Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[Granny WeatherWax]

He wants to play in the Prem. I’d much rather have players here who are 100% committed to the cause and can be available to play every Saturday and Tuesday.

No evidence whatsoever of him not being committed, in fact if anything i'd say there is more evidence to the contrary.

[Jambo]

People used to say Tarkowski wasn't committed because of his contract situation. I don't think people know what the word means tbh

[Socrates]

Newcastle’s payments for Wood appeared to be 50% at the time and 50% a year later.

Then the release clause wasn’t triggered for it.

We agreed that.

[arise_sir_charge]

Big Vince mentioned a wage reduction for Cornet in relegation.

I’d be surprised if he and Weghorts signed such deals. Every chance Cornet will still be on whatever he was last season.

[Bigvince]

Big Vince mentioned a wage reduction for Cornet in relegation.

I’d be surprised if he and Weghorts signed such deals. Every chance Cornet will still be on whatever he was last season.

I’m assuming there would be a wage reduction, I thought it was standard practice with us.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Big Vince mentioned a wage reduction for Cornet in relegation.

I’d be surprised if he and Weghorts signed such deals. Every chance Cornet will still be on whatever he was last season.

I agree, I imagine if they signed a release clause on relegation it will also stipulate there is no pay cut.

[RVclaret]

I agree, I imagine if they signed a release clause on relegation it will also stipulate there is no pay cut.

I think the fact Besiktas announced they are paying Weghorst’s salary which is equivalent to 2.5m a year suggests he didn’t have a cut, which would back this up.

[claretandy]

I agree, I imagine if they signed a release clause on relegation it will also stipulate there is no pay cut.

This doesn't make sense, the wage clause protects the club, the fee clause gives the player an out. You won't get one without the other.

[claretandy]

I think the fact Besiktas announced they are paying Weghorst’s salary which is equivalent to 2.5m a year suggests he didn’t have a cut, which would back this up.

What besiktas pay weghorst is irrelevant to what we were paying him, he's probably negotiated an increase.

[NewClaret]

Very clever deal.

We get his wages paid, presumably £2.5m, then £2.5m to sign someone else (first instalment). We go up, we keep Cornet & have the cash to pay the remaining instalments on the player we bought - so get to keep both. If we don’t, and Fulham stay up of course, they buy Cornet & we have the cash to pay the remaining instalments on the player we bought.

As others have said, Nixon’s not always the most reliable on numbers, so I’m taking this with a pinch of salt, but in principle think it’s a good structure.

This would also suggest there’s no release clause. I think it’s only Ornstein who’s said their is, so hopefully not gospel.

Although I know WW has not done himself any favours, it does feel like we might be trying to “hold on” to our better PL-standard players, with some fairly creative structures. That’s a good thing imo I’m terms of avoiding being a yo-yo club like Norwich. Obviously need to get up before we worry about that, but I’d be more comfortable taking loans (e.g. Delap) in the scenario where we have returning players.

[Bigvince]

I hope the club do have wage reductions on relegation! I imagine Bradford city wish there was one in Benito Carboni’s contract when they went down!

[Top Claret]

Looking like Cornet hasn't needed to take a pay cut, thus him not being to fussed about moving on.

Fair play to the lad though in laying low and getting on with the job, move or no move. I would be very surprised if he hasn't moved on in the next couple of weeks to either Fulham or Everton

[Vegas Claret]

and what happens if Fulham stay up, we don't go up and Cornet hates playing (or sitting on the bench) at Fulham and doesn't want to sign for them ?

[Newcastleclaret93]

This doesn't make sense, the wage clause protects the club, the fee clause gives the player an out. You won't get one without the other.

I can’t imagine Cornet or Weghorst signed a contract that resulted in a wage reduction if they are signing one with a release clause.

For example with Weghorst we know they haven’t paid a loan fee, they have paid the amount that covers his wages.

That amount is what his premier league wage was rumoured to be.

[NewClaret]

and what happens if Fulham stay up, we don't go up and Cornet hates playing (or sitting on the bench) at Fulham and doesn't want to sign for them ?

I think where clubs have an obligation to buy, the player has no choice. It’s not really our problem then though.

[lrac]

Need holes reckons the ohara deal is nearly done.region of 9m

[clarethomer]

Gutted about Cornet if he leaves.

He was the player that got me excited to go and watch Burnley at a time where I was getting quite tired of the poor form.

Whilst I held out hope he would decide the feeling of being settled and liked and his surroundings enough to give it another year - I get it and my hopes were never likely to materialise and this deal feels about the best we could hope for in terms of giving hope we may see him again in the claret and blue again for us.

[RVclaret]

Need holes reckons the ohara deal is nearly done.region of 9m

Who?

[lrac]

Ned holmes sorry flw

[Rowls]

Need holes reckons the ohara deal is nearly done.region of 9m

Who?

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

[Zlatan]

Gutted about Cornet if he leaves.

He was the player that got me excited to go and watch Burnley at a time where I was getting quite tired of the poor form.

Whilst I held out hope he would decide the feeling of being settled and liked and his surroundings enough to give it another year - I get it and my hopes were never likely to materialise and this deal feels about the best we could hope for in terms of giving hope we may see him again in the claret and blue again for us.

I too held that sentiment. However we appear to have signed a few players that all have the potential to shine and bring some good feels back to how we play

[claretandy]

I can’t imagine Cornet or Weghorst signed a contract that resulted in a wage reduction if they are signing one with a release clause.

For example with Weghorst we know they haven’t paid a loan fee, they have paid the amount that covers his wages.

That amount is what his premier league wage was rumoured to be.

You've said "we know" and "rumoured", so we don't know.

Remember how shocked we all were when we found out how low cornet's release clause was, that only makes sense if he's having a reduction.

[arise_sir_charge]

The vast majority of our players will have relegation release clauses, no doubt about that.

However Cornet when he came is a different kettle of fish to pulling someone from the Championship (ie a Brownhill) or a premier league reserve type and so is unlikely to sign a contract that has a wage reduction clause or one without a release clause. As a player playing at the level he was, it could be seen that Cornet was taking a big risk in joining us.

I think this is where our more recent business will be a lot different. Twine etc will unlikely have a release clause as we are the ones taking the bigger risk as to whether he can prove himself at a higher level so more of the cards are in our favour.

[Culmclaret]

…..suspect we’d not have seen in above 20 games in any case……sour grapes? You bet

[Guller Bull]

For those that are actually interested in rumours and links, Newsnow (as someone previously stated) is a good source.

https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Footb ... =mmenu-nav

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

If Cornet doesn’t have a reduction clause, then why would he want to go to Fulham on loan and earn the same money?

Surely after only just moving he might as well give us a season and see if we can go back up..

I don’t seen why he’d entertain it unless it was a permanent deal and an improvement on his salary..

Very confusing deal.

[Nori1958]

For those that are actually interested in rumours and links, Newsnow (as someone previously stated) is a good source.

https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Footb ... =mmenu-nav

Must have improved, it was crap years ago, I hadn't realised it was still going.

[aggi]

Then the release clause wasn’t triggered for it.

We agreed that.

Reporting at the time, including quotes directly from Dyche, said the clause was triggered.

Maybe Wood's agent was just particularly creative.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Must have improved, it was crap years ago, I hadn't realised it was still going.

That website works by, and always has worked by, using an algorithm to scan the internet for stories with ‘Burnley’ in the title or article body, it then pools them all in one place.

It’s basically a list of every article by every website that mentions us, in time order of upload.

It’s not possible for it to be ‘crap’.

It can only be that the rumors were ‘crap’ at the time.

[Newcastleclaret93]

If Cornet doesn’t have a reduction clause, then why would he want to go to Fulham on loan and earn the same money?

Surely after only just moving he might as well give us a season and see if we can go back up..

I don’t seen why he’d entertain it unless it was a permanent deal and an improvement on his salary..

Very confusing deal.

Gets back playing premier league football and puts himself in the shop window perhaps?

[Rileybobs]

If Cornet doesn’t have a reduction clause, then why would he want to go to Fulham on loan and earn the same money?

Surely after only just moving he might as well give us a season and see if we can go back up..

I don’t seen why he’d entertain it unless it was a permanent deal and an improvement on his salary..

Very confusing deal.

Well it’s quite likely he’d rather play in the Premier League than the Championship. It wouldn’t be a surprise if he’d rather live in London than Manchester. And how do you know he’ll be earning the same money at Fulham?

[lakedistrictclaret]

That website works by, and always has worked by, using an algorithm to scan the internet for stories with ‘Burnley’ in the title or article body, it then pools them all in one place.

It’s basically a list of every article by every website that mentions us, in time order of upload.

It’s not possible for it to be ‘crap’.

It can only be that the rumors were ‘crap’ at the time.

NewsNow has just added CT' s article about Waddle's latest signings twenty five years ago

[IanMcL]

Must have improved, it was crap years ago, I hadn't realised it was still going.

How can it be crap? It just collects all Burnley mentions, in one place. I would say that is a good thing.

[Nori1958]

How can it be crap? It just collects all Burnley mentions, in one place. I would say that is a good thing.

Quite simple... A lot of the sites it's getting articles from are unreliable... You might as well just type burnley into Google and throw a dart at what comes up.

[IanMcL]

Quite simple... A lot of the sites it's getting articles from are unreliable... You might as well just type burnley into Google and throw a dart at what comes up.

It is a central base for all Burnley info. Then you make a judgement, from the available sources. No harm done.

[warksclaret]

At times you need to take the chaff from the wheat. It is however a regular source of good info, and one I visit regularly

[Conroy92]

This doesn't make sense, the wage clause protects the club, the fee clause gives the player an out. You won't get one without the other.

Unfortunately the player is in the driving seat, of the player wants a release clause but doesn't want a wage reduction clause and the club want him then the club either offers what the player wants and gets him or we would never have had Max in the first place.
I would also add that the release clause can be seen as an out for the club as it should be low enough to attract interest with relative ease which gets the wages off the books.

To suggest you won't get one clause without the other is just not true.

[brunlea99]

Quite simple... A lot of the sites it's getting articles from are unreliable... You might as well just type burnley into Google and throw a dart at what comes up.

It was the first to publish the Maatsen link (from a Dutch website) before any other site.

[Nori1958]

It was the first to publish the Maatsen link (from a Dutch website) before any other site.

You'd have found it quicker typing burnley into twitter..... Each to their own, not worth an argument, there's enough of those.

[Lancasterclaret]

We can't afford to keep Cornet on his wages if there isn't a reduction

This deal does sound pretty good tbf if it comes off

[Duffer_]

No fee agreed for O'Hare but plenty still to be done...

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[AwayClaret]

Muric, O"Hare, Hendry and Delap. Jobs a good 'un

[Hedontplayforyou]

Throw Ugbo and McAtee in there for good measure and we are looking exciting at the very least

[Boxy]

joshua zirkzee Is available for less than €10m from bayern. We should be all over this !. Can't seem to get the photo posted

[It Is What It Is]

Christ…the incomings signed and incomings rumoured is like 60 minute makeover!.
Complete rebuild like Robocop.
Very very quick signings for pre season with just another 3 or 4 in the pipeline.
AP must have ( and should have ), complete faith in VK and his vision.
Good backing and good business so far from AP and the Board. Well Done.
Don’t you just love it though!!

[Hedontplayforyou]

Ajax were the club I remember being interested in Zirkzee.

You do wonder with the lack of rumours around a striker, whether or not we are waiting to see which of these actually become available and for what kind of deal. As you’d expect us to be all over Delap like a rash if he was possible. And someone like Zirkzee who has played for VK before and is also a prospect it does make you wonder if we are playing the long game with this particular position

[taio]

joshua zirkzee Is available for less than €10m from bayern. We should be all over this !. Can't seem to get the photo posted

I can't imagine he would want to play in the Championship and he will be playing top flight football in one of the European leagues with a salary reflecting that.

[NewClaret]

Ajax were the club I remember being interested in Zirkzee.

You do wonder with the lack of rumours around a striker, whether or not we are waiting to see which of these actually become available and for what kind of deal. As you’d expect us to be all over Delap like a rash if he was possible. And someone like Zirkzee who has played for VK before and is also a prospect it does make you wonder if we are playing the long game with this particular position

Hope we get a statement striker signing towards the end of the window. That would be the icing on what is already a brilliant summer cake.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Removed by myself message was for a different subject

[Hedontplayforyou]

Hope we get a statement striker signing towards the end of the window. That would be the icing on what is already a brilliant summer cake.

Have to agree, if we land O’Hare, keep McNeil, sign a quality keeper and then a shiny new striker of the Delap ilk it will be a very good window on paper.

I’m hoping for another surprise signing like McAtee to add to that list , it would be a fantastic window. But then it’s all down to the cohesion and how they gel as a side