Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[thomaspaine]

That Argentina side was the best I’ve ever seen and Kempes was unbelievable.

I think it’s quite well documented that Argentina were involved in financial skullduggery at that World Cup .

[dsr]

And that is how it should be. The best footballers can play in more than one position, some can play in many positions. A few can play in any position.The ideal is to have many players, hopefully eleven, who are comfortable on the ball in any area of the pitch. Unfortunately there is a simple solution ( 2 actually) to that tactic but hopefully there are few coaches who have found an answer to the conundrum. Or the players to play it well enough. Belief being an important aspect of any such player/plan. What I like is that VK seems to be collecting the players required and the players signing must have bought into the plan. Cornet has experience of playing in various areas of the pitch, some others if remaining will need to learn to expand their skill set. Exciting Times.

It certainly sounds better than last year, when there seemed to be a consensus that a left sided centre half can't play as a right sided centre half!

[Grimsdale]

Sudden burst of McNeil interest, articles.
Newcastle, Crystal Palace, West Ham.

Downside is only £15m quoted! We should keep him at anything less than £25m

I've been trying to track down where this £15m originated from and as far as I can tell it came from a purely speculative article from Lancs Live saying we "could decide to cash in if there is an offer in the region of £15million plus". It seems that other media outlets have taken this and turned it into the "fact" that we are willing to let him go for £15m. There was a similar article a month or so ago which led to stories of Palace looking to sign him for £10m.

They also usually add the "fact" that Dwight (or whoever we are meant to be offloading) wants to stay in the Premier League, despite there being no quotes attributed to this. Mind you, Sky Sports reporter Mark McAdam did say "When you think of how Jarrod Bowen and Declan Rice have improved under David Moyes, you wonder what he could do with McNeil, he'll be thinking, 'he can improve me as a player'" and who are we to question this reporter's mind reading abilities?

In short, I think Boden has this spot on, nothing more than "typical transfer mischief".

[elwaclaret]

Further still…

Full circle perhaps

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25055156

I was reading with interest to see if anyone would remember Jimmy Hogan, the real architect of it all. Top marks, go to the head of the class

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Can I ask if there are any Burnley transfer rumours today or are they now put on another thread?

Here's where we seem to be..

Most active deals..

Callum O'Hare
Bart Verbruggen

Rumours..

Liam Delap
Ike Ugbo
Mario Vušković

[Vegas Claret]

Delap just played the last 20 minutes for City against Club America. Reminds me of a younger more mobile Vokes, very similar running style.

[jojomk1]

Sudden burst of McNeil interest, articles.
Newcastle, Crystal Palace, West Ham.

Downside is only £15m quoted! We should keep him at anything less than £25m

Can't see why Palace would be that interested given they have Eze, Olise, Schlupp and Zaha

[Woodleyclaret]

Dwight is at a cross roads with his career .There are times when he failed to turn up and drifted aimlessly about in a cm role he can't play.
He is an out and out left winger, who on his day can beat defenders for fun and supply pinpoint crosses, leading to goals. The problem is Dwight is getting selective about the amount of times he puts in a shift. Perhaps he needs a serious talk with VC about his role in our shiny bright promotion winning team, certainly we are blessed now with serious talent in cm and Dwight may well have to move one Particularly if he doesn't fancy a wide left attacking berth that is his best position for us.

[arise_sir_charge]

Personally can’t recall Dwight playing CM last season at all.

[RVclaret]

Personally can’t recall Dwight playing CM last season at all.

Had a couple of games towards the back end when we played 5-3-2, Villa and Spurs away.

As for his best position, I disagree with WoodleyClaret, I think being stuck on the left wing no longer suits him and it’s his worst position. He will absolutely excel in Kompany’s 4-2-2-2 as an inside 10 from the right, very excited to see him there (he’s played there in pre season so far too).

[Woodleyclaret]

Can't agree Dwight can function in midfield as he's too one footed and can't tackle
Going forward and utilising his shooting power is one area that needs improvement However if its a money choice about selling Dwight or Max I am afraid for me Dwight gets sold .

[gandhisflipflop]

I have visions of Dwight picking the ball up in the inside number 10 position, Blackburn defenders shitting themselves as they have ohare to their right, roberts on the overlap, Bastien baring down on them and the fear of delap in behind. He beats one, faints to shoot but plays a lovely reverse ball to roberts who pulls it back from the byline for ohare to smash home past a rovers gk who is nearly crying as he picks the ball out of the net for the 5th time of the afternoon.

[RVclaret]

Can't agree Dwight can function in midfield as he's too one footed and can't tackle
Going forward and utilising his shooting power is one area that needs improvement However if its a money choice about selling Dwight or Max I am afraid for me Dwight gets sold .

Dwight made the 3rd highest tackles of any under 23 year old in Europe last season.

[Grimsdale]

Can't agree Dwight can function in midfield as he's too one footed and can't tackle

Dwight was 10th in the list of most successful tackles in the Premier League last season.

[NewClaret]

Personally can’t recall Dwight playing CM last season at all.

Nor can I but he drifted inside a lot and I’d say that’s where he lost his way. Out on the wing, especially the left, I thought he looked better personally.

I don’t expect Kompany to play with out and out wingers so I think RV is right about the inside 10 role.

I disagree that Dwight is selective about his work rate. No idea on the stats but imo he’s one of the hardest working on the pitch. But really, should your attacking talents be needing to do so much work, such that they’re shattered when we need them going forward? I think we’ve asked him to sacrifice himself too much. Credit to him for doing so but I’m excited to see what he could achieve in a more expansive team, so hope we can hold on to him.

[NewClaret]

Dwight made the 3rd highest tackles of any under 23 year old in Europe last season.

Wow

[scamander]

The difficulty Dwight has is that he is an old school winger who has learnt his trade predominantly on the left. Most clubs want inverted wingers, so a manager might be thinking whether he should spend the money to buy a player which he'll then have to get up to speed playing in another position.

Out of interest can anyone find a player anywhere who hasn't been linked with West Ham in the past two weeks?

[Zlatan]

I have visions of Dwight picking the ball up in the inside number 10 position, Blackburn defenders shitting themselves as they have ohare to their right, roberts on the overlap, Bastien baring down on them and the fear of delap in behind. He beats one, faints to shoot but plays a lovely reverse ball to roberts who pulls it back from the byline for ohare to smash home past a rovers gk who is nearly crying as he picks the ball out of the net for the 5th time of the afternoon.

If Carlsberg did away days...

[winsomeyen]

The difficulty Dwight has is that he is an old school winger who has learnt his trade predominantly on the left. Most clubs want inverted wingers, so a manager might be thinking whether he should spend the money to buy a player which he'll then have to get up to speed playing in another position.

Out of interest can anyone find a player anywhere who hasn't been linked with West Ham in the past two weeks?

Dale Stephens

[Red Fox Rocks Socks]

I have visions of Dwight picking the ball up in the inside number 10 position, Blackburn defenders shitting themselves as they have ohare to their right, roberts on the overlap, Bastien baring down on them and the fear of delap in behind. He beats one, faints to shoot but plays a lovely reverse ball to roberts who pulls it back from the byline for ohare to smash home past a rovers gk who is nearly crying as he picks the ball out of the net for the 5th time of the afternoon.

Love how specific this is. If I’m watching on 12th November and this starts happening I’m back on here for the lottery numbers

[Hipper]

It actually goes back a lot further than that. We ourselves pioneered "Total football" in the English leagues when we won the 1st division in 59/60.

What, Tommy Cummings on the wing?

[Hipper]

Dwight made the 3rd highest tackles of any under 23 year old in Europe last season.

Dwight was 10th in the list of most successful tackles in the Premier League last season.

Perhaps here is his problem. He needs a reset, like the whole team. He needs to get back to what he was good at.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Perhaps here is his problem. He needs a reset, like the whole team. He needs to get back to what he was good at.

Looks like he's good at tackling, despite claims by some

[TickTock]

Dwight is at a cross roads with his career .There are times when he failed to turn up and drifted aimlessly about in a cm role he can't play.
He is an out and out left winger, who on his day can beat defenders for fun and supply pinpoint crosses, leading to goals. The problem is Dwight is getting selective about the amount of times he puts in a shift. Perhaps he needs a serious talk with VC about his role in our shiny bright promotion winning team, certainly we are blessed now with serious talent in cm and Dwight may well have to move one Particularly if he doesn't fancy a wide left attacking berth that is his best position for us.

Your funny out and out left winger, its not as if dwight is and always has been a 10 its what hes best at technical accurate passer with no pace and as a result his entire academy career he was trained as a 10 Dyche shoehorned him into a winger. I think its quite arrogant for you to act like you know whats best for him as an individual who probably has no personal relationship with him.

[Firthy]

So now the rumour thread has turned into a discussion about the pros and cons of Dwight McNeil

[Swizzlestick]

Think some people need to realise that conversations can be fluid. The discussion about McNeil's attributes is due to the fact he was linked with two clubs yesterday and how his potential sale would impact the team. The discussion, as far as I can see is, polite with no 'bickering'. I get it can get annoying sometimes, and that should rightly be called out but constant policing of the forum is tiresome.

[Goobs]

Personally I'm getting a little bored of seeing posts on here complaining about people moaning over the discussions going off topic.

[Lancasterclaret]

Certainly looking forward to see how we line up in that first game

[Ric_C]

Southampton strike deal for Striker

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1550014 ... EQQv6Ed6Cw

Is that them moving on from Delap?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Southampton strike deal for Striker

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1550014 ... EQQv6Ed6Cw

Is that them moving on from Delap?

Fingers crossed.
Interesting comment/claim there about Newcastle hoping to get the player on the cheap whilst Southampton have just done the deal which helps the selling club ..

[warksclaret]

Do we have a new GK yet ??

[KRBFC]

Think some people need to realise that conversations can be fluid. The discussion about McNeil's attributes is due to the fact he was linked with two clubs yesterday and how his potential sale would impact the team. The discussion, as far as I can see is, polite with no 'bickering'. I get it can get annoying sometimes, and that should rightly be called out but constant policing of the forum is tiresome.

I'll add to this, if people want only links to click on, zero discussion. Here's newsnow

https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Footb ... ey?type=ln

[Pearcey]

Nixon just tweeted that we’re still chasing O’Hare but haven’t agreed a fee.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Nixon just tweeted that we’re still chasing O’Hare but haven’t agreed a fee.

Beyond bored of this saga. Time to pay up or move on now. We don't have weeks to spend shaving off a few hundred grand.

[Lancasterclaret]

Beyond bored of this saga. Time to pay up or move on now. We don't have weeks to spend shaving off a few hundred grand.

Don't think its a few hundred grand tbf

[Robbo1882]

Do we think there is a possibility of Danny Ings making a return to Burnley? no rumours just seems to be out of favor at Villa?

[randomclaret2]

Do we think there is a possibility of Danny Ings making a return to Burnley? no rumours just seems to be out of favor at Villa?

I wouldnt think so.

[Rileybobs]

Do we think there is a possibility of Danny Ings making a return to Burnley? no rumours just seems to be out of favor at Villa?

Yes I do. I think there’s zero possibility.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Don't think its a few hundred grand tbf

If it's more than a few hundred grand then we're miles apart and should have moved on already.

[daveisaclaret]

Beyond bored of this saga. Time to pay up or move on now. We don't have weeks to spend shaving off a few hundred grand.

We do have weeks to do it tbf

[randomclaret2]

We do have weeks to do it tbf

We do have weeks till the Transfer Window closes but we also have 7 games to play in that time

[RVclaret]

We do have weeks till the Transfer Window closes but we also have 7 or 8 games to play in that time

And there is the risk that we start poorly / Cov start well and 1. They bump up the price 2. He doesn’t want to come

[daveisaclaret]

We do have weeks till the Transfer Window closes but we also have 7 or 8 games to play in that time

It'd be nice to have O'Hare in for the first game, but it'd be downright silly to move on from him just because he'd miss the first few games. We've got the time to make it happen.

[tiger76]

Do we think there is a possibility of Danny Ings making a return to Burnley? no rumours just seems to be out of favor at Villa?

What makes you think Danny is out of favour at Villa, he played and scored in their pre season win over Leeds recently.

As for a return to Burnley no chance. if we were still in the Prem perhaps, but he won't drop down to the Championship and nor should he.

[gawthorpe_view]

Certainly looking forward to see how we line up in that first game

I'm just glad they'll have their names on the back of their shirt
I'll be paying very close attention to them on tv away at Udders.

[Rowls]

Strange that they had to manufacture a 6-1 win against a side with an Argentinian keeper. Holland were without Cruyff as he had received death threats. Good team but not great.

Spot on. All orchestrated by a military dictatorship too.

[Boss Hogg]

And there is the risk that we start poorly / Cov start well and 1. They bump up the price 2. He doesn’t want to come

Or we have McNeil and/or Cornet for the first few games or even beyond in which case we might not need him either.

[RVclaret]

Or we have McNeil and/or Cornet for the first few games or even beyond in which case we might not need him either.

Don’t think Cornet has played a single minute in pre season games, so quite unlikely he’ll be match fit for the first games

[joey13]

What makes you think Danny is out of favour at Villa, he played and scored in their pre season win over Leeds recently.

As for a return to Burnley no chance. if we were still in the Prem perhaps, but he won't drop down to the Championship and nor should he.

He is out of favour, but won’t come to us , maybe Brighton they like injury prone forwards.

[SalisburyClaret]

Spot on. All orchestrated by a military dictatorship too.

Corruption at a World Cup - surely that's not possible is it...