ARTICLE: Dwight’s right for Everton

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Good luck to him. Largely amongst others very poor last season so maybe a new start will do him good.

[Pickles]

Also, if Dwight found the Turf Moor criticism tough (and he pretty obviously did) then Goodison Park will eat him alive.

[hetheclaret]

To put it simply. There's no loyalty in football.

Why should there be? A very short career (10 years max, maybe a few more if you're lucky) so they have every right to maximise their earnings and play at the highest level they can. No different to the rest of the population.

That might be upsetting to some people but it's the truth in all sport (and always has been).

[BennyD]

If he thinks Everton are a great team and Frank Lampard is going to improve him, he's talking sh!te. The only reason we went down instead of them is because they bulldozed through FFP rules. If that's the level of his football nouse, I'll take £20m and look forward to them going down at the end of the season. I used to rate him and then he spoke. He did it for the money, he bullsh!tted, so he can f*ck off.

[Colburn_Claret]

I hope Dwight finds the enormous promise he showed when he first featured for us. He's a sound lad who could have left earlier, but for the recommendation of his dad. I can only wish him well.
I think it's a deal that's good for all parties, but like others I worry that Everton won't be a good choice for him.

[fidelcastro]

Why should there be? A very short career (10 years max, maybe a few more if you're lucky) so they have every right to maximise their earnings and play at the highest level they can. No different to the rest of the population.

That might be upsetting to some people but it's the truth in all sport (and always has been).

I wasn't claiming there should be. It's just some fans throw their toys out of the pram when a player chooses to be leave, hence the fact that so many players are booed when they return to their former club.

Edit. BennyD'S post above reinforces my point.

[hetheclaret]

I wasn't claiming there should be. It's just some fans throw their toys out of the pram when a player chooses to be leave, hence the fact that so many players are booed when they return to their former club.

Fair enough, sounded like you were one of those. I've never got that, unless they've moved directly to a rival (eg if someone went straight to Rovers) or badmouthed the club immediately after.

[Wokingclaret]

In the picture, (and others I've seen) the contract doesn't look many pages, my employment contract was/is like a brick

[Papabendi]

Not having that, had he been handcuffed then we'd never have seen anything for him given every game was under Dyche. McNeil, like Dyche, sufffered from a lack of investment in the squad.

I think you better have it, because he's been awful for 2 years.

[Caballo]

Groundsman's job has just got easier, he won't have to deal with the 'crop circles' down the flanks next season.

[Burnley1989]

Good money for him, what would he have been worth in 12 months if his average form had continued? How do we know he’d rip up the championship?

It’s potentially 20m for a player that’s scored and assisted very few recently, huge gamble for Everton, and for what it’s worth I really hope he does have a great 5 years at Everton, he’s done really well for us on the whole

[Venkys4eva]

Great bit of business I don't know why people are moaning? I thought the whole point of bringing young players through was to sell them at a profit.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

In the picture, (and others I've seen) the contract doesn't look many pages, my employment contract was/is like a brick

The one he's signing is just for show at a guess.

[Lancasterclaret]

This one stings a bit I have to say

[dandeclaret]

Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got til it's gone, they paved paradise and put up a parking lot.

[forzagranata]

£20 million including add-ons means something around £15 million.

Bargain for Everton. Another player gone for below market value.

[fidelcastro]

£20 million including add-ons means something around £15 million.

Bargain for Everton. Another player gone for below market value.

Really?

What should we have got?

[Milltown1882]

In the picture, (and others I've seen) the contract doesn't look many pages, my employment contract was/is like a brick

It’s never an actual contract on the photos like that. Few sheets of paper nothing legit contract wise.

[Dingo]

Shame for us as I would’ve liked to have seen how he did under VK this season but it’s a good move for him. Hope he does well there.

[fidelcastro]

Not the brightest post. Should maybe learn to ‘read the room’. Oh well!

What are you talking about?

[forzagranata]

Really?

What should we have got?

Should have been looking at something around £25 million

[fidelcastro]

Should have been looking at something around £25 million

After his performances over the last 18 months or so, I think we did well to get what is being reported.

[Spijed]

After his performances over the last 18 months or so, I think we did well to get what is being reported.

How much, based on his previous performances, do you think he was really worth then?

[forzagranata]

There is an art to getting the maximum possible value out of players when you sell them.

Unfortunately our rookie chairman clearly doesn't have that art.

[Pickles]

Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got til it's gone, they paved paradise and put up a parking lot.

Thompson Centre?

[fidelcastro]

How much, based on his previous performances, do you think he was really worth then?

Irrelevant. His market value will have decreased significantly over the past couple of seasons. He's been the most frustrating player to watch during that period.

[NickBFC]

Good luck to him, but I think it was probably time to part company. When he first burst on the scene he was a breath of fresh air in a very stagnant, one dimensional side. Gradually his confidence and possibly desire eroded, and for me he has been disappointing for a number of months. I am sure he would have added more to the side this season but I'll look forward to see who comes in as a replacement. Hopefully Cornet is the final sale!

[Wembley09]

I think this move will be a fail for Dwight and Everton, but I do wish him all the best. Hope he shows some of that 'brief' form he showed in the early days.

I do think Dwight is over-rated alot by Claret tinted eyes, but that's no surprise.. anything he does will be seen 10x better by some as he came through our ranks.

I think Dwight is a decent player but not amazing, £20 million after last seasons performances is very good business for us. Everton like to throw big money around on players and hope it works.

I remember when they signed Gylfi Sigurdsson, so many pundits said he was no where near worth the amount Everton paid for him.. Swansea fans were laughing. I think he was eventually let go when his contract finally expired, Everton fans wanted to see the back of him long before that.

[ClaretTony]

I think you better have it, because he's been awful for 2 years.

I don't better have it at all, and not from someone who has been at him at every opportunity like yourself. I think the sale of McNeil is a big loss to us.

[BennyD]

I wasn't claiming there should be. It's just some fans throw their toys out of the pram when a player chooses to be leave, hence the fact that so many players are booed when they return to their former club.

Edit. BennyD'S post above reinforces my point

Wrong again. I think VK is being honorable by letting anyone with Prem aspirations to go and pursue them. IMO, Dwight has chosen a sinking ship to jump onto because Lampard is a sh!te manager. Had he gone to West Ham, Villa, Leicester etc then great and the best of luck and I wish him well. However, by extolling the virtues of a (financially and very lucky) cheating bunch of crooks I wish him nothing and hope that our leaguesvare swapped at the end of the season.

[bfcjg]

He got some very poor marks on players ratings,as did a lot of players, one trick pony mentioned quite a bit.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I think this move will be a fail for Dwight and Everton, but I do wish him all the best. Hope he shows some of that 'brief' form he showed in the early days.

I do think Dwight is over-rated alot by Claret tinted eyes, but that's no surprise.. anything he does will be seen 10x better by some as he came through our ranks.

I think Dwight is a decent player but not amazing, £20 million after last seasons performances is very good business for us. Everton like to throw big money around on players and hope it works.

I remember when they signed Gylfi Sigurdsson, so many pundits said he was no where near worth the amount Everton paid for him.. Swansea fans were laughing. I think he was eventually let go when his contract finally expired, Everton fans wanted to see the back of him long before that.

Sigurddson is currently under arrest/investigation, I don't know if his contract has been terminated or expired.

[bobinho]

Good player in there. Should be easy to find. We saw how good he was when he broke into the team. Been missing for a while. Will we miss him next season? Mmmmm….

Good luck to him. I’m not too sure that Everton have the skills to get him playing again.

[fidelcastro]

Wrong again. I think VK is being honorable by letting anyone with Prem aspirations to go and pursue them. IMO, Dwight has chosen a sinking ship to jump onto because Lampard is a sh!te manager. Had he gone to West Ham, Villa, Leicester etc then great and the best of luck and I wish him well. However, by extolling the virtues of a (financially and very lucky) cheating bunch of crooks I wish him nothing and hope that our leaguesvare swapped at the end of the season.

I wonder how many times people have written Everton off since they were reported to the top flight in the 1950's?

[Shaggy]

I liked McNeil but he’s not been too great for us recently. Definitely stymied by Dyches framework as with all our attacking players.

Overall £20m is a decent sale, could pick O’hare up now for less than half that.

[Cirrus_Minor]

I think Everton have got themselves a very good player. In fairness, in my opinion, he was being asked to do too much for the team and his performances suffered for it. He is a very decent winger and maybe, for his sake, Everton might use him to his strengths to get the best out of him. People forget he is still only 22 and remains one he'll of a prospect.

[BabylonClaret]

Think he will be a miss for us this season for sure.

Thought he would have the ability to really show what he could do in a more attacking team.

Can't argue about the fee if true when you look at last seasons performance at that level.

Good luck Dwight.

Really? Let's be honest here. Everton are banging in about how he's only 22 with lots of Prem experience and a real talent. We spent 13m on Hendrick - then an unproven good Champ player.

We might get UP TO 20m for Dwight after 6 years of inflated markets post Hendrick.

And people think it's a good deal? If he were in his final year maybe but not right now.

[taio]

Really sad to see McNeil go and I wish him all the best. The apparent fee is better than I thought and seems a well negotiated deal looking at it in isolation, but I feel less comfortable when considering the broader picture. Hoping the powers that be can enable the right replacements - it's obviously their job to deliver.

[BennyD]

I wonder how many times people have written Everton off since they were reported to the top flight in the 1950's?

Deep down you know they got very lucky and, by all rights, should have gone down last season. Only their massive over spending kept them up by the skin of their teeth. If you can't see that then, perhaps, football isn't your game, sorry business.

[Inchy]

I never felt Dyche’s defensive style suited him. I hope he gets the chance to reach his potential.

All the best

[ClaretTony]

Wrong again. I think VK is being honorable by letting anyone with Prem aspirations to go and pursue them.

Do you honestly think the manager had a say once the owners saw the colour of Everton's money?

[fidelcastro]

Deep down you know they got very lucky and, by all rights, should have gone down last season. Only their massive over spending kept them up by the skin of their teeth. If you can't see that then, perhaps, football isn't your game.

No, they stayed up because they won when they needed to and got more points than we did. That's why they stayed up.

Get over it.

[LowtonClaret]

I would never criticise a player wanting to move on, except wegthrop or whatever he's called. DN is a good player but far to many times he went missing in games. If it wasn't going his way, he would throw his arms around like a petulant child. Good look to him, I hope a new direction meets him well. For me, we have, and are bringing in some very exciting new young talent who might take a little while to gel but will be the making of a great team. Sod the past, the future looks bright.

[Steve1956]

I really shouldn't but.........

Breaking News

McNeil fails medical after doctors discover his right foot missing

[tiger76]

Dwight was a revelation in his 1st season, and he dragged us out of trouble virtually on his own.

But despite glimpses of ability since, that splendid strike at Goodison especially, he's flattered to deceive far too often for my liking.

£20m isn't a bad amount, if the majority is reinvested into improving our squad, and that's when this sale can be properly assessed as good or bad.

Now we have the available funds, or least we should have the available funds, O'Hare and a quality striker have to be our priority signings now.

Up to Pace and co to deliver.

[Papabendi]

I don't better have it at all, and not from someone who has been at him at every opportunity like yourself. I think the sale of McNeil is a big loss to us.

Nope. I was pretty fair, calling out his good performances when they came (which unfortunately were few and far between). If we'd signed him from elsewhere then I think your view would have been different, homegrown players get that slack.

[BennyD]

Do you honestly think the manager had a say once the owners saw the colour of Everton's money?

He didn't have a release clause, had years left on his contract and would have benefitted us to keep him. We didn't need to sell him and, if we get promoted his value would have increased. Chirrup on about the owners all you want, but I prefer to think that if VK had wanted to, he could have kept him. If you don't agree, then suck up the bile and bitterness you obviously see in the club and then you can say 'I told you so" if we go under.

[DAVETHEVICAR]

Big loss as we sell off all the assets because Pace has no money and needs it quick after relegation to pay off previous owners.
Replacing with players of unknown ability.

[Clowbridge89]

What are you talking about?

BPF’s post on Instagram.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Not having that, had he been handcuffed then we'd never have seen anything for him given every game was under Dyche. McNeil, like Dyche, sufffered from a lack of investment in the squad.

Dyche sledge hammered him on the left wing, often defending more than being the key player we built the team round. Games were crying out for him to be given a chance more central. He’s gonna turn into a cracking player under a different manager. Gutted he’s gone.