Trevor Sinclair

[fanzone]

Anyone see his Tweet on Thursday?

[cockneyclaret]

I think most of Twitter has

[beddie]

Has he been sacked yet?

[jojomk1]

OK
So what has he said

[Walkerpool]

Just another racist footballer.

[2 Bee Holed]

I've had to look it up.

He has apologised, saying it was an
Ill tmed comment.

In other words, I still believe I am right. I just shouldn't have said so at that moment.

It appears that some people stoll believe that the Monarch is responsible for all laws and policies in the country.

Perhaps if he thinks that, he does need to be taken off air.

[fanzone]

Seems now to be pointing towards mental health. What a cop out

[claretandy]

He said that black and brown people shouldn't mourn the Queens death, because racism or something..

[2 Bee Holed]

He has said that black and brown people shouldn't mourn the death of the Queen, because despite racism being made illegal in the 1960's, it has flourished during her reign.
Or words to that effect.
He had apologised saying his comments were Ill timed.

[Burnley1989]

Seems now to be pointing towards mental health. What a cop out

Always keep that card in the back pocket it seems

[Claretforever]

He’s not the brightest is the lad.

[2 Bee Holed]

He’s not the brightest is the lad.

I wonder what colour of skin the police officer had?

[LeadBelly]

A bloke who in 2014 was "quizzed by police on suspicion of assaulting his wife".
In 2017 (court case 2018) he was stopped for drink driving (found to be twice the limit and subsequently banned from driving for 20 months) then proceeded to abuse the copper - subsequently admitted racially abusing the policeman (150 hours community service) and proceeded to urinate in the police car.
Employed, nevertheless by Talksport (would a convicted white racist have got a job in the media I ask?)

The other day declares that black/brown people should not mourn the queen because racism has been allowed to thrive under her reign. So a convicted (and admitted) racist offender makes an unfounded accusation of racism against a dead and hugely respected person.

He was suspended by TalkSport.

Subsequently has made an half-hearted apology of the "sorry IF it caused any offence" type - without actually admitting any wrongdoing.
Having played the race card and not getting away with it, now plays the mental health card.

I suspect he wont get away with that either- maybe he'll come out as gay or transgender next to try and keep the job.

[bfcjg]

If this is kept on topic it will a miracle, however anyone who speaks on behalf of people who in the main don't share his views is an egotistical idiot, especially what he said when he said it , the first people to condem it it were the people he " talked " for.
Actually what is a convicted drink driving racist who it is alleged battered a woman he was married to doing anyway near a microphone ?

[Rileybobs]

To even think what he thinks is stupid. To say it, especially when he did, takes stupid to a new level. Not sure on what grounds exactly he should lose his job, but you could understand why TalkSport would want to distance themselves from him in a similar way to someone like LeTissier.

[basil6345789]

He has a history of bring stupid.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

With a bit of luck I won't have to listen him defending anything and everything City, because that's tiresome.
He called in sick one day recently, when City last went out of the champions League, that was predictable.

I'm pretty sure the City owners could have someone executed in the centre circle at half time and he'd try to defend them or justify it.

He's an idiot.

[wilks_bfc]

Was posted on the day he tweeted it

The thread didn’t last long

[NL Claret]

As a lad growing up in Bury in the 80s I played against Trevor Sinclair at football and basketball. He was commonly known as Chalkie.

[Vegas Claret]

crap person, crap pundit

[fanzone]

Just my opinion but true racism has vanished in this country, the belief that people of colour are beneath "white people" doesn't exist or if it does its the minority, it certainly doesn't exist in my eyes. Being called black should be on par with fat or ginger. It's more or an observation than anything else.



Naturally people will get offended but people get offended by the weather these days.

[claptrappers_union]

There’s a time and a place.

[gandhisflipflop]

Just my opinion but true racism has vanished in this country, the belief that people of colour are beneath "white people" doesn't exist or if it does its the minority, it certainly doesn't exist in my eyes. Being called black should be on par with fat or ginger. It's more or an observation than anything else.



Naturally people will get offended but people get offended by the weather these days.

Eddie will be along when he wakes up from his bedroom at his mums to tell you how wrong you are.

[Swizzlestick]

If you believe the statement “true racism has vanished in this country” to be correct then I don’t really know what to say to you.

[davideyresleftear]

Just my opinion but true racism has vanished in this country, the belief that people of colour are beneath "white people" doesn't exist or if it does its the minority, it certainly doesn't exist in my eyes. Being called black should be on par with fat or ginger. It's more or an observation than anything else.



Naturally people will get offended but people get offended by the weather these days.

I know it's your opinion so I'm not setting our to trash it or anything, but I have black family members and I have seen for myself the different and negative treatment they get purely for skin color. It becomes especially apparent when I am with them in situations where there's no reason to treat them differently to me.

But I do agree that it's the minority, and by and large many people in this country are kind and decent and don't harbour those views.

[Loyal Supporter]

Just my opinion but true racism has vanished in this country, the belief that people of colour are beneath "white people" doesn't exist or if it does its the minority, it certainly doesn't exist in my eyes. Being called black should be on par with fat or ginger. It's more or an observation than anything else.



Naturally people will get offended but people get offended by the weather these days.

I can't decide if this is naivety or stupidity. Maybe both?

[Socrates]

Just my opinion but true racism has vanished in this country

I’m gonna stick my neck out here and guess that you are a white guy.

[claret2018]

Every day I read something gobsmackingly stupid on here. Absolutely incredible stuff.

[Hapag Lloyd]

Every day I read something gobsmackingly stupid on here. Absolutely incredible stuff.

Same, can’t believe Sinclair actually said that.

[Top Claret]

Comes over as a right proper self righteous little prick well lets hope he gets what he deserves the sack. He was obviously drunk when he made the tweet, like he was when he had his previous bout of racism when he abuses the police officer.
Idiot's like Sinclair shouldn't be given a voice as they are causing a divide in our society and making some people take sides, just like taking the knee as

[Clarets4me]

This Country has moved on at a rate of knots in terms of attitudes over the past 40 years, since I was 18 ...

The early episodes of " Only fools and horses " had to redubbed by David Jason & Nicholas Lyndhurst before going to repeats on " Gold ", due to some dated terms which were acceptable in the early 1980's, such as " nipping to the P***i shop " & " picking up a C***ky takeaway ". We have Gay Civil marriage, and at least informal blessings of such unions in the establishment church. Our Home Secretary, Foreign Secretary and Chancellor are from BAME backgrounds, and they are not the first, and we're now on our 3rd female Prime Minister.

I have witnessed examples of discrimination from all communities. A former Colleague was forced to quit a sales job at a furniture retailer in Oldham, as Asian customers ( 80% of the footfall ), would ignore him and go to his Asian colleagues, and these weren't 1st generation, so language issues would be no excuse. Indians of a certain " caste " have told me that they suffer far less discrimination in the UK than they do in their native land. An Iraqi-Kurd once shook his head talking to me, " This a great Country, you can see a doctor for free and without paying a bribe to get an appointment, you don't have guns, you don't fear the police knocking on your door, you can marry who you want, dress as you please and worship whichever God you choose, the British people don't know they're born ! "

No, Britain isn't perfect, no Country is ... but ask yourself why thousands risk their lives to get here !

[Rileybobs]

This Country has moved on at a rate of knots in terms of attitudes over the past 40 years, since I was 18 ...

The early episodes of " Only fools and horses " had to redubbed by David Jason & Nicholas Lyndhurst before going to repeats on " Gold ", due to some dated terms which were acceptable in the early 1980's, such as " nipping to the P***i shop " & " picking up a C***ky takeaway ". We have Gay Civil marriage, and at least informal blessings of such unions in the establishment church. Our Home Secretary, Foreign Secretary and Chancellor are from BAME backgrounds, and they are not the first, and we're now on our 3rd female Prime Minister.

I have witnessed examples of discrimination from all communities. A former Colleague was forced to quit a sales job at a furniture retailer in Oldham, as Asian customers ( 80% of the footfall ), would ignore him and go to his Asian colleagues, and these weren't 1st generation, so language issues would be no excuse. Indians of a certain " caste " have told me that they suffer far less discrimination in the UK than they do in their native land. An Iraqi-Kurd once shook his head talking to me, " This a great Country, you can see a doctor for free and without paying a bribe to get an appointment, you don't have guns, you don't fear the police knocking on your door, you can marry who you want, dress as you please and worship whichever God you choose, the British people don't know they're born ! "

No, Britain isn't perfect, no Country is ... but ask yourself why thousands risk their lives to get here !

Nice stories. But what do they have to do with Trevor Sinclair?

[AlargeClaret]

Just my opinion but true racism has vanished in this country, the belief that people of colour are beneath "white people" doesn't exist or if it does its the minority, it certainly doesn't exist in my eyes. Being called black should be on par with fat or ginger. It's more or an observation than anything else.



Naturally people will get offended but people get offended by the weather these days.

“ fat or ginger “ are very very mildly offensive comments for some . “Black “ isn’t remotely offensive

[gawthorpe_view]

https://twitter.com/Tyneside_Blades/sta ... 7mdAQ&s=19

[TheFamilyCat]

“ fat or ginger “ are very very mildly offensive comments for some . “Black “ isn’t remotely offensive

Of course "black" isn't offensive to anyone. The context it is used in, or other words that are used alongside it can be though .

[Rowls]

Nice stories. But what do they have to do with Trevor Sinclair?

The country has changed. Trevor Sinclair hasn't.

[Clarets4me]

Nice stories. But what do they have to do with Trevor Sinclair?

He tweeted that " Racism has been allowed to thrive " ( since being outlawed in the 1960's )
I was making the point that this is most certainly not the case, by use of examples ...

[Spike]

He is unemployable after his stupid comments

[2 Bee Holed]

He is unemployable after his stupid comments

You'd have thought that would have been the case after the court case and his sacking by the BBC. Clearly not though because it appears Talk Sport employed him.

[daveisaclaret]

Nice stories. But what do they have to do with Trevor Sinclair?

I think he's making the point that when a person of colour gives an opinion on racism in this country we should listen to them

[Chobulous]

I think he's making the point that when a person of colour gives an opinion on racism in this country we should listen to them

That comment in itself is racist, because implicit in there is the notion that we should not listen to anyone else’s opinion. That is the minefield that this debate has become.

[welsbyswife]

Where's Jakub? He could clear all this up.

[Top Claret]

You'd have thought that would have been the case after the court case and his sacking by the BBC. Clearly not though because it appears Talk Sport employed him.

He would have been but he is Black

[welsbyswife]

He would have been but he is Black

Nasty.

[Top Claret]

Nasty.

Nothing nasty about the truth, he was just a box ticking exercise

[welsbyswife]

So did Sky only stick with Carragher after he gobbed on someone because he was white? The fact that you can only see things through colour is nasty. No two ways about it.

[Top Claret]

So did Sky only stick with Carragher after he gobbed on someone because he was white? The fact that you can only see things through colour is nasty. No two ways about it.

There is no comparison as Carragher wasn't charged for any offences and certainly not a racist like Sinclair

[welsbyswife]

The irony of a racist having a pop at a racist is quite amusing.

[dsr]

I think he's making the point that when a person of colour gives an opinion on racism in this country we should listen to them

Especially a man as familiar with racism as he is. Few of us know what it's like to be convicted of a racist crime.

I don't accept that "black " trumps "criminal" when it comes to deciding who to listen to. There are plenty of more reasonable black people to listen to. Sinclair's chip on his shoulder is surely too big for us to learn much from his opinions.

[Damo]

The guy is as thick as mince, and proof (if it was needed) that bigotry isn't confined to people of one particular complection.
Still, folk will defend his views via one excuse or another