Maybe. But he's right. I don't watch international football and Southgate is a main contributor why.
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I think Gareth will be starting to feel the heat, and rightly so.
We’ve been fairly awful since the Euro final.
We’ve been fairly awful since the Euro final.
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England are a stale as Burnley were under Dyche. That’s the reality of it
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Well, that was dreadful.
But I'm not really bothered. I, like (I suspect) most of us on here, and indeed most English football fans, put their club far in front of their country.
But I'm not really bothered. I, like (I suspect) most of us on here, and indeed most English football fans, put their club far in front of their country.
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Not the result we wanted but I've seen enough tonight to convince me we have a real chance of winning the World Cup in Qatar.
Southgate has been a master at getting his England teams to peak when it matters and it feels like its gonna happen again.
Southgate has been a master at getting his England teams to peak when it matters and it feels like its gonna happen again.
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He needs to be boosted with more than that pal
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Even though we've had 'success' it's just somehow soulless.
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Ha ha ha
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Hard to see this team getting close to winning the WC. Too many players out of form.
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Watched the game tonight.
Thankfully I am boycotting the World Cup. So will not need to watch this rubbish for some time.
Thankfully I am boycotting the World Cup. So will not need to watch this rubbish for some time.
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7 (SEVEN) and a half hours since England last scored from open play.
This is the story of Southgate's England.
This is the story of Southgate's England.
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Relegation’s not the end of the world though. Love the Championship, real division and loads of derbies. Bring on next season.
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7 1/2 hours without a goal in open play. He needs to be sacked before the WC.
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Didn’t need much resting as your argument was as weak as it gets. 7 hours of not being able to score in open play. Relegated bottom of the table in the nations lge with a game to spare. Regardless of whether its a meaningful tournament or not. All things being equal we have performed the worst of all teams participating, we are not progressing . There is no identifiable style - shape - plan or tactics.
And your assessment is Gareths the man and has it in hand.! It’s not my judgement that’s in question..
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Look back at them two finals and tell me how many matches were close to good performances? Apart from the one big win, against Paraguay I think, we were bang average.
These players all play better than this for their club sides that is down to GS. All his playing career he was a loser and he has carried that into his managerial career. Talks a good game but can’t coach it.
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It will still mostly be a dog **** watch even if that happened. Wales and Scotland make better viewing.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:40 pmNot the result we wanted but I've seen enough tonight to convince me we have a real chance of winning the World Cup in Qatar.
Southgate has been a master at getting his England teams to peak when it matters and it feels like its gonna happen again.
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That was aimed at devils advocate for his very funny comment.
Soulless boring ineffective football. And that was Italy and they still won!!!!
Soulless boring ineffective football. And that was Italy and they still won!!!!
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Maybe go back to 3 right backs for the next game?
Still, at least Maguire kept his 100% record up for the season.
Still, at least Maguire kept his 100% record up for the season.
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Peak?? We lost 3 games at that world cup with it handed on a plate.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:40 pmNot the result we wanted but I've seen enough tonight to convince me we have a real chance of winning the World Cup in Qatar.
Southgate has been a master at getting his England teams to peak when it matters and it feels like its gonna happen again.
Got an easy run at the euros and fluffed that.
Clueless tactically he shouldn't be in the job
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Hungary won the group, joke of a competition. Poor football, thought both sides were dull as shite. Boring game, Germans were poor too. England have been a boring side to watch since I was born, nothing will change, at least keep the manager with the best international major tournament record and try bore our way through it.
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Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:40 pmNot the result we wanted but I've seen enough tonight to convince me we have a real chance of winning the World Cup in Qatar.
Southgate has been a master at getting his England teams to peak when it matters and it feels like its gonna happen again.
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Unfortunately for you England are playing on Monday so you will be watching this rubbish very shortly.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:41 pmWatched the game tonight.
Thankfully I am boycotting the World Cup. So will not need to watch this rubbish for some time.
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If players are out of form , isn't it up to manager to pick the players inform or at least play them in the correct position . Maguire , Dier and Shaw should be no where near this squad.
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Funny reading the complete overreaction on here every time England play though, not sure why some of you watch it. Lets go back to the Mclaren days, Euro final and WC semi final just isn't good enough!
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I mean, making up what someone else has said on consecutive posts is not how to win an argument. Well done though.Goalposts wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:42 pmDidn’t need much resting as your argument was as weak as it gets. 7 hours of not being able to score in open play. Relegated bottom of the table in the nations lge with a game to spare. Regardless of whether its a meaningful tournament or not. All things being equal we have performed the worst of all teams participating, we are not progressing . There is no identifiable style - shape - plan or tactics.
And your assessment is Gareths the man and has it in hand.! It’s not my judgement that’s in question..
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The Euro's was fantastic and once Southgate gets things going in Qatar the country will be gripped once again.Stanbill05 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:43 pmIt will still mostly be a dog **** watch even if that happened. Wales and Scotland make better viewing.
I just feel sorry for the poor souls willing us to fail who wont allow themselves to enjoy our success cos of the ridiculous position they have taken over Southgate and his successful tenure as the manager of our national team
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If we're talking about form, Dier should be the first name on the team sheet...... been incredible under Conteexpoultryboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:46 pmIf players are out of form , isn't it up to manager to pick the players inform or at least play them in the correct position . Maguire , Dier and Shaw should be no where near this squad.
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Re: Italy v England
1 goal in 5 NL games, and that was a penalty, England for some reason have failed to kick on from that Euro campaign.
Serious questions for GS to answer before the WC, and on that display England will be nowhere near in Qatar,
He's simply sucking the life out of this England side, and I don't blame the travelling fans for expressing their frustration.
Bellingham the one shining light amongst many under par performances.
Southgate deserves to be given the WC based on his past successes, but the build-up has hardly been ideal.
Serious questions for GS to answer before the WC, and on that display England will be nowhere near in Qatar,
He's simply sucking the life out of this England side, and I don't blame the travelling fans for expressing their frustration.
Bellingham the one shining light amongst many under par performances.
Southgate deserves to be given the WC based on his past successes, but the build-up has hardly been ideal.
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Really poor, time for a change. No chance. World Cup, ha, ha. Always looked forward to watching my country play football, now I think I may give up until we get a manager with some idea how to entertain us.
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It is true, we’ve always been boring. McLaren / Capello days. Jeez.
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Re: Italy v England
Properly turgid that.
Seen more life at a cemetery
Seen more life at a cemetery
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That was a really weak Italy team tonight too. Missing most of their best players. Very disappointing.
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This team has been created in a footy robot factory...with a footy robot manager for good measure.
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People pretending like we've ever been exciting to watch, absolute dross viewing for 20+ years. At least this team is boring it's way to later stages of major tournaments I guess.
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that's one of your worst yet DA. LolDevils_Advocate wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:40 pmNot the result we wanted but I've seen enough tonight to convince me we have a real chance of winning the World Cup in Qatar.
Southgate has been a master at getting his England teams to peak when it matters and it feels like its gonna happen again.
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These players (although not all of them) play better for their club sides for a number of reasons and they’re not even difficult to consider. Firstly they are playing alongside better players. Do you think Foden would prefer to play alongside his England team mates or Bernardo Silva and KDB? Secondly, players train with their clubs almost every day, for hours at a time. Thirdly, their club managers and staff are better, because the best coaches work in club football and are paid more for it.Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:42 pmLook back at them two finals and tell me how many matches were close to good performances? Apart from the one big win, against Paraguay I think, we were bang average.
These players all play better than this for their club sides that is down to GS. All his playing career he was a loser and he has carried that into his managerial career. Talks a good game but can’t coach it.
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Re: Italy v England
How many goals has Kane got for England?
Maybe get someone to get the ball into the box, especially when 1-0 down.
The history books will show Southgate as a good England manager. Never trust history books for facts.
Maybe get someone to get the ball into the box, especially when 1-0 down.
The history books will show Southgate as a good England manager. Never trust history books for facts.
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Just stop drinking Rileybobs as its not helping you put forward any sort of logical counter argument. If youve not been drinking try giving your head a wobble. Still no luck - make sure you didn’t watch the Germany v Hungary game it was the same result. - if none of that helps or any of the above does not account for your logic. May i suggest crown green bowls as a sport deserving of your analytical critique..
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Looking forward to the interviews. See how many excuses/ cliches can be wheeled out.
As a warm up, on the BBC website Matthew Upson says "'They weren't pulling off each other"
As a warm up, on the BBC website Matthew Upson says "'They weren't pulling off each other"
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Don't knock Kane, he was our best central defender tonight.Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:58 pmHow many goals has Kane got for England?
Maybe get someone to get the ball into the box, especially when 1-0 down.
The history books will show Southgate as a good England manager. Never trust history books for facts.
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Southgate should go, he should never have had the job in the first place.
I know it isn't going to happen now, but we are so poor, and boring to boot.
His team talks must have players nodding off before they leave the dressing room.
I'm not sure we have a 'plan', it looks more like he picks 11 players, and just puts them on the pitch to make it up as they go along.
Some of the players are so out of form they can't play for their clubs, but even if they did, we aren't a team. We play like a bunch of strangers.
Awful, boring, useless football. Again and again.
I know it isn't going to happen now, but we are so poor, and boring to boot.
His team talks must have players nodding off before they leave the dressing room.
I'm not sure we have a 'plan', it looks more like he picks 11 players, and just puts them on the pitch to make it up as they go along.
Some of the players are so out of form they can't play for their clubs, but even if they did, we aren't a team. We play like a bunch of strangers.
Awful, boring, useless football. Again and again.
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Gareth Southgate has now managed to relegate both teams he's managed.
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Dyche for England ? .....Well someone had to say it.
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