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Post by BennyD » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:36 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:26 pm
Wind up merchant.
Not at all. How can a new manager that has played at the highest level, selecting young, energetic, players with a completely different style of play be compared to SD? Don't get me wrong, I still think SD is great (and always will) but, despite all his successes with us, the timing was right for him to move on.

The wind up merchant is DA for making facetious comparisons before the season has even started. Tbf, you don't smell of roses either if you think DA is a paragon of virtue.

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Post by ynot » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:37 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:14 pm
Dont think so, there's a few in the first 11 that weren't even at the club last season so cant be that pal.
The players that were here last year have the same numbers, the new players have taken the numbers of players that have left

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:40 pm

Longsider wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:02 pm
The recurring theme is players with 12 months left on their contract. Shrewd work at getting some good deals in. This lad could be another gem. .. hopefully
I am an avid Inter Milan follower when I am not watching Burnley and Karamoh would be well worth taking a chance on for us. On his day he is outstanding, but he has always struggled with consistency. Maybe, it will come with experience.

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Post by Gunfury » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:40 pm

Double whoosh for BennyD
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:52 pm

28 numbers there, without McNally. Is there a squad limit in the Championship?
Was Muric #49 at City or is he allergic to 1?

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Post by Cap » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:56 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:52 pm
28 numbers there, without McNally. Is there a squad limit in the Championship?
Was Muric #49 at City or is he allergic to 1?
I assume that there is a 25 man limit but players under a certain age don't count (I think anyway)
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Post by BigChaCha » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:16 pm

Wow, cant believe Kompany has Lowton, JBG & Barnes in his first 11. I thought it was going to be a new dawn but he looks like he might just be Dyche MkII
Is your carer on holiday? Just asking for a friend.
Not at all. How can a new manager that has played at the highest level, selecting young, energetic, players with a completely different style of play be compared to SD? Don't get me wrong, I still think SD is great (and always will) but, despite all his successes with us, the timing was right for him to move on.

The wind up merchant is DA for making facetious comparisons before the season has even started. Tbf, you don't smell of roses either if you think DA is a paragon of virtue.
Why get so rude, aggressive and wound up over a facetious comment? And why question and analyse a flippant comment like it's a serious commentary while simultaneously saying it was facetious?... That doesn't make any sense at all but not much does in here.

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:28 pm

BennyD wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:36 pm
Not at all. How can a new manager that has played at the highest level, selecting young, energetic, players with a completely different style of play be compared to SD? Don't get me wrong, I still think SD is great (and always will) but, despite all his successes with us, the timing was right for him to move on.

The wind up merchant is DA for making facetious comparisons before the season has even started. Tbf, you don't smell of roses either if you think DA is a paragon of virtue.
My WUM comment was referring to Devils Advocate, not yourself.

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Post by Selby Claret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:29 pm

ynot wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:37 pm
The players that were here last year have the same numbers, the new players have taken the numbers of players that have left
J-Rod has moved to No. 9...

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Post by Selby Claret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:32 pm

Thomas and McGlynn have changed numbers too - just saying :)

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Post by dsr » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:36 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:16 pm
Why get so rude, aggressive and wound up over a facetious comment? And why question and analyse a flippant comment like it's a serious commentary while simultaneously saying it was facetious?... That doesn't make any sense at all but not much does in here.
No need to worry about being rude to DA. He posts anything and everything in hopes of getting people to take him seriously. If someone's rude he does a little cartwheel round the room in celebration that he has, in his small (very small) way, made the world an unhappier place.

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:00 pm

James Nursey saying we are preparing a new bid for O’Hare
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Post by DCWat » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:03 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:00 pm
James Nursey saying we are preparing a new bid for O’Hare
Seemingly operating hand to mouth.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:04 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:03 pm
Seemingly operating hand to mouth.
as are the majority of teams (and tbh a lot of folk in the world)
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:07 pm

FGS. His handle, Devils Advocate, isn’t hiding much. He posts just enough sense to get folk wound up when he goes fishing. Calm guys, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:09 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:07 pm
FGS. His handle, Devils Advocate, isn’t hiding much. He posts just enough sense to get folk wound up when he goes fishing. Calm guys, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I like his posts, they are amusing if you don't take them in any way personally.
People need to chill.
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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:09 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:03 pm
Seemingly operating hand to mouth.
I think this why they’re keen to get players who are probably going to leave out. They may have a striker who will cost £10m-£15m but need to make sure players are out of the door first.
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Post by Top Claret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:10 pm

dsr wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:36 pm
No need to worry about being rude to DA. He posts anything and everything in hopes of getting people to take him seriously. If someone's rude he does a little cartwheel round the room in celebration that he has, in his small (very small) way, made the world an unhappier place.

Anyone who isn't retired who is always posting on here must be pretty sad and I would think that is what DA is

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Post by jedi_master » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:10 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:00 pm
James Nursey saying we are preparing a new bid for O’Hare
This is needed now, a bit of optimism/buzz back after a big sale. We need to make a statement signing in my opinion (no criticism of the lads we’ve already brought in that, but they are risks/gambles for the most part).

The sadness some of us (although it seems very few, though I’m one of them) feel at Dwight leaving would be remedied by seeing that Kompany is getting a good deal of extra wiggle room off the back of the sale.

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:14 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:00 pm
James Nursey saying we are preparing a new bid for O’Hare
Love the “preparing” phase.

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Post by jedi_master » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:17 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:14 pm
Love the “preparing” phase.
Yes a bit weird isn’t it. What is there to prepare? Surely it’s just an email or a phone call.

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:21 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:17 pm
Yes a bit weird isn’t it. What is there to prepare? Surely it’s just an email or a phone call.
They should do a fly-on-the-wall Netflix episode at a football club showing how they “prepare” bids and all the hard work/preparation that’s involved. Would love to see it!

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Post by warksclaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:54 pm

How hard can you make it. In my time I have moved house 7 times. Each time I made an initial offer, obviously below the price. Each time it was rejected, but from that, and from frank feedback from the seller, I instantly knew where I needed to be with my next offer. And you know what I managed to complete on all 7. We should now know exactly what Coventry want for O'Hara, and with a good fee coming in from Dwight need to get it over the line. If Coventry are taking the Mick, we should know by now and move on. The guy obviously wants to join us

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:07 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:54 pm
How hard can you make it. In my time I have moved house 7 times. Each time I made an initial offer, obviously below the price. Each time it was rejected, but from that, and from frank feedback from the seller, I instantly knew where I needed to be with my next offer. And you know what I managed to complete on all 7. We should now know exactly what Coventry want for O'Hara, and with a good fee coming in from Dwight need to get it over the line. If Coventry are taking the Mick, we should know by now and move on. The guy obviously wants to join us
I have an inkling that the "good fee coming in from Dwight" might see Coventry raising their original price by a million or two.
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Post by warksclaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:09 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:07 pm
I have an inkling that the "good fee coming in from Dwight" might see Coventry raising their original price by a million or two.
I think you are spot on. It might have been worth offering a bit more a few weeks ago

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:13 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:09 pm
I think you are spot on. It might have been worth offering a bit more a few weeks ago
Difficult one. Possibly we had to sell before we could meet the fee (although we surely would have known that deals for McNeil or Cornet would be done).

Now with us having a greater need to buy and the cash from the sale, Coventry hold the advantage in the negotiations.

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:13 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:07 pm
I have an inkling that the "good fee coming in from Dwight" might see Coventry raising their original price by a million or two.
What, above the £10m they’re already expecting? :? :shock:

The money rumoured for him is crazy and presumably out of our league since VK said yesterday we have to buy cheap players.

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Post by fatboy47 » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:14 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:54 pm
How hard can you make it. In my time I have moved house 7 times. Each time I made an initial offer, obviously below the price. Each time it was rejected, but from that, and from frank feedback from the seller, I instantly knew where I needed to be with my next offer. And you know what I managed to complete on all 7. We should now know exactly what Coventry want for O'Hara, and with a good fee coming in from Dwight need to get it over the line. If Coventry are taking the Mick, we should know by now and move on. The guy obviously wants to join us
Playing hard-ball I guess?

As opposed to..

"" Hi.. Is that Mr Pace?... Would you take £9m for Nick Pope? ""
"" Hmm Can you make it 10?""
""Yes..send him round for a medical this aft" "
" "OK" "

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Post by Steddyman » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:18 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:21 pm
They should do a fly-on-the-wall Netflix episode at a football club showing how they “prepare” bids and all the hard work/preparation that’s involved. Would love to see it!
Our manager is Vincent Kompany, it has probably already started filming.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:51 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:07 pm
I have an inkling that the "good fee coming in from Dwight" might see Coventry raising their original price by a million or two.
That's one reason why Villa got a lot of their transfers done before selling Grealish.

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:52 pm

We don't really know what the initial offer was, so its all guess work.
Like most I don't know much about O'Hare, but 10mill is a hell of a gamble imo. He's had a good season but that isn't enough to break the bank. There had to be better, cheaper options abroad. If we could get him for 6 plus add ons fair enough, but if that isn't enough we need to move on.

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:57 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:13 pm
What, above the £10m they’re already expecting?...The money rumoured for him is crazy and presumably out of our league...
I don't know about it being 'out of our league' but I too think that it's 'crazy'; I don't think O'Hare's done/shown enough at this moment to justify his reported price tag and if it's true/non-negotiable I would be more than happy for us to look elsewhere. Using our limited resources to taking a punt on a (indeed several) promising youngster at £2 or £3M is one thing, but at ten million?

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:42 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:57 pm
I don't know about it being 'out of our league' but I too think that it's 'crazy'; I don't think O'Hare's done/shown enough at this moment to justify his reported price tag and if it's true/non-negotiable I would be more than happy for us to look elsewhere. Using our limited resources to taking a punt on a (indeed several) promising youngster at £2 or £3M is one thing, but at ten million?
No way we should be paying £10m as you say, just watched a few clips of josh bowler, a very able replacement for mcneil, sure he'd be available for a fraction of that price, and can use he's right foot to boot 😂coin a phrase. And decent stats.

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Post by Quicknick » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:54 pm

He looks extremely good to me. For some reason I kept getting Coventry matches appear in my YouTube feed. I can see why VK wants him. At 7M plus ad-ons, I don't think it could be categorised as 'taking a punt'.

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Post by mybloodisclaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:31 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:42 pm
No way we should be paying £10m as you say, just watched a few clips of josh bowler, a very able replacement for mcneil, sure he'd be available for a fraction of that price, and can use he's right foot to boot 😂coin a phrase. And decent stats.
Been posted earlier Bowler on his way to ewood for 2.3 mil. We should be all over that. Very good player at the Championship level and would strengthen them (or us) massively. Something we should def get involved in. Not only get a very tidy player but that lot would go nuts.

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Post by burnmark » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:33 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:31 pm
Been posted earlier Bowler on his way to ewood for 2.3 mil. We should be all over that. Very good player at the Championship level and would strengthen them (or us) massively. Something we should def get involved in. Not only get a very tidy player but that lot would go nuts.
Linked with Bournemouth also.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:50 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:52 pm
We don't really know what the initial offer was, so its all guess work.
Like most I don't know much about O'Hare, but 10mill is a hell of a gamble imo. He's had a good season but that isn't enough to break the bank. There had to be better, cheaper options abroad. If we could get him for 6 plus add ons fair enough, but if that isn't enough we need to move on.
If you look at the expenditure & the incoming spent we could literally afford a PL player & the wages on top whether that player would come is irrelevant but the finances would allow that, you are talking well over 50 mil transfers alone never mind the wages saved on top. We should be at point really if a player wanted to come on a relatively modest transfer fee including short term even higher excess wages would cover what’s been accrued in outgoing transfers & saved wages. An awful lot of money seems to be going somewhere with nothing really to show for it.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:54 pm

Admittedly didn’t see him too often, but on the occasions I did see him, that Bowler at Blackpool looked total shite. Playground footballer, tried to beat every man, constantly lost the ball, absolutely no awareness. I may be wrong but I wasn’t at all impressed.
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Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:54 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:50 pm
If you look at the expenditure & the incoming spent we could literally afford a PL player & the wages on top whether that player would come is irrelevant but the finances would allow that, you are talking well over 50 mil transfers alone never mind the wages saved on top. We should be at point really if a player wanted to come on a relatively modest transfer fee including short term even higher excess wages would cover what’s been accrued in outgoing transfers & saved wages. An awful lot of money seems to be going somewhere with nothing really to show for it.
Wonder where that somewhere might be ?

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Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:55 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:54 pm
Admittedly didn’t see him too often, but on the occasions I did see him, that Bowler at Blackpool looked total shite. Playground footballer, tried to beat every man, constantly lost the ball, absolutely no awareness. I may be wrong but I wasn’t at all impressed.
Sounds ideal for Ewood

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:08 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:50 pm
If you look at the expenditure & the incoming spent we could literally afford a PL player & the wages on top whether that player would come is irrelevant but the finances would allow that, you are talking well over 50 mil transfers alone never mind the wages saved on top. We should be at point really if a player wanted to come on a relatively modest transfer fee including short term even higher excess wages would cover what’s been accrued in outgoing transfers & saved wages. An awful lot of money seems to be going somewhere with nothing really to show for it.
How much we have raised is irrelevant, its about how much a player who's never played in the Prem, and had one ok season is worth. For 10mill we could buy someone with a lot more experience, or a lot greater pedigree. I just don't think he's worth that kind of risk. I might be wrong, but it's a lot of money to gamble.

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Post by Father Jack » Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:13 pm

Coventry rumour is that Lewis Richardson is being included as a make-weight in the deal for us to sign O’hare.
Two fans citing the same rumour. Then a lot of nonsense afterwards
Doesn’t sound right to me but putting it out there

https://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/ ... on.144028/

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Post by It Is What It Is » Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:15 pm

What's happening at City with Delap?

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Post by Jimscho » Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:16 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:50 pm
If you look at the expenditure & the incoming spent we could literally afford a PL player & the wages on top whether that player would come is irrelevant but the finances would allow that, you are talking well over 50 mil transfers alone never mind the wages saved on top. We should be at point really if a player wanted to come on a relatively modest transfer fee including short term even higher excess wages would cover what’s been accrued in outgoing transfers & saved wages. An awful lot of money seems to be going somewhere with nothing really to show for it.
Where do you get well over 50 mil from.You do realise we still owe money to Stoke for Collins plus any sell on clause.Mcneil possibly under 20 mil plus add ons.Pope maybe 10-15mil.Cornet not sold yet.We have got 9 new players some of which we have paid for.Not a lot of your 50 mil going to be left.

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Post by warksclaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:20 pm

We paid £12m I believe for Nathan Collins who played 39 games for Stoke City over two seasons in the Championship.O'Hara seems to be as well thought of, if not more in the Championship, so a fee around £9m/£10m not so ridiculous
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Post by jedi_master » Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:23 pm

Father Jack wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:13 pm
Coventry rumour is that Lewis Richardson is being included as a make-weight in the deal for us to sign O’hare.
Two fans citing the same rumour. Then a lot of nonsense afterwards
Doesn’t sound right to me but putting it out there

https://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/ ... on.144028/
I believe the poster in question is a notorious producer of fake rumours for ‘banter’ and ‘mirth’. There isn’t a lot to do in Coventry unfortunately other than visit Binley Mega Chippy as a monthly Giro-enabled treat, reminisce about the good old days of owning their own ground and concoct such ******** on the Internet.

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Post by claretburns » Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:25 pm

Jimscho wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:16 pm
Where do you get well over 50 mil from.You do realise we still owe money to Stoke for Collins plus any sell on clause.Mcneil possibly under 20 mil plus add ons.Pope maybe 10-15mil.Cornet not sold yet.We have got 9 new players some of which we have paid for.Not a lot of your 50 mil going to be left.
Also being reported we received £3 million up front for Pope now then £2.33 million per year until the fee is paid.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:26 pm

Start a rumour on their board that its O'Hare plus £2 million for Richardson
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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:12 pm

Jimscho wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:16 pm
Where do you get well over 50 mil from.You do realise we still owe money to Stoke for Collins plus any sell on clause.Mcneil possibly under 20 mil plus add ons.Pope maybe 10-15mil.Cornet not sold yet.We have got 9 new players some of which we have paid for.Not a lot of your 50 mil going to be left.
We’ve got 12.5 from CW minus WW & 50 from the other 3 I realise it will be staggered payments & money owed to stoke etc, it’s fair to say this because the money spent on our new additions will be staggered also, it’s not a case of let burnley wait for their money but burnley need to pay upfront straightaway for everything, the money should be there to be committed at least 20 million.

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