The Queen

[Billy Balfour]

Kindly thank you for the info, Lancaster, and may praise be with you, my son. Now leave me alone while I sit on an old gravestone listening to Sisters of Mercy on my boombox.

[Lancasterclaret]

Kindly thank you for the info, Lancaster, and may praise be with you, my son. Now leave me alone while I sit on an old gravestone listening to Sisters of Mercy on my boombox.

I have "Temple of Love" on far too many of my playlists father

[Top Claret]

Your posts always make me giggle mate, so fair play for that

Glad your amused

You should change your handle to Mr Wonderful as it would be far more suiting

[BigChaCha]

It must have felt odd shaking the hand of a British PM who once wanted to abolish the monarchy.

A lot if not most teenagers have extreme left-wing views and when in the real world after a decade or so, they usually come to their senses... Why do you think Labour and the Scottish National party are obsessed with bringing the voting age down?!

[Billy Balfour]

Our new Health Secretary.

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[Billy Balfour]

I think we now have a Govt run by the folks who produce Viz.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I think we now have a Govt run by the folks who produce Viz.

On the plus side as far as I know they haven't appointed someone in the education secretary role who left school without a single qualification and up the stick by 16 and a granny in her 30s.

Viz could well be accurate

[Billy Balfour]

On the plus side as far as I know they haven't appointed someone in the education secretary role who left school without a single qualification and up the stick by 16 and a granny in her 30s.

You mean someone who has actually seen life at the rough end of the stick, and managed to come out of the other end, rather than someone who went to Eton...

[claretonthecoast1882]

You mean someone who has actually seen life at the rough end of the stick, and managed to come out of the other end, rather than someone who went to Eton...

No I didn't mean that, but then due to thinking 99% of mps are useless I have no need or desire to defend 1 section due to how I may vote or have voted

[Lancasterclaret]

On the plus side, it was nice to see the PM actually answer questions at PMQs

Big positive in her favour, though god knows how long that will last if things continue to head south at the speed they are going

[Billy Balfour]

No I didn't mean that, but then due to thinking 99% of mps are useless I have no need or desire to defend 1 section due to how I may vote or have voted

Nice bit of backtracking.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Nice bit of backtracking.

Not backtracking at all. You mocked someone from 1 side then became slightly defensive towards the other side.

Just never fail to be amused by adults who constantly mock 1 side but see little wrong with their own side. Part of the reason why I gave up watching Question Time due to it representing a playground at junior school.

I don't vote so I have no dog in the fight but those that do and become blinkered by it are normally good value.

[Billy Balfour]

Not backtracking at all. You mocked someone from 1 side then became slightly defensive towards the other side.

Just never fail to be amused by adults who constantly mock 1 side but see little wrong with their own side.

At least I have the decency to own my own posts, unlike you and your cowardly backtracking. Anyhow, I'll leave it at that.

[dermotdermot]

Our new Health Secretary.


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God help us.

[claretonthecoast1882]

At least I have the decency to own my own posts, unlike you and your cowardly backtracking. Anyhow, I'll leave it at that.

Probably wise, ironic use of cowardly

[Steve1956]

Our new Health Secretary.


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She looks good fun,you can't beat a woman that likes a smoke & a drink,who gives a shite about how she looks as long as she does the job she's ok in my book.

[Billy Balfour]

She looks good fun,you can't beat a woman that likes a smoke & a drink,who gives a shite about how she looks as long as she does the job she's ok in my book.

It's all fine and dandy to be brash about this on a message board, however, lifestyles and health outcomes are intricately linked, and it's a message that is pushed by her Dept. In fact, they have to push this message because of the cost to individuals regarding poor life expectancy etc, not to mention the immense pressure that our NHS is under. I've seen individuals turn their life around after NHS/GP intervention. People who will now live longer and lead a more active life.

[Billy Balfour]

Intrinsically linked, I mean.

[Steve1956]

It's all fine and dandy to be brash about this on a message board, however, lifestyles and health outcomes are intricately linked, and it's a message that is pushed by her Dept. In fact, they have to push this message because of the cost to individuals regarding poor life expectancy etc, not to mention the immense pressure that our NHS is under. I've seen individuals turn their life around after NHS/GP intervention. People who will now live longer and lead a more active life.

Maybe she is going to do a before and after and shame us all into leading a more healthy livestyle by changing her ways by ditching the booze & fags and slimming down to a fighting weight of 8 stone
In these days of Woke(whatever that shite is)and all these snowflakes it's simply not on to post a picture of a fat woman with a smoke and drink in her hand with the caption our new Heath secretary

[bfcjg]

I thought this was about the Queen ?
Regardless of being a royalist or not I always show respect to people older then me ( sadly they are getting less and less ‍) you cannot learn the wisdom and life skills they have, you have to get them through experience.

[Hipper]

Dyche to the palace

Dyche to number 10

Dyche to Westminster.

Just good to get those out of the way. I am struggling to think that he would have been a worse choice for the middle option.

Truss only got in with just over 80,000 votes. Dyche would get more than that just from those with burnley tendencies.

He wouldn't take the last two jobs. They don't pay enough.

[Buxtonclaret]

He wouldn't take the last two jobs. They don't pay enough.

Reckon the 'Invisible ' earnings the merry folk of Downing Street seem to find would far outstrip the contents of any motorway services carrier bag routine would amass.

[Hipper]

You mean someone who has actually seen life at the rough end of the stick, and managed to come out of the other end, rather than someone who went to Eton...

I thought they used to get the end of the stick at Eton - six of the best and all that.

[Hipper]

On topic, does the queen actually have to die before transferring the role to, presumably, Charles.

And, while I'm here, does it have to be to Charles. Can there be an agreement to go direct to William? I mean, we don't want all the fuss of getting Charles coronated and then having to go through it all again a short while after. There are far more important things to be getting on with.

[Billy Balfour]

On the first one - the Queen can abdicate if she chose to.

On the second - the law of succession would have to change.

[tiger76]

On topic, does the queen actually have to die before transferring the role to, presumably, Charles.

And, while I'm here, does it have to be to Charles. Can there be an agreement to go direct to William? I mean, we don't want all the fuss of getting Charles coronated and then having to go through it all again a short while after. There are far more important things to be getting on with.

I stand to be corrected, but as far as I'm aware the Queen can choose to abdicate at any time, and then I assume the role automatically defaults to Charlie, and that's when things might get interesting from a constitutional perspective, because Charles is nowhere as popular as Lizzie, and this is borne out by opinion polls over a number of years.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

On topic, does the queen actually have to die before transferring the role to, presumably, Charles.

And, while I'm here, does it have to be to Charles. Can there be an agreement to go direct to William? I mean, we don't want all the fuss of getting Charles coronated and then having to go through it all again a short while after. There are far more important things to be getting on with.

Yes, because she's stated quite clearly she's Queen until she dies, unless she becomes incapacitated at which point Charles becomes regent until she passes and then assumes his role as king.

It cannot legally skip Charles and go to William, unless he chooses to abdicate, but he won't.

[jrgbfc]

If she isn't fit enough to perform her "duties" she should step aside and let Charles take over.

[tiger76]

If she isn't fit enough to perform her "duties" she should step aside and let Charles take over.

I fear it's reaching that stage now, Privy Council meeting postponed tonight.

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[Billy Balfour]

I wouldn't write Charles off. He could prove to be a good constitutional sovereign and should fair better than the first two who were called Charles, especially the first one.

[Rowls]

I wouldn't write Charles off. He could prove to be a good constitutional sovereign and should fair better than the first two who were called Charles, especially the first one.

We're in trouble if he's anything like the previous Charleseses.

[AlargeClaret]

You mean someone who has actually seen life at the rough end of the stick, and managed to come out of the other end, rather than someone who went to Eton...

Just because Rayner left school at 16 ,thick as mince in a jizz splattered haze , doesn’t necessarily make her better than highly educated types . AR’s problem is not her will do good for working people it’s her accent which makes her sound far thicker than she is . She needs a good bath some new clobber ,a stylist and elocution lessons and she’ll be fine.

[Hipper]

Just because Rayner left school at 16 ,thick as mince in a jizz splattered haze , doesn’t necessarily make her better than highly educated types . AR’s problem is not her will do good for working people it’s her accent which makes her sound far thicker than she is . She needs a good bath some new clobber ,a stylist and elocution lessons and she’ll be fine.

I always liked Kenneth Clarke, not necessarily his politics. He spoke like he was speaking to his mates down the pub - which he did seem to frequent a fair bit - dressed as he liked, including hush puppies, and seem to have married his grandmother.

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[GodIsADeeJay81]

The Queen is reportedly under medical supervision after concerns for her health

[bfcjg]

I don't think we will see much more of her TBH. Hopefully people who get a buzz out of slagging off the monarchy will ease back and show a vulnerable old lady some respect.

[evensteadiereddie]

I'm sure they will, I don't think any body's dislike of the Monarchy is aimed at the Queen personally.
Let's face it, she's a very old lady and is extremely frail and vulnerable.
The best medics in the world can only do so much.
I only hope when the time comes, we're not treated to the mawkish, disrespectful kind of faux mourning that accompanied Diana's death.

[conyoviejo]

I do hope the Queen pulls through her illnesses and goes on to reach a hundred yrs old,she's a wonderful lady and an even better Monarch and ambassador for our country. Long live the Queen.❤

[evensteadiereddie]

Unlikely but, yes, she's always been decent enough.

[martin_p]

I'm sure they will, I don't think any body's dislike of the Monarchy is aimed at the Queen personally.
Let's face it, she's a very old lady and is extremely frail and vulnerable.
The best medics in the world can only do so much.
I only hope when the time comes, we're not treated to the mawkish, disrespectful kind of faux mourning that accompanied Diana's death.

I think that you need to accept that many people will be genuinely upset and move on.

[LoveCurryPies]

Prince William and senior Royals on their way to Balmoral.

[Billy Balfour]

It's not looking good. Apparently, other royals are heading to Balmoral.

[4midable]

I think shes on her way
Very good innings though

[evensteadiereddie]

I think that you need to accept that many people will be genuinely upset and move on.

I'm sure they will be genuinely upset and, yes, eventually they'll move on.
In the meantime - the point which appears to have eluded you - I sincerely hope the media don't spoil a dignified and quite momentous occasion in our history by flogging it to death.
We saw it with Diana, the People's Princess and all that ********....

[claret2018]

She's got a pretty good chance of seeing 16 I reckon.

Bet you a tenner she doesn’t.

[martin_p]

I'm sure they will be genuinely upset and, yes, eventually they'll move on.
In the meantime - the point which appears to have eluded you - I sincerely hope the media don't spoil a dignified and quite momentous occasion in our history by flogging it to death.

The media will give the end of a seventy year reign the attention it deserves.

[claret2018]

I'm sure they will be genuinely upset and, yes, eventually they'll move on.
In the meantime - the point which appears to have eluded you - I sincerely hope the media don't spoil a dignified and quite momentous occasion in our history by flogging it to death.

It will be the biggest media flogging you’ve ever seen. Diana x10

[evensteadiereddie]

I'm sure they'll give it the attention it deserves, Martin, and I hope it's in a dignified, respectful way.

[evensteadiereddie]

It will be the biggest media flogging you’ve ever seen. Diana x10

I hope not.



I wonder how long sport will shut down for.

[Hipper]

In the meantime - the point which appears to have eluded you - I sincerely hope the media don't spoil a dignified and quite momentous occasion in our history by flogging it to death.
We saw it with Diana, the People's Princess and all that ********....

I don't like the idea of Royalty/monarchs etc. but recognise the average UK resident won't agree. However it is the media's obsession with them that I find very irritating. Your hope has no chance.

[Claret Till I Die]

I do hope the Queen pulls through her illnesses and goes on to reach a hundred yrs old,she's a wonderful lady and an even better Monarch and ambassador for our country. Long live the Queen.❤

^This