Team v Huddersfield

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:36 am

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:05 am
-------------BPF
Roberts--CJ-THB-Taylor
——---Cullen-------Cork
-----Brownhill-----McNeil
—--Rodriguez------Cornet

Spot on. Depends what the Cornet situation actually is and his fitness with limited pre season. Either way, Huddersfield fans I have heard are not confident about it so hopefully we have enough.

Jambo · Post by **Jambo** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:01 am

Interesting to see what we do with Cornet if he's still here. Obviously you risk him getting injured if he plays, but if he does play and bags a few it might increase the interest levels. It's clear for me: if he's here he has to play. I don't know who's gonna be fit and who's not, but agree with the team CoolClaret posted. Brownhill further forward is better for now, imo, with Cork vital for protecting an inexperienced defence/goalie.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:41 am

Is Muric now likely to be in goal?

Dodobdobodobo · Post by **Dodobdobodobo** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:33 pm

Muric
Roberts THB Thomas Taylor
Cullen
Mcneil Brownhill Cork
Twine Cornet/Jay

BradTee93 · Post by **BradTee93** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:40 pm

Muric (if he signs)
Roberts, Thomas, THB, Taylor
Cullen, Cork
Brownhill, Cornet
JayRod, Twine

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 4:01 pm

Basing this on everyone being fit and available and in Kompany’s supposedly preferred formation - and caveated with the fact that I’ve never seen a number of these players before;

____________Muric__________
Roberts__Long___THB___Taylor
_______Cullen____Cork_______
___Brownhill_______McNeil___
_____Rodriguez___Cornet_____

I think Twine will be a key player, and I don’t expect Long to feature all season - but I think this would give a good balance and options on the bench.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:32 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:41 am
Is Muric now likely to be in goal?

Looks highly likely now. I’d imagine he’ll start tomorrow against Newcastle.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:52 pm

I'd probably be as well naming the Huddersfield team.

Gone are the days of being absolutely certain of our first XI.

That Cullen fella is a shoe in though.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:29 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 22, 2022 4:01 pm
Basing this on everyone being fit and available and in Kompany’s supposedly preferred formation - and caveated with the fact that I’ve never seen a number of these players before;

____________Muric__________
Roberts__Long___THB___Taylor
_______Cullen____Cork_______
___Brownhill_______McNeil___
_____Rodriguez___Cornet_____

I think Twine will be a key player, and I don’t expect Long to feature all season - but I think this would give a good balance and options on the bench.

Such a key player that you don't think he'll play?

ArthurShelby · Post by **ArthurShelby** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:45 pm

Muric
CJ THB Taylor
Cullen Cork
McNeil Brownhill Cornet
Twine
Jay

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:03 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:29 pm
Such a key player that you don't think he'll play?

I think that Twine will be a key player for us this season but my starting eleven doesn’t include him as I feel we need to find a mix between the old and the new in the opening games.

I have no idea whether he’ll play, don’t think that’s the point of this thread though.

Edit - maybe it is actually the point if this thread, but I’ve opted to list my preferred lineup.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:08 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:03 pm
I think that Twine will be a key player for us this season but my starting eleven doesn’t include him as I feel we need to find a mix between the old and the new in the opening games.

I have no idea whether he’ll play, don’t think that’s the point of this thread though.

Edit - maybe it is actually the point if this thread, but I’ve opted to list my preferred lineup.

Okay ablue.

GDK · Post by **GDK** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:19 pm

The first few games are obviously huge for us, starting with Huddersfield. A good start and Cornet, Brownhill, McNeil and Taylor might be persuaded to stay with us for a promotion push.

It's impossible to predict the full XI really but my team would certainly include Taylor and Lowton as fullbacks, Cornet, Cork, Cullen and McNeil in midfield with Barnes and Rodriguez up front. Several of the new arrivals may have to be patient and earn a place, but whoever replaces "holy trinity" at the back will need a lot of support from the senior pros.

beeholeclaret · Post by **beeholeclaret** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:40 pm

Serious question regarding VK’s supposed favoured formation 4-2-2-2. ?? Who provides cover for our full backs if our opponents line up with fast wingers supported by wing backs ? Or should they be too worried about us to consider this necessary.

Just puzzling how I would set up if I was Huddersfield coach.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:43 pm

I’ll go for this

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:43 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:08 pm
Okay ablue.

Not sure what’s so controversial about my 11. What would yours be?

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:44 pm

beeholeclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:40 pm
Serious question regarding VK’s supposed favoured formation 4-2-2-2. ?? Who provides cover for our full backs if our opponents line up with fast wingers supported by wing backs ? Or should they be too worried about us to consider this necessary.

Just puzzling how I would set up if I was Huddersfield coach.

Cullen makes it a back 3 essentially when we are attacking and I reckon Cork if deployed will sit as well whilst the rest go forward and attack?

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:49 pm

Suspect too much is being made of 4-2-2-2 and I don't think it's too far away from the formation that Dyche favoured, which was a flat 442 out of possession, whilst in possession the wingers narrowed to get into the pockets and create space for the full backs to raid into. The difference, of course, is that Kompany is planning to have a lot more of the ball than Dyche ever did, even at this level, and so we'll be in that attacking shape more.

With the personnel available currently, I can't help but think we'd be more suited to a 4-2-3-1 shape with Cornet, McNeil playing from wide on either side and Bastien or Brownhill playing between them, but perhaps that's a detail. Personally I'd also slot Cork in at centre back alongside Harwood Bellis to lend experience (he's played there before), but presumably Kompany will go for one of the various other centre halves he's signed and back them despite inexperience.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:50 pm

beeholeclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:40 pm
Serious question regarding VK’s supposed favoured formation 4-2-2-2. ?? Who provides cover for our full backs if our opponents line up with fast wingers supported by wing backs ? Or should they be too worried about us to consider this necessary.

Just puzzling how I would set up if I was Huddersfield coach.

It's a very good point and would be one area where we could be vulnerable in a counter - thought both wingbacks don't push up high all of the time - one will sit in a bit more if the other is pressing up high.

The two centrebacks split wide in possession with one of his holding mids sitting in with the other themselves available for passes and will have a lot of defensive duty shuttling/screening players if we lose the ball.

Out of possession the 2 inside 10s drop into a traditional wide midfield role in a 4-4-2 and provide assistance to their full back but yeah for sure in transition that is looking where we could be vulnerable if committing too many men forward at once.

It will be crucial to look out for marauding midfielders and being alert for players making runs into space in dangerous areas - I think Cork is switched on enough to help there and Brownhill is fantastic at covering ground for a full 90

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:19 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:43 pm
Not sure what’s so controversial about my 11. What would yours be?

Lol. It's not particularly controversial. I just found it interesting that you made the comment about Twine and then didn't include him.

As for my selection, I'm not even going to try and guess a line up of players, most of whom I've never even seen play. Doing that is a bit bizarre when you think about it.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:48 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:19 pm
Lol. It's not particularly controversial. I just found it interesting that you made the comment about Twine and then didn't include him.

As for my selection, I'm not even going to try and guess a line up of players, most of whom I've never even seen play. Doing that is a bit bizarre when you think about it.

I said that I think Twine will have a big part to play this season but I’m not sure he’d be in my starting eleven against Huddersfield due to the options we have in forward positions.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:39 am

If fit, Twine starts. Imo. Baller, that lad is class, honestly we are going to enjoy him. Proper player.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:01 am

I think CJ may start at centre half ahead of Thomas. Some say he impressed at Shrewsbury and he’s been given the number 6 by the looks of it.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:24 am

Muric
Roberts
ER
THB
Taylor
Cullen
Cork
Bastien
Brownhill
Barnes
JRod

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 6:34 am

......................Muric

Roberts....THB....Egan-Riley....Taylor

.............Cullen...........Cork

......Brownhill....Bastien.....Mcneil

.......................Cornet

Or

........................BPF

Roberts....THB....Egan-Riley....Taylor

.............Cullen...........Cork

.....McNeil......Bastien.....Cornet

.......................Twine

SalouClaret · Post by **SalouClaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:24 pm

Can't see Twine or Cornet starting, they won't be match fit and Cornet won't want to get injured.

Muric/BPF

Roberts
Egan-Riley
THB
Taylor

Brownhill
Cullen
Cork
McNeil

Barnes
Rodriguez

fungus_the_bogeyman · Post by **fungus_the_bogeyman** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:39 pm

Muric

Roberts
Maatsen
Egan-Riley
Harwood-Bellis

Bastien
Cullen

Brownhill
McNeil

Barnes
Rodriguez

adropofclaret · Post by **adropofclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:45 pm

Muric
Roberts - Thomas - CJ - Taylor
Cullen
Bastian - Cork - Brownhill
JRod - Barnes

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 6:00 pm

Muric
Roberts Harwood-Bellis Egan-Riley Taylor
Cullen Cork
Brownhill McNeil
Cornet Rodriguez

Which can also be -

Muric
Roberts Harwood-Bellis Cullen Egan-Riley Taylor
Cork Brownhill
McNeil
Cornet Rodriguez

And also -

Muric
Roberts Harwood-Bellis Egan-Riley Taylor
Cullen Cork
Brownhill
Cornet Rodriguez McNeil

Expecting us to be much more fluid and would not be surprised to see all three of those used at some point against Huddersfield. (Although Barnes may play instead of Cornet)

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 6:30 pm

Well, going off todays games, a few things stand out

THB, Twine, Cornet all not featuring suggests they won’t be starting

Not sure whether Taylor at cb was an experiment or if he fancies that bit of exp in the middle of defence

Though the team that starts the final friendly is usually the one that plays the first game…

So, will it therefore be

Muric
Roberts
McNally
Taylor
Maatsen
Cullen
Bastien
McNeil
Brownhill
Barnes
Rodriguez

Nipples · Post by **Nipples** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:30 pm

Maxwel must start if he is here and fit. I don't think I could take a full season without any pace up top.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:32 pm

Nipples wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:30 pm
Maxwel must start if he is here and fit. I don't think I could take a full season without any pace up top.

He hasn’t played a minute of pre season games, that suggests he is off very soon

Ralphandwillie · Post by **Ralphandwillie** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:45 pm

NORRIS
LOWTON LONG THOMAS TAYLOR
ROBERTS BROWNHILL CORK MCNEIL
BARNES RODRIGUEZ

CryerBFC · Post by **CryerBFC** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:10 pm

BPF
Roberts CJ McNally Taylor
Cullen Bastien
McNeil Brownhill
Jay Barnes

*edit cornet out brownhill in

JR1882 · Post by **JR1882** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:24 pm

Looking at these line ups we have some really really good options.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:35 pm

Muric
Roberts CJ Thomas Taylor
Bastien Cork
Brownhill Dwight
Barnes JRod

But torn between Maatsen & Taylor. Could be Taylor LCB and Maatsen LB.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:43 pm

JR1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:24 pm
Looking at these line ups we have some really really good options.

Apart from the front two where we appear to have very few.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:21 pm

V K will probably have his draft team well & truly sorted out in his head now. He may be undecided on the positions that he knows newcomers will occupy and may experiment in two positions, but I will plump for the following ;

Music
Roberts Riley Thomas Maatesen
Cullen Cork
Bastien Brownhill
Barnes J Rod

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:37 pm

JR1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:24 pm
Looking at these line ups we have some really really good options.

Do we have good options in defence and in goal?

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:58 pm

I'm glad there are 46 games in the season. It's going to be a long season and the Huddersfield game cannot be over quicker for me.
Throw names in the air and see what comes up

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:21 pm

The doom mongers are out, and it's not even full moon

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:24 am

Looks like Pearson out for Town , good news for us

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:54 am

Kompany looks like starting with this in a 4-2-2-2

............................Muric

Roberts....McNally....THB....Baatesen

................ Cullen..........Bastien

...............Brownhill.........McNeil

...................Barnes.......J Rod

ClaretPete001 · Post by **ClaretPete001** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:42 pm

Bungalow Bill is out and it's not even hunting season.

Muric
Roberts
McNally
Taylor
Maatsen
Cullen
Bastien
McNeil
Brownhill
Barnes
Rodriguez

If that is the team then it would make sense but doesn't say too much for the academy players the club have recruited but on the other hand there is a lot of experience in there and a couple of youngsters.

I suppose much would depend on whether Belgian League A pairing Cullen and Bastien can adapt and thrive in the Championship because as much as I respect Jay and Barnes at their age I don't see them bringing much pace or creativity so we would very quickly have to get to grips with the midfield.

Twine's injury throws a spanner in the works but personally, I think I would sub Barnes push Mc Neil further up and include Cork in a midfield 3. It isn't VK's 4222 but I don't see a 4-2-2-2 in the squad at this point because we don't have the pace up front or on the wings:

Muric

Roberts
Mc Nally
Taylor
Maatsen

Cork
Cullen
Bastien

Brownhill
Mc Neil

Rodriguez

Roberts and Maatsen could create a midfield 4 when Brownhill and Mc Neil push up leaving the CBs and Cullen as a defensive 3 when we are going forward as a 4-3-3. We then have a 4-5-1 when not in possession

Huddersfield are a decent side and an away draw is a good result. I certainly wouldn't want my pants pulled down or expose youngsters to a mauling on the first day of the season.

Looking at it without seeing them in a competitive game the team doesn't look anything like as strong as last season but then again if Bastien and Cullen are up to it then there is some potential there.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:49 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:05 am
-------------BPF
Roberts--CJ-THB-Taylor
——---Cullen-------Cork
-----Brownhill-----McNeil
—--Rodriguez------Cornet

As it stands, swap BPF for Muric.

BPF looks terrible and I have no confidence in his ability

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:55 pm

Muric
Roberts Mcnally THB Maatsen
Cullen
Brownhill Cork Bastien
Twine
Rodriguez

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:02 pm

As I have never seen any of our ‘New’ players I’d base my team around a familiar 4-2-2 formation for the first two or three matches.

Muric
Roberts Long New Taylor
McNeil Brownhill Cork New
Rodriguez Cornet

I’ll admit it’s a conservative start to the season but too many changes too soon might be counterproductive.

On the other hand, he who dares...

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:06 pm

Assuming that they are all fit I agree with Fez

beeholeclaret · Post by **beeholeclaret** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:18 pm

As I have never seen any of our ‘New’ players I’d base my team around a familiar 4-2-2 formation for the first two or three matches.
[/quote

Mala have we lost so many of our players during the summer break

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:59 am

                           Muric
Roberts Harwood-Bellis Taylor Maatsen
                  Cullen Brownhill
                  Bastien McNeil
                  Rodriguez Cornet

But throwing some darts at our squad list would probably give an equally good guess.