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Post by agreenwood » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:51 am

Cornet’s agent appears to be hawking him around.

Had a chuckle the other day at the suggestion Cornet might be Chelsea’s Plan B if they couldn’t get Sterling.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:53 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 am
Will he make the step up? Really risky signing for them. Probably take a season or two to be ready at that level.
Probably not going to start to begin with anyway. Will more than likely have a season to bed in

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:53 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:40 am
Lewis-potter moving to Brentford for 20m
This highlights how tough the market will be when a lad who only scored 12 in the championship last season is now worth £20 million.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:54 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:53 am
This highlights how tough the market will be when a lad who only scored 12 in the championship last season is now worth £20 million.
And how bonkers it is that some people would snap hands off at 10m for Dwight.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:55 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 am
Wow 20 million for a 1 in 4 striker last season with 12 goals, the world's gone nuts
13 goals and 4 assists from midfield is pretty impressive

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:59 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:55 am
13 goals and 4 assists from midfield is pretty impressive
He’s a winger / forward rather than midfield. Like Salah / Mane positioning.

20m for someone so unproven at that level, big risk.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:04 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:59 am
He’s a winger / forward rather than midfield. Like Salah / Mane positioning.

20m for someone so unproven at that level, big risk.
18 appearances at Left wing and the rest came from an advanced CM role.

It’s a risk but he’s not going to be starting is he? He’s going to get time to bed in and play. They have three top wingers advanced CMs already at the club.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:06 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:04 am
18 appearances at Left wing and the rest came from an advanced CM role.

It’s a risk but he’s not going to be starting is he? He’s going to get time to bed in and play. They have three top wingers advanced CMs already at the club.
I’d imagine at 20m he’ll likely be starting

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:07 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:04 am
18 appearances at Left wing and the rest came from an advanced CM role.

It’s a risk but he’s not going to be starting is he? He’s going to get time to bed in and play. They have three top wingers advanced CMs already at the club.
Can’t see them wanting to give their record signing too long to bed in..

Theyve smashed their record to get him, they must believe he is ready.

Do you remember a club doing that for a benchwarmer?

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:08 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:06 am
I’d imagine at 20m he’ll likely be starting
Potentially but I doubt it. More than likely been purchased for inevitable loss of Mbeumo in the next year.

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:08 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:59 am
He’s a winger / forward rather than midfield. Like Salah / Mane positioning.

20m for someone so unproven at that level, big risk.
Agreed. Not to say it won’t work out. Some do, like Bowen. Others like Armstrong turn out to be expensive mistakes.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:09 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:07 am
Can’t see them wanting to give their record signing too long to bed in..

Theyve smashed their record to get him, they must believe he is ready.

Do you remember a club doing that for a benchwarmer?
I think he will get at least half a season to a season to bed in.
He will play but to I imagine predominantly off the bench. They currently have three top forwards behind Toney. Be difficult to drop any of them right now.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:13 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:09 am
I think he will get at least half a season to a season to bed in.
He will play but to I imagine predominantly off the bench. They currently have three top forwards behind Toney. Be difficult to drop any of them right now.
Can’t see the logic in it.

They’ve got three too forwards behind Toney that are better than their new record signing..

Why are they singing him then?

They’d be better replacing Eriksen.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:17 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:13 am
Can’t see the logic in it.

They’ve got three too forwards behind Toney that are better than their new record signing..

Why are they singing him then?

They’d be better replacing Eriksen.
I think it’s similar to Collins for us. He was our record signing for CB and I think we are all of the opinion he wouldn’t have got a game if it wasn’t for injuries. Doesn’t mean he’s not a top player it’s just progression planning.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:17 am

Anyway back to transfers

Ryan Taylor is saying we are still chasing Muric.

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Post by Mala591 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:17 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:
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Worryingly no new links to a couple of strikers we desperately need
We’ve already got FOUR strikers in our first team squad - Barnes, Rodriguez, Vydra and Twine.

It sounds very harsh but I think we should terminate Vydra’s contract and recruit a young, lightening fast and powerful replacement.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:19 am

Mala591 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:17 am
We’ve already got FOUR strikers in our first team squad - Barnes, Rodriguez, Vydra and Twine.

It sounds very harsh but I think we should terminate Vydra’s contract and recruit a young, lightening fast and powerful replacement.
Vydra is not in the squad. He is out of contract

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:20 am

Mala591 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:17 am
We’ve already got FOUR strikers in our first team squad - Barnes, Rodriguez, Vydra and Twine.

It sounds very harsh but I think we should terminate Vydra’s contract and recruit a young, lightening fast and powerful replacement.
It’s been said a million times but we HAVE to keep Vydra while he receives rehab for his ACL injury. He’s been offered a new deal but at this stage doesn’t seem to keen on resigning with the current terms.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:21 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:17 am
Anyway back to transfers

Ryan Taylor is saying we are still chasing Muric.
Could do with getting this one over the line asap. I can imagine we aren’t prepared to pay the rumoured 4m that City want.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:23 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:17 am
I think it’s similar to Collins for us. He was our record signing for CB and I think we are all of the opinion he wouldn’t have got a game if it wasn’t for injuries. Doesn’t mean he’s not a top player it’s just progression planning.
Ben Gibson was our record signing, joint with Chris Wood at 15m.

Collins was 12m.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:24 am

Mala591 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:17 am
We’ve already got FOUR strikers in our first team squad - Barnes, Rodriguez, Vydra and Twine.

It sounds very harsh but I think we should terminate Vydra’s contract and recruit a young, lightening fast and powerful replacement.
Vydra is out of contract and receiving treatment through the club as we're obliged to do so. He's been linked with a move back to Derby.

Twine isn't a striker..

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:25 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:23 am
Ben Gibson was our record signing, joint with Chris Wood at 15m.

Collins was 12m.
I am pretty sure it’s been confirmed Gibson ended up costing around 8m

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:25 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:21 am
Could do with getting this one over the line asap. I can imagine we aren’t prepared to pay the rumoured 4m that City want.
Certainly sounds like he’s our number 1 target anyway

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:26 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:25 am
I am pretty sure it’s been confirmed Gibson ended up costing around 8m
No, we sold him for 8m. He cost us 15m.

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Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:26 am

Mala591 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:17 am
We’ve already got FOUR strikers in our first team squad - Barnes, Rodriguez, Vydra and Twine.

It sounds very harsh but I think we should terminate Vydra’s contract and recruit a young, lightening fast and powerful replacement.
Vydra is presently injured, and may not even sign a new deal, Twine isn't an out and out striker, and both Barnes and Rodriguez are ageing and neither offer us the option of power and pace we're crying out for, so yes I agree we need at least one striker who'll be starting, ideally someone young similar to Andre Gray.
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Post by Mala591 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:28 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:20 am
It’s been said a million times but we HAVE to keep Vydra while he receives rehab for his ACL injury. He’s been offered a new deal but at this stage doesn’t seem to keen on resigning with the current terms.
Barnes, Rodriguez and Vydra struggled to score in the PL and imo they’ll struggle to score in the Championship. We need young, fast and powerful new blood up front and the sooner VK realises that the better.

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Post by Mala591 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:30 am

...and don’t start me on central midfield...

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:35 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:26 am
No, we sold him for 8m. He cost us 15m.
I believe Newcastle is right. The deal could have cost 15m with add ons based on performance / appearances etc but these were never met. This meant he only cost around 8m in the end.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:38 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:26 am
No, we sold him for 8m. He cost us 15m.
Pretty certain it was 15m based on add ons. Pretty sure it was confirmed by the club that it only ended up costing around 8m

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:44 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:38 am
Pretty certain it was 15m based on add ons. Pretty sure it was confirmed by the club that it only ended up costing around 8m
Not something I have ever seen. He's listed as our record signing every football data website, joint with Wood.

Even so, Wood still cost more than Collins.

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Post by BigChaCha » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:55 am

We’ve already got FOUR strikers in our first team squad - Barnes, Rodriguez, Vydra and Twine
Barnes is nearly 33 years old and hasn't pulled up any trees for a while... Similar situation with Rodriguez...

Vydra is off long-term injured and will take most of the season before he's back up again and up to match fitness. He may never be the same player after this type of injury as well... There's also the contract uncertainty with him, so you can't rely on a player who is seriously injured and won't sign a new contract...

Twine is nowhere near an out-and-out frontline striker. He plays deeper than that and any goals from him will be a bonus to his creativity and not be relied upon as the main scorer to gain promotion...

I'm in the camp that Barnes & Rodriguez will do better than most people expect here but we 100% still need at least one new striker to come in!

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Post by Paul Waine » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:55 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:44 am
Not something I have ever seen. He's listed as our record signing every football data website, joint with Wood.

Even so, Wood still cost more than Collins.
Chris Wood comfortably wins our record outgoing transfer fee. (See what I did there? ;) ).

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:55 am

Mala591 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:28 am
Barnes, Rodriguez and Vydra struggled to score in the PL and imo they’ll struggle to score in the Championship. We need young, fast and powerful new blood up front and the sooner VK realises that the better.
Agree. And you can add JBG to that list. Can't see any takers for any of them.
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Post by dsr » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:04 am

Mala591 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:17 am
We’ve already got FOUR strikers in our first team squad - Barnes, Rodriguez, Vydra and Twine.

It sounds very harsh but I think we should terminate Vydra’s contract and recruit a young, lightening fast and powerful replacement.
It'd be a big gamble. Young, fast, and powerful might be doable, but any striker who is young, fast and powerful AND who has a proven ability to score, will be taken by a PL club without a doubt. We could only get an unproven one and even he would cost a bob or two.

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Post by It Is What It Is » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:08 am

Vyd's I fear would be an injury prone liability similar to JBG. Financially a bad move for the club to give him another contract
We need fast hungry young bloods up front. VK will have the answer...we just have to be patient.

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Post by lrac » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:18 am

Hitc says possible signing today

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:19 am

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Post by jackmiggins » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:19 am

This thread gets worse! Can someone open one for arguments between our glitterati?
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Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:20 am

Can’t say I’m that excited by Muric as a GK.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:21 am

jackmiggins wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:19 am
This thread gets worse! Can someone open one for arguments between our glitterati?
Your post history is hilarious.
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:23 am

Not really part a transfer rumour, but the idea that we should be offering a contract to Vydra and that we have some moral obligation to him is bonkers

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Post by Goobs » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:30 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:23 am
Not really part a transfer rumour, but the idea that we should be offering a contract to Vydra and that we have some moral obligation to him is bonkers
We have a legal obligation to continue paying him at the moment not a moral one. Also he is a proven player at this level so would he good to retain him when fit.

Nothing bonkers about any of it.
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Post by TsarBomba » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:31 am

Not sure if already mentioned, but there’s a few tenuous links to Gustav Isaksen.

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Post by fatboy47 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:31 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:23 am
Not really part a transfer rumour, but the idea that we should be offering a contract to Vydra and that we have some moral obligation to him is bonkers
Beats me too tbh.

So, in theory, when Ings ran down his contract, he did so without financial risk should he have suffered a serious injury in his last few games?
I'd always thought that was the trade-off.
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Post by eastcoastclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:33 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:20 am
Can’t say I’m that excited by Muric as a GK.
From the clips I've seen, he looks a bit like Pope with some of his saves. Looks more than decent with his feet.

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Post by Pearcey » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:39 am

Goobs wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:30 am
We have a legal obligation to continue paying him at the moment not a moral one. Also he is a proven player at this level so would he good to retain him when fit.

Nothing bonkers about any of it.
I think Lancaster is aware of that. It’s more the point that some are suggesting we have a moral obligation to offer him a new contract. We’ll offer him one if VK wants to keep him.

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Post by Firthy » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:40 am

I still have a feeling that Cornet will stay but more importantly we need a goal scorer, we just don't have the goals in the team with a Chris Wood, Andre Gray type of player.

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Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:43 am

Pearcey wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:39 am
I think Lancaster is aware of that. It’s more the point that some are suggesting we have a moral obligation to offer him a new contract. We’ll offer him one if VK wants to keep him.
What are we required to pay him? Premier league wages or at a reduced rate?

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Post by Pearcey » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:49 am

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:43 am
What are we required to pay him? Premier league wages or at a reduced rate?
I’ve no idea. I imagine it’ll be through the insurance?

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Post by Spijed » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:53 am

fatboy47 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:31 am
Beats me too tbh.

So, in theory, when Ings ran down his contract, he did so without financial risk should he have suffered a serious injury in his last few games?
I'd always thought that was the trade-off.
With the amount players earn these days we should never have any obligation to a player once their contact is up.

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