One team played counter attacking football (his strengths) and the other team didn’t. I didn’t rate Werner to be honest.
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Not the only player to score goals in the Bundesliga but not our league. Lacks pace & strength to play in our league. Poor signing.hetheclaret wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:43 pmI'd add to this that the Bundesliga is the closest in style and pace to the Premier League out of Europe's top leagues
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So you don’t rate Werner but you do Weghorst. What next?gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:50 pmOne team played counter attacking football (his strengths) and the other team didn’t. I didn’t rate Werner to be honest.
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No it wasn’t.
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Folk say he acted terribly but didn’t he record the highest number of pressures recorded by a single player in a PL game?!
Yeah he was arrogant but he put effort in on the pitch.
As for he’s not that good - rewatch the goal against United when he made Maguire look non league
Yeah he was arrogant but he put effort in on the pitch.
As for he’s not that good - rewatch the goal against United when he made Maguire look non league
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Indeed - Wood is one of those players who I watch and wonder how he is a professional footballer. But our system was perfect for him, whereas it was the opposite for Weghorstsuperdimitri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:48 pmWood was excellent from us; we built the team around his strengths. I found him to be an incredibly limited footballer that corresponded to our lack of creativity.
Weghorst was a far more technical and intelligent player that needed to be in a different system, and we failed to adapt.
We can already see what happens when Wood is put in a situation where the teams tactics are not tailored for his strengths, he'll probably be back in the championship soon.
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Hope WW does well during his loan stint, then we'll at least recoup some of the 12m we splashed out on him, but I can't see him having a future at Burnley given the manner of his departure.
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Not sure it's particular sensible to judge based on that single moment.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:54 pmFolk say he acted terribly but didn’t he record the highest number of pressures recorded by a single player in a PL game?!
Yeah he was arrogant but he put effort in on the pitch.
As for he’s not that good - rewatch the goal against United when he made Maguire look non league
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That’s fair but it shows the sort of stuff he was capable of.
See that header recently vs Wales as well?
Weghorst had to hit the ground running for us and unfortunately didn’t quite, a bit slow for the Pl as a lone striker but could be effective in the right system.
Incidentally I think he’d be perfect for what we need right now
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He’ll never cut it in the PL imo. Happy to eat humble pie if he ever does. Plenty of players score in the Bundesliga but not in the PL. Dreadful signing for us and at the wrong time.
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He’s like juke with a better first touch. Must have missed 4-5 golden chances in front of goal last season.
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Christiano Ronaldo has the right to be arrogant - WW does not.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:54 pmFolk say he acted terribly but didn’t he record the highest number of pressures recorded by a single player in a PL game?!
Yeah he was arrogant but he put effort in on the pitch.
As for he’s not that good - rewatch the goal against United when he made Maguire look non league
My mum could make Maguire look non league so that’s no real measure
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Well there was Royston drenthe who was not great in the Dutch league, you just knew couldn't step up and was then bought by real madrid on the basis of a few good looking games when he didn't have to defend.
And winston bogarde. Odd one that as I thought that he'd be OK.
Even huntelaar, if you watched him enough, you could tell he wouldn't be able to step up and wasn't suited to the Premier league.
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as dreadful as Jayrod, McNeil, Barnes and JBG. And probably Wood that season (marginal). Better stats than most of those / game time. No time to acclimatise either. Playing in one of the worst Prem teams of recent times. Not as good as Cornet, who you also don't rate. I think I'll leave the top half of our game last year there as an assessment.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:36 pmDifferent league, different qualities. Overall he was dreadful for us on the field.
Btw - would Curarella have been a Dyche signing or a club signing had we got him? No prizes for guessing why he did not end up coming.
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I’m not one of those who thinks that Weghorst is a poor player. He’s obviously not. He didn’t hit form with us and he was playing in a struggling side which wasn’t set up to give him the best chance. But I can’t see how exactly he would fit into the way we play now?CoolClaret wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:01 pmThat’s fair but it shows the sort of stuff he was capable of.
See that header recently vs Wales as well?
Weghorst had to hit the ground running for us and unfortunately didn’t quite, a bit slow for the Pl as a lone striker but could be effective in the right system.
Incidentally I think he’d be perfect for what we need right now
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I thought he started off OK but seemed to get worse almost game by game.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:36 pmDifferent league, different qualities. Overall he was dreadful for us on the field.
Perhaps the rigours of the PL were too much for him.
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Probably also better to asses after having actually watched games.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:21 pmIt’s better to assess over a reasonable time period because if you are too hasty you can often get it wrong!
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Careful, Juke is still a legend with some. Pretty good going considering I don't remember him ever scoring.Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:04 pmHe’s like juke with a better first touch. Must have missed 4-5 golden chances in front of goal last season.
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Pleased to see he’s started well there. Hope it continues. Don’t know much about the Turkish league but there isn’t much in those highlights to suggest he’s playing at a higher level than the Championship.
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Believe it or not I think in the 1920s a square object called the television got invented a remarkable piece of kit which can enable people to watch football without even leaving the house, don’t you think that’s a brilliant invention that’s been going nearly a century now.TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:42 pmProbably also better to asses after having actually watched games.
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I'ttl never catch onJakubclaret wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:15 pmBelieve it or not I think in the 1920s a square object called the television got invented a remarkable piece of kit which can enable people to watch football without even leaving the house, don’t you think that’s a brilliant invention that’s been going nearly a century now.
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Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:15 pmBelieve it or not I think in the 1920s a square object called the television got invented a remarkable piece of kit which can enable people to watch football without even leaving the house, don’t you think that’s a brilliant invention that’s been going nearly a century now.
You are absolutely missing the point.
You need cocaine to watch it these days, apparently.
Or a minimum 5 pints of strong lager
Then you can say "I saw it, I was there"
What you see on the telly isn't real.
Only joking BTW
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I saw him as being very mentally fragile, he came to England thinking he would tear it up, found it harder than he expected, with less time to shoot or to turn or pass. This shocked him. That fragile mentality then causing him to get progressively worse and possibly fall out with his teammates (e.g. that Roberts incident).
He won’t be the first Dutch striker to fail in the PL.
That for me is why he has good career stats but proved a dud with us. Worse than Wood would have been, even Wood off form. Without doubt, keep Wood we stay up and Dyche is still in a job. Sliding doors.
He won’t be the first Dutch striker to fail in the PL.
That for me is why he has good career stats but proved a dud with us. Worse than Wood would have been, even Wood off form. Without doubt, keep Wood we stay up and Dyche is still in a job. Sliding doors.
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No chance we were staying up with Dyche. Rock bottom without a shadow of a doubt. £25m for Wood we robbed Newcastle blind. He wasn’t scoring any more the WW did for us that’s for sure much more limited player.CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:39 pmI saw him as being very mentally fragile, he came to England thinking he would tear it up, found it harder than he expected, with less time to shoot or to turn or pass. This shocked him. That fragile mentality then causing him to get progressively worse and possibly fall out with his teammates (e.g. that Roberts incident).
He won’t be the first Dutch striker to fail in the PL.
That for me is why he has good career stats but proved a dud with us. Worse than Wood would have been, even Wood off form. Without doubt, keep Wood we stay up and Dyche is still in a job. Sliding doors.
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Decent player but severe ego problems.
Playing at a lower level now so should shine
Playing at a lower level now so should shine
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Obviously a good player when played to his strengths, he did not suit SD style.. his attitude stank, the Watford game highlighted his character, his respect for the fans with his comment end of season were shameful.
Would he suit Kmopanys style of play? Nothing he did here suggests he would to me.
As mentioned above, hope he has a great season and we get some of our money back.
My fondest memory of him is his announcement on Twitter to the Jurassic Park parody, says it all really
Good luck to him
Would he suit Kmopanys style of play? Nothing he did here suggests he would to me.
As mentioned above, hope he has a great season and we get some of our money back.
My fondest memory of him is his announcement on Twitter to the Jurassic Park parody, says it all really
Good luck to him
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Nasty piece of work who was useless in the air and next to useless with his feet! Panic buy by ALk who caused no panic at all in the opposition defence
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his comment was factual. No disrespect was shown, it's how it has chosen to be taken, out of context. No minimum buy out-of-contract cause either, just effectively a loan clause with him coming back if we gain promotion. He needs to be playing in the top tier of the league he is playing in for world cup reasons. He has had an unjustified depth of bad wrap on hereSirBob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:59 pmObviously a good player when played to his strengths, he did not suit SD style.. his attitude stank, the Watford game highlighted his character, his respect for the fans with his comment end of season were shameful.
Would he suit Kmopanys style of play? Nothing he did here suggests he would to me.
As mentioned above, hope he has a great season and we get some of our money back.
My fondest memory of him is his announcement on Twitter to the Jurassic Park parody, says it all really
Good luck to him
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What exactly did he do to upset some Burnley fans? Tell, please do.
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Dyche on Weghorst after the Brighton game:
"We brought him in because we felt he could operate within the side and add to what the side has done, and apart from scoring he has added to that,' Dyche said.
'We look at all the stats but sometimes it's just on the visual performances of the player, and visually he's been very good.
'Add in the stats and you think that's a player who is very motivated to come in and make a difference. He probably needs a goal to continue all the good work he's doing.'
'I never question my players' final moment of truth, I only question it if they're not getting in the right areas,' Dyche said.
'He's definitely getting in the right areas. He's effective with assists, he's creating his own chances, and he's getting into places that can help the team. We want that to continue and I'm absolutely sure if it does he will get goals.'
"We brought him in because we felt he could operate within the side and add to what the side has done, and apart from scoring he has added to that,' Dyche said.
'We look at all the stats but sometimes it's just on the visual performances of the player, and visually he's been very good.
'Add in the stats and you think that's a player who is very motivated to come in and make a difference. He probably needs a goal to continue all the good work he's doing.'
'I never question my players' final moment of truth, I only question it if they're not getting in the right areas,' Dyche said.
'He's definitely getting in the right areas. He's effective with assists, he's creating his own chances, and he's getting into places that can help the team. We want that to continue and I'm absolutely sure if it does he will get goals.'
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It’s more about what he didn’t do.Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:44 pmWhat exactly did he do to upset some Burnley fans? Tell, please do.
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*sigh*. Why are you comparing Weghorst and Werner? I rated Weghorst for us and think he is a better player than people give him credit for. If Chelsea signed Weghorst, would I rate him at that standard of team? No of course not. Werner was signed to be Chelsea’s main striker, so based on that I don’t rate him to be good enough no. Could he do a good job at a mid table club? Yes of course. I’d have thought you would have known the context of my post.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:53 pmSo you don’t rate Werner but you do Weghorst. What next?
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Followed Blackburn on Instagram, and pulled a strop for coming off at Watford. It’s bizarreIm_not_Robbie_Blake wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:44 pmWhat exactly did he do to upset some Burnley fans? Tell, please do.
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I think with the prolonged anticipated confirmation plenty expected him even banked upon him to become the saviour & disappointment ensued you can rightly have a go at him for his attitude on certain occasions but not for leaving I don’t think some people understand it was agreed as a condition upon relegation he wouldn’t be playing in the championship & he mentioned it to a journalist when perhaps it would have been wiser to keep quiet & let the club deal with it. It could & should have all been handled more diplomatically when he left.Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:44 pmWhat exactly did he do to upset some Burnley fans? Tell, please do.
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Somewhere between absolutely dreadful and being a good player (for us).
Didn't suit us one bit though, and certainly wasn't a head on a stick.
Didn't suit us one bit though, and certainly wasn't a head on a stick.
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There is absolutely nothing to suggest we'd have stayed up with Chris Wood.CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:39 pm
Worse than Wood would have been, even Wood off form. Without doubt, keep Wood we stay up and Dyche is still in a job. Sliding doors.
How can you say he was worse than an off form Chris Wood would have been? Did you forget we actually saw an off form Chris Wood for the first 4-5 months of the season.... we have evidence to go of.
We won 1 game with Chris Wood and were bottom of the table before he left. Weghorst' stats were better than Chris Wood's.
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I agree.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:45 pmI hope he scores 40 and provides 20 assists, gives us a far better chance of shifting him
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So Dyche DID want the signing? Ahhhhh.Papabendi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:46 pmDyche on Weghorst after the Brighton game:
"We brought him in because we felt he could operate within the side and add to what the side has done, and apart from scoring he has added to that,' Dyche said.
'We look at all the stats but sometimes it's just on the visual performances of the player, and visually he's been very good.
'Add in the stats and you think that's a player who is very motivated to come in and make a difference. He probably needs a goal to continue all the good work he's doing.'
'I never question my players' final moment of truth, I only question it if they're not getting in the right areas,' Dyche said.
'He's definitely getting in the right areas. He's effective with assists, he's creating his own chances, and he's getting into places that can help the team. We want that to continue and I'm absolutely sure if it does he will get goals.'
Interestingly he also said swapping 25m Wood for 12m Weghorst was good business.
'On the business side, regardless of Woody having a clause, you'd still go 'it's actually good business' to get that amount of money for a 30-year-old.
'As long as we turn things around for ourselves and Wout continues to play as he is, that's good business as well. He is a top pro who wants to have an effect and is doing.'
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Dyche never really had a crucial say regarding WW or if he did the input was minimal, it was pretty much a straightforward swap plus the additional on top our way but I can safely say had anybody asked dyche would he have preferred an out & out goal scorer with a proven track record who was off form to be replaced by somebody who had never played a game in the English leagues & represented a massive gamble he would have said no, no wonder the relationship soured almost instantly between the 2 men even though the false facade presented differently.RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:31 amSo Dyche DID want the signing? Ahhhhh.
Interestingly he also said swapping 25m Wood for 12m Weghorst was good business.
'On the business side, regardless of Woody having a clause, you'd still go 'it's actually good business' to get that amount of money for a 30-year-old.
'As long as we turn things around for ourselves and Wout continues to play as he is, that's good business as well. He is a top pro who wants to have an effect and is doing.'
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You have zero evidence of this, in fact, the above quotes suggest the opposite.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:00 amDyche never really had a crucial say regarding WW or if he did the input was minimal, it was pretty much a straightforward swap plus the additional on top our way but I can safely say had anybody asked dyche would he have preferred an out & out goal scorer with a proven track record who was off form to be replaced by somebody who had never played a game in the English leagues & represented a massive gamble he would have said no, no wonder the relationship soured almost instantly between the 2 men even though the false facade presented differently.
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It wasn’t dyches debt to pay back he wasn’t bothered about the extra money he was unlikely to see any of it & the evidence proved this to be true he was shortly handed his P45 not long after, dyche wanted more support not support being taken away from him & hamstrung.
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It's funny you mention this. Subscribing to Sky Sports for the first time in years I thought I'd look at some foreign leagues. I've recorded a couple of Bundesliga games and watched Eintracht Frankfurt vs Bayern Munich last night - score was 1-6! However it was the quality of the play that struck me. I compare it to WBA vs Watford, surely a top Championship clash. The German game wasn't as one sided as the score suggests - there were many EF goal opportunities missed (and BM ones). It just seemed scrappy in comparison, lots of mistakes and misplaced passes from both sides. It was good, but not that good. I thought the WBA-Watford match was better quality. I appreciate it's just one game and BM dominate the league but EF were mid table last season.hetheclaret wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:43 pmI'd add to this that the Bundesliga is the closest in style and pace to the Premier League out of Europe's top leagues
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Just going to assume by better quality you mean aesthetically pleasing.Hipper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:25 amIt's funny you mention this. Subscribing to Sky Sports for the first time in years I thought I'd look at some foreign leagues. I've recorded a couple of Bundesliga games and watched Eintracht Frankfurt vs Bayern Munich last night - score was 1-6! However it was the quality of the play that struck me. I compare it to WBA vs Watford, surely a top Championship clash. The German game wasn't as one sided as the score suggests - there were many EF goal opportunities missed (and BM ones). It just seemed scrappy in comparison, lots of mistakes and misplaced passes from both sides. It was good, but not that good. I thought the WBA-Watford match was better quality. I appreciate it's just one game and BM dominate the league but EF were mid table last season.
Rather than West Brom vs Watford being of a higher standard than last seasons europe league winners and one of the best teams in the world?
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Interesting thread with lots of agenda driven opinions on Wout.
IMO
Wood going to Newcastle was a good deal. He has been great for Burnley with regards to scoring and fitting in with football the Sean Dyche way (which as we know is not always pretty). He had a poor season up to January and admitted he was in his ‘comfort zone’. He and Dyche had exchanged words at Wolves after he had been hooked so things weren’t good there.
Back to Wout. I don’t know how he was scouted and who was the driving force behind his signing. You do get the impression it was a ‘Pace’ generated deal as prior to beginning of last season our recruitment in Europe was minimal to say the least.
When he arrived Im sure we gave him the normal Burnley welcome and the crowd were behind him from the off. I remember there had been mutterings of discontent from his former team mates (possibly over his Covid jab status).
I must admit to being disappointed that he was not brilliant in the air despite being a few inches taller that many opponents. I thought that with the Roberts long throw we would create many openings but this rarely happened.
I was impressed in the early stages by his determination to track back and tackle deep in his own half when we were out of possession. We had not seen that from Wood for a long time. It gave the impression he was keen to do battle for Burnley. An early goal gives confidence and although we’ve seen TV clips of his goals elsewhere it never really happened at Burnley.
I liked the way he was able to link up play between midfield and pushing forward with some neat interchanges particularly when we had Cork and Jay in the side. When teamed with Westwood and Barnes it was mainly hoofball into the channels which he never excelled in.
As his confidence appeared to fade he began to look less capable when presented with chances and suddenly he looked slow and cumbersome in some matches (similar to Woody).
The determined attitude shown initially seemed to diminish and it made me wonder if things weren’t as rosy behind the scenes. His petulance at Watford was disgraceful and not cheering when Burnley scored two late goals was indicative of his mindset. Initially I had been fully supportive of Wout and wanted him to fire us to safety.
I now admit I was wrong and after his prompt dismissal of thoughts to stay and ‘help’ us to get back to the Premier league my support for him has quickly dissipated. The quicker he leaves the club the better. Don’t think he has been popular with his team mates either.
I was thinking back to 1971 when we paid £60000 to Bolton for Paul Fletcher as we vainly attempted to avoid top flight
relegation. He struggled to get those early goals until scoring the winner against rivals Blackpool. He had his limitations as a player but he had a massive positive attitude and as such was well liked by team mates and supporters. Love players with the positive attitude who want to be a Claret.
IMO
Wood going to Newcastle was a good deal. He has been great for Burnley with regards to scoring and fitting in with football the Sean Dyche way (which as we know is not always pretty). He had a poor season up to January and admitted he was in his ‘comfort zone’. He and Dyche had exchanged words at Wolves after he had been hooked so things weren’t good there.
Back to Wout. I don’t know how he was scouted and who was the driving force behind his signing. You do get the impression it was a ‘Pace’ generated deal as prior to beginning of last season our recruitment in Europe was minimal to say the least.
When he arrived Im sure we gave him the normal Burnley welcome and the crowd were behind him from the off. I remember there had been mutterings of discontent from his former team mates (possibly over his Covid jab status).
I must admit to being disappointed that he was not brilliant in the air despite being a few inches taller that many opponents. I thought that with the Roberts long throw we would create many openings but this rarely happened.
I was impressed in the early stages by his determination to track back and tackle deep in his own half when we were out of possession. We had not seen that from Wood for a long time. It gave the impression he was keen to do battle for Burnley. An early goal gives confidence and although we’ve seen TV clips of his goals elsewhere it never really happened at Burnley.
I liked the way he was able to link up play between midfield and pushing forward with some neat interchanges particularly when we had Cork and Jay in the side. When teamed with Westwood and Barnes it was mainly hoofball into the channels which he never excelled in.
As his confidence appeared to fade he began to look less capable when presented with chances and suddenly he looked slow and cumbersome in some matches (similar to Woody).
The determined attitude shown initially seemed to diminish and it made me wonder if things weren’t as rosy behind the scenes. His petulance at Watford was disgraceful and not cheering when Burnley scored two late goals was indicative of his mindset. Initially I had been fully supportive of Wout and wanted him to fire us to safety.
I now admit I was wrong and after his prompt dismissal of thoughts to stay and ‘help’ us to get back to the Premier league my support for him has quickly dissipated. The quicker he leaves the club the better. Don’t think he has been popular with his team mates either.
I was thinking back to 1971 when we paid £60000 to Bolton for Paul Fletcher as we vainly attempted to avoid top flight
relegation. He struggled to get those early goals until scoring the winner against rivals Blackpool. He had his limitations as a player but he had a massive positive attitude and as such was well liked by team mates and supporters. Love players with the positive attitude who want to be a Claret.
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Re: Wout Weghorst Debut at Besiktas
He started well for us. Then his performances petered out.
I remember being really impressed by him, but he really struggled from Brentford (away)onwards. He was so poor at Brentford that he didn’t seem to recover any kind of form after that.
I remember being really impressed by him, but he really struggled from Brentford (away)onwards. He was so poor at Brentford that he didn’t seem to recover any kind of form after that.
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Re: Wout Weghorst Debut at Besiktas
Foolish is the man who buys a chair to use for a ladder, then blames the chair when he cannot reach the heights he desires.