burnley007]

This stinks of us saying we are pulling out and hoping he tries to force the move a bit

We seem to be getting good at that

[ClaretMov]

Exactly - I’m saying if we played with a false 9 with inside forwards in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 then I don’t think McNeil can play that role -

I’m skeptical of him playing in the more attacking midfield positions in VK’s 4-2-2-2 but happy to be wrong. Just think he’s better hugging a touch line and whipping it in

My line up with the player's we have right now

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[NewClaret]

Rumour's are they want 7m, so move on

Good.

I can’t see why we need so many midfielders really, and especially if Cov are wanting those figures (fair play to them for holding out).

Bit surprised Cullen is costing €3-3.5m in the last year of his contract, really.

Priority now should be a fast striker.

[RVclaret]

Good.

I can’t see why we need so many midfielders really, and especially if Cov are wanting those figures (fair play to them for holding out).

Bit surprised Cullen is costing €3-3.5m in the last year of his contract, really.

Priority now should be a fast striker.

£2.5m for Cullen is an absolute bargain.