Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[Big Vinny K]

Shame what’s happened to JBG for him and for us as fans. He was a very good signing and I enjoyed watching him.

Unfortunately his injuries have been pretty horrendous in last few years and that’s what he’s become known for.
At the moment any one we sign with a pair of boots and who is fit will be an upgrade !

Clearly we need to sign a bit of quality who can start for us in a wide position. But hopefully JBG will be able to contribute in some way this season before his contract and stay with us comes to an end and we can see some glimpses of the player we saw in the first few years before his injuries.

[warksclaret]

Interesting that I saw several Oxford fans say that Luke McNally is better than Rob Dickie was for them when they sold him to QPR, and that he has a higher ceiling - time will tell, of course.

My friend who is a season ticket holder for Oxford FC re-iterated to me the weekend that McNally had outgrown Division 1, and was a real talent.We may have a great investment here

[jedi_master]

Hopefully we can get Benson in by Friday to provide something on the bench for us.

Assuming we have no intention of playing Cornet, and with Twine and Gudmundsson being weirdly absent from anything game wise, we have very limited attacking options outside our first eleven currently (once again…).

[RVclaret]

Hopefully we can get Benson in by Friday to provide something on the bench for us.

Assuming we have no intention of playing Cornet, and with Twine and Gudmundsson being weirdly absent from anything game wise, we have very limited attacking options outside our first eleven currently (once again…).

Didn’t you say you were very impressed with Tucker at Shrewsbury? Could he be an option?

[jedi_master]

Didn’t you say you were very impressed with Tucker at Shrewsbury? Could he be an option?

I think he’d have to be with the way squad currently is. He did do well and clearly Kompany likes the look of him as he got more game time than the other kids (bar Thomas). Whether that’s through genuine belief he can contribute in the first team this season or simply due to the lack of any options at all in the attacking midfield/striker areas remains to be seen.

[brexit]

We keep talking about needing a striker is Richardson fit? if so is he good enough to play?

[kenyon6923]

We keep talking about needing a striker is Richardson fit? if so is he good enough to play?

He deserves a chance for sure, IF the season becomes a mid table stability one then the younger players get more time to progress which is not a bad thing.

[CoolClaret]

He’s a CM

Apologies- for some reason I thought the tweet indicated he was a forward player

[123EasyasBFC]

Report genk have agreed 4mil euro with Troyes for ugbo so that might put to bed that rumour, only actually saw one reporter say we was in for him tbf

[Belgianclaret]

Hopefully we can get Benson in by Friday to provide something on the bench for us.

Assuming we have no intention of playing Cornet, and with Twine and Gudmundsson being weirdly absent from anything game wise, we have very limited attacking options outside our first eleven currently (once again…).

To be honest I'm not so convinced by Benson. Has plenty of quality but a bit lightweight and I'm not sure he'll deliver in the championship.

[NewClaret]

To be honest I'm not so convinced by Benson. Has plenty of quality but a bit lightweight and I'm not sure he'll deliver in the championship.

Definitely a risk, I would say.

It does feel like we are targeting players with one year left on their contract at the moment so can only assume without further sales we can’t buy.

Just wish we’d go for Delap on loan and then we look in pretty good shape.

[KRBFC]

To be honest I'm not so convinced by Benson. Has plenty of quality but a bit lightweight and I'm not sure he'll deliver in the championship.

he's shite but cheap so he'll be signed

[RVclaret]

he's shite but cheap so he'll be signed

What a bizarre take

[123EasyasBFC]

To be honest I'm not so convinced by Benson. Has plenty of quality but a bit lightweight and I'm not sure he'll deliver in the championship.

Don’t understand the lightweight part, McNeil is very Lightweight and pushed off the ball easily and JBG gets injured whenever someone comes within a yard of him, can’t say I know anything about benson but if he’s quick and beat a man it’s something different to what we already have

[KRBFC]

What a bizarre take

Not as bizarre as your takes, you've never seen him play but you're delighted for him to be replacing Cornet.

[lrac]

he's shite but cheap so he'll be signed

How do you know ?.just asking

[RVclaret]

Not as bizarre as your takes, you've never seen him play but you're delighted for him to be replacing Cornet.

Find where I’ve said I’m delighted for him to be replacing Cornet.

But given Cornet would likely be a striker for Kompany I don’t think a winger / attacking midfielder would be his replacement regardless.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Weird that someone who puts nothing into the club and his idea of supporting the club is stealing illegal streams of games for nothing is the one who demands we spend more and more

[nyclaret]

he's shite but cheap so he'll be signed

Why don’t Burnley just hire you as a scout? You seem to have a wealth of scouting knowledge.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Bring on Friday , then some will either have a major meltdown or go way over the top, can’t wait

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

What a bizarre take

Would be if it was someone else saying it.

[Big Vinny K]

KRBFC Scout Summary Report for Mr Kompany

Benson - shite
Twine - bit shite
Muric - dog shite
Harwood Bellis - probably shite
Delap - his dad was shite
Brownhill - King of Dog Shite (see Leeds away game)

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Report genk have agreed 4mil euro with Troyes for ugbo so that might put to bed that rumour, only actually saw one reporter say we was in for him tbf

Seems a bargain really. Maybe he’s said he wants to stay in Europe.

[KRBFC]

KRBFC Scout Summary Report for Mr Kompany

Benson - shite
Twine - bit shite
Muric - dog shite
Harwood Bellis - probably shite
Delap - his dad was shite
Brownhill - King of Dog Shite (see Leeds away game)

Wrong, Twine's a great signing, I haven't seen Muric but happy with that one, Delap would be a beast, shame THB is only a loan. But you keep up the new fangirl approach, probably a new account of an old fan.

[Bowclaret]

Strange thing to say from KRBFC.

I’m new to this forum but a long term reader.

Comments like his will make me go elsewhere again !

[ClaretAL]

Some people are just angry we are not in the Premier League as we were when they first started supporting ( I say supporting very loosely) us, so now nothing will do until we are back in the Premiere League, and that exemplifies on to this message board.

[KRBFC]

Some people are just angry we are not in the Premier League as we were when they first started supporting ( I say supporting very loosely) us, so now nothing will do until we are back in the Premiere League, and that exemplifies on to this message board.

At least get your patronising comments correct, we were newly promoted to the 2nd tier when I started supporting/attending.

[Woodleyclaret]

Are we doing the my supports bigger than your support again? This is getting tedious.

[whiffa]

Just put KRBFC on your "Foe" list and move on, this thread descending into turmoil again. Stop rising too it, you know what's he's like.
Is there any actual transfer news this week? Tired of watching handbags swinging around.

[It Is What It Is]

Let's get one optimism back.
Final Table May 2023.
1. Burnley. P46. W46. D0. L0. F100. A2(pens). PTS 138

[spt_claret]

His ideas on football will be based on how Pep sets up and plays, even if not identical. He has already told the squad that it will take time, and the reason it will take time is because it isn't easy.
You need to know your position on the pitch, relative to your teammates. With or without the ball.
If you leave your zone someone has to replace you, by the same token if a teammate enters your zone, you may have to leave.
You have to learn how to pass, the right angle to protect the ball, the right weight of pass to keep the ball, but also be able to maintain control of it.
You have to learn not only how to press, but when to press, as a team, and as an individual.
When we get it right we could look like the Harlem Globetrotters, but before we get there, there will be times when we look like a salmon flopping about in a puddle.

I don't believe, because of the difficulties ahead, that VK will let himself be hand-tied by player profiles. He will pick the players that learn the system quickest.

You're massively over-intellectualising the concept of a VK system just as many people do with Guardiola, whose system modifies and draws on ideas from Cruyff, the Magical Magyars of the 50s and old WM formations with the added application of modern data science and fitness coaching.

Zonal marking and fluid positioning is not a new concept. Total Football style complete fluidity is extremely difficult to achieve and is tactically demanding, certainly. But experienced players will have played under multiple managers and formations and teams. You could argue that experienced players might be more set in their ways, or that they may have been overcoached in Dyche's system- but this firstly ignores that Dyche did tweak his system over the years, second ignores the capacity for professional footballers to use their experience and adapt, thirdly ignores that young players with less experience are likely to have been trained in fewer systems so find it even harder to adapt or,even if they have been trained in the VK/Pep system in the City academy, to know how to respond if the system isn't working. If a system is so complex and demanding that seasoned premier league footballers can't figure it out then maybe you want a system that doesn't narrow your player options so much. Overcomplicating is as bad as oversimplifying.

Passing is a skill literally every footballer learns. Some are better than others but neither Guardiola not Kompany invented passing. Ditto pressing- and from 2014-2017 we pressed like hell. Neither of these are beyond our players.

Dyche's biggest problem was reluctance to adapt formations or setups as much as he could- things did change and adjust more than most critics recognise, but I'd agree less than needed and especially as budgets squeezed we became increasingly squeezed in approaches too. Kompany might well have a system he favours, but there is still a danger in wedding too tightly to that system, no matter how successful it might be with City, because ultimately no one system is perfect for all teams at all resource levels against all opponents. The best managers don't just adapt their team to their system, but their system to the best players they have. All this talk of the VK System and the need to focus everything on fresh faces who he can mould from the off runs the risk of mythologising his system before it starts and leading us right back to "sticking to the framework" and overcoaching in a new way, before that framework has even been built. Especially when, as discussed,that system is an exceptionally demanding one for even the best and most rounded players. And then if it doesn't get results the people who mythologised it will be the ones to turn on it. We need to be able to do more than one system as the last couple years should have taught us, but especially if that system is highly demanding and our budget means many of our players are with the greatest respect likely to either be limited, or slight jack of all trades, compared to the other clubs who employ similar systems like City.

[2 Bee Holed]

Strange thing to say from KRBFC.

I’m new to this forum but a long term reader.

Comments like his will make me go elsewhere again !

Crikey!

Toodle pip, old boy.

[fatboy47]

Crikey!

Toodle pip, old boy.

Yup.

Off ya pop!

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

Let's get one optimism back.
Final Table May 2023.
1. Burnley. P46. W46. D0. L0. F100. A2(pens). PTS 138

They were never pens in a million years!!

[joey13]

Strange thing to say from KRBFC.

I’m new to this forum but a long term reader.

Comments like his will make me go elsewhere again !

Ha ha , quality.

[jedi_master]

People are allowed to voice opinions in the positive light, yet constantly dived upon when in the negative. I have had disagreements with KRBFC often historically, but he’s just saying what he thinks having seen the player in question. How many of us have done?

Belgiumclaret clearly has and says he wouldn’t suit the Championship, in his opinion - that’s more valid than people like me going ‘hopefully we sign him this week and get him on the bench’ as I’ve not seen the guy from Adam bar the obligatory YouTube clips. I will say, the only discussion I can find of him on Twitter is a group of Standard Liege fans disappointed they aren’t in for him themselves.

I’ve no doubt any dissenting voices as to the quality of the player in question will support him when he pulls the shirt on (should we sign him!).

[wilks_bfc]

They were never pens in a million years!!

If only we had VAR

[KRBFC]

People are allowed to voice opinions in the positive light, yet constantly dived upon when in the negative. I have had disagreements with KRBFC often historically, but he’s just saying what he thinks having seen the player in question. How many of us have done?

Belgiumclaret clearly has and says he wouldn’t suit the Championship, in his opinion - that’s more valid than people like me going ‘hopefully we sign him this week and get him on the bench’ as I’ve not seen the guy from Adam bar the obligatory YouTube clips. I will say, the only discussion I can find of him on Twitter is a group of Standard Liege fans disappointed they aren’t in for him themselves.

I’ve no doubt any dissenting voices as to the quality of the player in question will support him when he pulls the shirt on (should we sign him!).

I've praised our recruits so far, I said the other day we're 2 or 3 proven quality additions short, this isn't one imo. I'll support the guy regardless, like I will anyone who wears the shirt but I'd be very disappointed if he was replacing Cornet instead of someone like O'Hare. Would scream cheap option to me.

[Lancasterclaret]

I've never seen him play, but VK is a complete novice to the championship, and if this is someone he rates, rather than who the scouting teams rate, then its a concern

[RVclaret]

I've never seen him play, but VK is a complete novice to the championship, and if this is someone he rates, rather than who the scouting teams rate, then its a concern

Do you have inside knowledge that the scouting team doesn’t rate him?

[jedi_master]

I've praised our recruits so far, I said the other day we're 2 or 3 proven quality additions short, this isn't one imo. I'll support the guy regardless, like I will anyone who wears the shirt but I'd be very disappointed if he was replacing Cornet instead of someone like O'Hare. Would scream cheap option to me.

Just desperately need a minimum of one striker for me, and arguably a more experienced centre back.

[KRBFC]

Weird that someone who puts nothing into the club and his idea of supporting the club is stealing illegal streams of games for nothing is the one who demands we spend more and more

What on earth are you talking about? You have absolutely no idea how much I've bought/haven't bought, or how many games I've attended/haven't attended. Your typical petty off topic contribution, you're a weird chap.

Middle aged men, chasing around a ''14 year old boy'' online as you put it. What does that make you? You're intent on arguing with a 14 year old kid online, insulting a 14 year old kid online. Is that not strange to you?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Just desperately need a minimum of one striker for me, and arguably a more experienced centre back.

I personally think we need at least 1 CB (with experience), 2 x wingers (advanced Midfielders if cornet and McNeil go), 2 strikers.

Strikers are critical at this point. Struggling to see where the goals are going to come from at the moment.

[Lancasterclaret]

Do you have inside knowledge that the scouting team doesn’t rate him?

Not at all, but he's a 25 year player from the Belgian league with a pretty average goal scoring record

He might be amazing, he might be just what we need, but its a gamble at a couple of million, and its a huge gamble at more than that

[claretonthecoast1882]

What on earth are you talking about? You have absolutely no idea how much I've bought/haven't bought, or how many games I've attended/haven't attended. Your typical petty off topic contribution, you're a weird chap.

Middle aged men, chasing around a ''14 year old boy'' online as you put it. What does that make you? You're intent on arguing with a 14 year old kid online, insulting a 14 year old kid online. Is that not strange to you?

[SkiptonClaret]

I personally think we need at least 1 CB (with experience), 2 x wingers (advanced Midfielders if cornet and McNeil go), 2 strikers.

Strikers are critical at this point. Struggling to see where the goals are going to come from at the moment.

Ash is going to bag 20 easily (apparently).

[Paul Waine]

Strange thing to say from KRBFC.

I’m new to this forum but a long term reader.

Comments like his will make me go elsewhere again !

Welcome to UpTheClarets, Bowclaret. New posters are always welcome.

[RVclaret]

Not at all, but he's a 25 year player from the Belgian league with a pretty average goal scoring record

He might be amazing, he might be just what we need, but its a gamble at a couple of million, and its a huge gamble at more than that

He’s a winger, not a striker. Goal contribution (goal or assist) at under 1 in 2 last season. Reports linking him this summer with Schalke, Lyon and Marseille:

https://www.dhnet.be/sports/football/di ... 2GW4ZTY6M/

Admittedly, I’ve never seen him play but at least let’s present some balance rather than KRBFC’s ‘he’s shite and cheap’, or that it’s ‘only Kompany who wants him and therefore crap’ insinuation.

[Lancasterclaret]

Ash is going to bag 20 easily (apparently).

He never managed that when he was good though

At least I don't think he did

Its a big ask

[claretonthecoast1882]

You're such a loser, sit here desperate for responses from a 14 year old kid. How do you think that's funny? sort your behaviour out, you're an adult.