Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:02 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:59 pm
Agree.

Maybe, although I think Bastien is better further up the pitch

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:05 pm

FC Bruges are apparently selling defender N'Soki to Hoffenheim.
May affect sale of Hendry, depends to be seen

GrahamBranchsPerm · Post by **GrahamBranchsPerm** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:09 pm

Yeah, I do feel covered now in Mid, will defo have to max and match a bit over the season, but that's normal, and keep the squad interested.

Rumours - would really like Sepp. Very rated.

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willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:45 pm

Cabral would be tremendous!

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:55 pm

The flexibilty on Friday showed there is nothing to fear from losing one of the Cork, Cullen, Brownhill, Bastien quartet. Losing two could be problematic. When Westy is fit we have real competition for places in there.
Goal scoring Striker is key to a great season. CB seems to be high up on the wish list but with the cover provided on Friday not essential.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:55 pm

Heard this morning that a couple “out of the blue” are expected.

No idea if that includes Benson or Cabral, mind.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:03 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:55 pm
The flexibilty on Friday showed there is nothing to fear from losing one of the Cork, Cullen, Brownhill, Bastien quartet. Losing two could be problematic. When Westy is fit we have real competition for places in there.
Goal scoring Striker is key to a great season. CB seems to be high up on the wish list but with the cover provided on Friday not essential.

I would not want to lose Cullen at all !!

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:17 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:00 pm
Thought we’d be going for more experience at the back rather than another 20 year old but by all accounts PNE fans rated him highly.

He’s already proved himself at Championship level with 60 games at Preston, Liverpool might want a bigger challenge for him.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:19 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:03 pm
I would not want to lose Cullen at all !!

West Ham or in for him

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:35 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:18 pm
Thanks Cohiba.

Feedback from Benfica supporting mate on Cabral.

"I like him a lot. Think of a bulky, faster, stronger Nani with less technique, plays on both wings".

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So basically someone with completely different attributes to Nani?

GrahamBranchsPerm · Post by **GrahamBranchsPerm** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:42 pm

Yup sounds it.

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fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:48 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:55 pm
Heard this morning that a couple “out of the blue” are expected.

That's great news.... Can't beat something expected coming out of the blue.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:58 pm

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:48 pm
That's great news.... Can't beat something expected coming out of the blue.

Except for... Ablueclaret ?

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:36 pm

Benson looking very close to getting done with the fee at £3.5m

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:45 pm

Benson on his way ...

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... rXKiKy_l9A

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:46 pm

Do we know what our total spend has been since signing our first signing McNally including £3.3m for Benson assuming it goes ahead . Not our net spend factoring outgoing sales but just our incoming purchases (an estimate would do).

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:51 pm

claretandy wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:45 pm
Benson on his way ...

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... rXKiKy_l9A

That says there is an IMPORTANT issue with the fee structure still to be resolved. Doesn't sound done yet.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:54 pm

Minus a good few million.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:55 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:46 pm
Do we know what our total spend has been since signing our first signing McNally including £3.3m for Benson assuming it goes ahead . Not our net spend factoring outgoing sales but just our incoming purchases (an estimate would do).

I think around £16.5m

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:31 pm

Medical in next 48hrs.

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Boxy · Post by **Boxy** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:39 pm

Hopefully Tuesday so he can get some decent training in before Saturday

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:43 pm

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:55 pm
I think around £16.5m

Cheers Randomclaret-that feels about right

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:20 am

Couple of other wingers being touted too. We will certainly have some strength in depth. I foresee lots of subs being used.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:45 am

Some good news to start the day.

Portuguese press reporting Cabral has rejected us.

Belgian press reporting our offer for Benson is insufficient for now.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:53 am

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:45 am
Some good news to start the day.

Portuguese press reporting Cabral has rejected us.

Belgian press reporting our offer for Benson is insufficient for now.

Was never convinced with Cabral coming.

Benson - from reports it sounds like we are penny pinching a bit, just get it over the line.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:58 am

We need to penny pinch. We can’t afford not to.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:00 am

Darnhill Claret wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:58 am
We need to penny pinch. We can’t afford not to.

To be fair we’ve done well to this point in being relatively ‘aggressive’ in getting deals done. As the Belgian press report though, this one appears to be ‘dragging on’.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:01 am

We need to meet somewhere in the middle, not have our pants pulled down.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:05 am

At the end of this window we could do with knocking a bit off the debt if at all possible just leaving a little bit to play with in January.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:06 am

Sorry, back to the subject in hand.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:33 am

Cabral off to Besiktas who will presumably pay him 50k a week.

As far as any Belgian club, we are seemingly (now) a busted flush who walks away from the table. We offer a mill, they ask for 6, we seem to meet around 3, but we won’t go higher (as per Bart). They know we have money so the market gets inflated.

Becomes expensive to work in.

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:42 am

I said yesterday that there were a few posts saying Cabral was still going to Turkey, they've been in for him for a few weeks but thought the fee was too high.

It appears that our interest has just forced their hand.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:43 am

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:42 am
I said yesterday that there were a few posts saying Cabral was still going to Turkey, they've been in for him for a few weeks but thought the fee was too high.

It appears that our interest has just forced their hand.

Or we don’t have any interest and its just an agent thing, looks like they used us with the Muleka thing too

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:13 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:43 am
Or we don’t have any interest and its just an agent thing, looks like they used us with the Muleka thing too

Muleka was coming here until he couldn't get a work permit.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:17 am

claretandy wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:13 am
Muleka was coming here until he couldn't get a work permit.

Not convinced with that story.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:25 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:33 am
Cabral off to Besiktas who will presumably pay him 50k a week.

As far as any Belgian club, we are seemingly (now) a busted flush who walks away from the table. We offer a mill, they ask for 6, we seem to meet around 3, but we won’t go higher (as per Bart). They know we have money so the market gets inflated.

Becomes expensive to work in.

Busted flush or a club which doesn't want to pay what they'd consider to be over the odds?

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:30 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:43 am
Or we don’t have any interest and its just an agent thing, looks like they used us with the Muleka thing too

Maybe, I suppose we'll never know, I'm sure because of how active we are in the market that we will be used several times by agents during this window.

In regards Benson, we have to be prudent with the cash we have, being aggressive to push deals through early is one thing but overpaying because we are impatient is another.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:33 am

The level of ambition we are showing is so high for the level we are now at that we have to get used to disappointment, but some will get over the line.

It is obvious that the club is really going for it and will need to sell to finance that change, so selling all those players was probably vital, including Max.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:36 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:25 am
Busted flush or a club which doesn't want to pay what they'd consider to be over the odds?

I know we are not allowed to talk about money on this thread, but it does seem that the fact we have a limited amount and still large holes in the squad isn't really getting through to some people

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:41 am

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:36 am
I know we are not allowed to talk about money on this thread, but it does seem that the fact we have a limited amount and still large holes in the squad isn't really getting through to some people

I personally don’t see the large holes you mention. Probably two players shy (attacking midfield / winger) and striker (or two) short of having a very competitive squad.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:43 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:41 am
I personally don’t see the large holes you mention. Probably two players shy (attacking midfield / winger) and striker (or two) short of having a very competitive squad.

If we don't get in those players then we have large holes in the squad

I'm old enough to remember the bench from last friday for starters

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:44 am

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:36 am
I know we are not allowed to talk about money on this thread, but it does seem that the fact we have a limited amount and still large holes in the squad isn't really getting through to some people

How many clubs in football don't have a limited amount ?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:45 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:44 am
How many clubs in football don't have a limited amount ?

WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT *THAT*

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:51 am

We’ve successfully negotiated 9 deals so far this window. On the VERY early evidence, we appear to have brought some good players in.

There are 29 days of the window left. Don’t fret.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:54 am

Royal Antwerp appear to be dicking us around with the fee, keep adding more whenever we match it.

Time to move on. Unfortunate for the lad but we can't be held ransom. Wouldn't pay more than 3/4 mill for him.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:54 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:54 am
Royal Antwerp appear to be dicking us around with the fee, keep adding more whenever we match it.

Time to move on. Unfortunate for the lad but we can't be held ransom. Wouldn't pay more than 3/4 mill for him.

How have you reached this conclusion?

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:59 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:54 am
How have you reached this conclusion?

The fact that it's been reported as agreed several times, and then reported as being too low the day after.

Latest figure stands at 4 million euros, originally it was believed they just wanted to recoup their investment of 3 million euros.

Safe to say they are probably messing us around because they know we've made some big sales.

Obviously nobody knows for certain but it certainly appears that way.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:01 am

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:51 am
We’ve successfully negotiated 9 deals so far this window. On the VERY early evidence, we appear to have brought some good players in.

There are 29 days of the window left. Don’t fret.

I think what we have done is amazing, but we still have quite a few holes in the squad to be genuinely competitive (ie to compete with a few injuries)

All I was really commenting on was the post about how we were not paying what other clubs demanded for their players, when we have to use our limited funds wisely to fill the gaps we have

I think we've done really well so far considering

Paddy1882 · Post by **Paddy1882** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:02 am

Not a rumour but if Antwerp are messing us around and we’ve reached the top figure we are prepared to go, I’d be switching my attention to Bowler at Blackpool, championship experience, young, exciting and an asking price of 3-4million, ticks all the boxes for me.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:06 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:59 am
The fact that it's been reported as agreed several times, and then reported as being too low the day after.

Latest figure stands at 4 million euros, originally it was believed they just wanted to recoup their investment of 3 million euros.

Safe to say they are probably messing us around because they know we've made some big sales.

Obviously nobody knows for certain but it certainly appears that way.

Went from "safe to say they are probably messing us around" to "obviously nobody knows for certain" in 1 sentence.

The fact that it has been reported as agreed and not enough being offered suggests more like the person doing the reporting got something wrong.