Muric

[LTUK89]

I think there’s a very good chance we go up if BPF plays the rest of the season.

[RVclaret]

I think there’s a very good chance we go up if BPF plays the rest of the season.

That’s quite a big call!

What are you basing it on?

[Targetman]

I think there’s a very good chance we go up if BPF plays the rest of the season.

So you don't think there's a very good chance of us going up if Muric plays for the rest of the season?

[Elizabeth]

I'll reserve judgement on any improvement or increased confidence in his own game until Peacock - Farrell plays a game where he has something to do in the Championship unlike last Saturday against a toothless Coventry

[LTUK89]

So you don't think there's a very good chance of us going up if Muric plays for the rest of the season?

I think if BPF had been number 1 from the get go we would be top of the league. I haven’t seen Muric make a game affecting save yet, bar (for arguments sake) the 1v1 vs Blackpool at 3-3. Don’t suggest that the 1v1 vs Stoke was a decent save. A striker of quality would have dinked him on instinct. I think he could have done much better for the goals conceded to Preston, Cardiff and Stoke. BPF saves all 3 for me and we’re top of the league if he does.

[Tricky Trevor]

Don’t suggest that the 1v1 vs Stoke was a decent save. A striker of quality would have dinked him on instinct. I think he could have done much better for the goals conceded to Preston, Cardiff and Stoke.

Totally agree with your point about the Stoke save. He just came out big and the ball hit him, a decent striker would have buried it. Also agree with your earlier point, I’ve not seen him make a WOW save yet but I have seen him concede to many soft goals.

[Swizzlestick]

He made a big save against Bristol City, just before half time, but I guess that doesn’t fit the narrative.

Making comments like we’d have been top if BPF was in the nets is nothing more than spurious nonsense. I’m not even sure what it’s based on - he didn’t have a shot in anger against him in the Coventry game.

[RVclaret]

Peacock-Farrell made a bit of a mess of the late WBA equaliser didn’t he? Incidentally, Muric was outstanding that night (backed up by getting into the league team of the week) until he went off and we’d have likely won had he still been on.

[taio]

Peacock-Farrell made a bit of a mess of the late WBA equaliser didn’t he? Incidentally, Muric was outstanding that night (backed up by getting into the league team of the week) until he went off and we’d have likely won had he still been on.

No, it was Roberts I think who made a bit of a mess of it.

[RVclaret]

No, it was Roberts I think who made a bit of a mess of it.

Still think the shot could be saved (got a hand to it) or even cross claimed but yes you are also right

[Colburn_Claret]

BPF, who I like, has played 1 game ffs.
You can't judge any player on one game. If he has a mare on Saturday, the same people singing his praises, will be slagging him off.

It's great that we have a strong back up, every team needs one, but Muric will remain our first choice, and we should be backing him to get his confidence levels up. He isn't Nick Pope, but so what, how many are. So many of the goals we have conceded, have come from an outfield players cock up. It happens, but we don't always call for them to be dropped. He's also pulled off several outstanding saves. He also plays that football on the deck passing, that is integral to the system VK wants to play.
Muric is fine, and he'll get better, as the team get better, when he has learnt whether he needs to come for a ball, or whether he can rely on the defence to deal with it.

[Targetman]

I think if BPF had been number 1 from the get go we would be top of the league. I haven’t seen Muric make a game affecting save yet, bar (for arguments sake) the 1v1 vs Blackpool at 3-3. Don’t suggest that the 1v1 vs Stoke was a decent save. A striker of quality would have dinked him on instinct. I think he could have done much better for the goals conceded to Preston, Cardiff and Stoke. BPF saves all 3 for me and we’re top of the league if he does.

You haven't actually answered my question?

I agree with you about the goals v Cardiff and Stoke, POSSIBLY he might have done better. Having said that, Stoke's goal was a very powerful header from close range. Against Preston he slipped as he was preparing to take the high ball, I don't think any blame can be attached to him for that.

I don't feel that Peacock-Farrell is good enough to be our no.1 keeper for any length of time. When he was given his opportunity in the Premier League around 18 months ago he couldn't grasp that chance and was replaced by Norris.

I was talking in the summer to 2 Sheffield Wednesday fans who said Peacock-Farrell always seems to have a mistake in him, particularly when not under pressure.

[boatshed bill]

Daft isn't it?
I brought BPF into the thread because it looked to me as if he has gained some confidence.
Perhaps being coached differently?
I didn't intend to start a thread about which of our 'keepers is the better, or another where "mistakes" are analysed.

[Burnley1989]

We need to start letting sides get more shots off so we can prove who the best keeper is… we aren’t conceding enough to know who’s best… and I keep being told our defence is our weak link?

[Devils_Advocate]

Personally I would like to see Jakub take penalties into both keepers at half time and then he could organise a poll for the supporters to select the best keeper. Jakub could then repeat this process once a month and the keeper who wins the vote gets to be the goalkeeper for a month.

If its a good enough process for murderers than I think its good enough for selecting who our best keeper is

[Bosscat]

Over the past 12 years we have been blessed with GK's. Perhaps N Pope and T Heaton might have fared differently with this defence in front of them ...

Come on people, we have a raw young side learning their trade at the coal face ... get behind them all ... I reckon we are witnessing the birth of a new generation of heroes in the Claret and Blue of Burnley FC

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[Hipper]

Is Norris still at the club as I noticed that Franchi was on the bench at Coventry.

What's Norris's purpose if Franchi is ahead of him?

[Claret Till I Die]

Norris was left out of the 25 players submitted to the league

[Claret Till I Die]

Norris was left out of the 25 players submitted to the league

[NRC]

That’s quite a big call!

What are you basing it on?

unreal, right? On the one hand we have folk saying Muric hasn't made any game-changing, or even enough saves..... and on the other swapping him out would make the difference. And this about a team with one defeat.

[dougcollins]

Personally I would like to see Jakub take penalties into both keepers at half time and then he could organise a poll for the supporters to select the best keeper. Jakub could then repeat this process once a month and the keeper who wins the vote gets to be the goalkeeper for a month.

If its a good enough process for murderers than I think its good enough for selecting who our best keeper is

I think Joe was pretty good at pens. Just hammered them.

[boatshed bill]

Is Norris still at the club as I noticed that Franchi was on the bench at Coventry.

What's Norris's purpose if Franchi is ahead of him?

Not good enough, but still under contract.

[beddie]

Still think if we had a more dominant CH we’d avoid conceding these late goals.

[boatshed bill]

Still think if we had a more dominant CH we’d avoid conceding these late goals.

I think a major issue is that we aren't scoring that 2nd goal.
Teams come at us late because they have nothing to lose.

[Swizzlestick]

Very good save early doors from a Piroe shot and a clean sheet. Can we start backing our players now?

[DCWat]

Very good save early doors from a Piroe shot and a clean sheet. Can we start backing our players now?

I still couldn’t say if he’s a decent keeper or not. There have been some good saves and equally, there have been a few errors. He’s blatantly not of the quality of a Pope or a Heaton though his distribution on the whole is pretty good (that throw out today was a howler).

I think he will prove to be a pretty good keeper, not a world beater, but decent enough.

[taio]

Very good save early doors from a Piroe shot and a clean sheet. Can we start backing our players now?

It was going just wide anyway but was right to make the save. He was untroubled today thanks to a great performance which Muric contributed to.

[Belgianclaret]

Hasn’t anyone noticed yet, Muric is the new (ball playing) Beast

[NewClaret]

I still couldn’t say if he’s a decent keeper or not. There have been some good saves and equally, there have been a few errors. He’s blatantly not of the quality of a Pope or a Heaton though his distribution on the whole is pretty good (that throw out today was a howler).

I think he will prove to be a pretty good keeper, not a world beater, but decent enough.

I was in line with that. Caught the wind. Obvious lesson learned is no loopy throws at Turf Moor on a windy October.

[Matt_Whalley]

Kompany pointed out in his post-match interview that seven goals this season have come from / involved Muric. He’s integral to the way we play.

I never want to see a repeat of the Blackpool game where a significant amount of home fans got on his back. Let’s get behind him.

[Steve1956]

Havnt commented on our ball playing goalkeeper as yet, but after today's performance I have to say it's time for BPF to being given a chance to pass to our full backs which looks pretty easy to me.....why does he always look like he's going to fall over every time he fields a ball,I'm BPF's biggest critic but he's better than Muric who makes goalkeeping look the most difficult occupation on the planet

[colne-claret]

Havnt commented on our ball playing goalkeeper as yet, but after today's performance I have to say it's time for BPF to being given a chance to pass to our full backs which looks pretty easy to me.....why does he always look like he's going to fall over every time he fields a ball,I'm BPF's biggest critic but he's better than Muric who makes goalkeeping look the most difficult occupation on the planet

Take it you’ve not seen much of BPF then?

[Steve1956]

Take it you’ve not seen much of BPF then?

I have from his Leeds days ...and I've been a fierce critic of him on this forum...he's crap....but he's better than Muric.

[Milltown1882]

I have from his Leeds days ...and I've been a fierce critic of him on this forum...he's crap....but he's better than Muric.

Absolutely deluded.

[Steve1956]

Absolutely deluded.

Thanks love x

[taio]

Absolutely deluded.

Not deluded at all. There's little between them.

[warksclaret]

Regarding Muric we need to be grateful we are in the Championship and not the PL. There are positives and negatives about him. His distribution is impressive, however his indecisiveness in goal does worry me, and he does not appear to move quickly when a shot is fired at his goal. If we did get promoted I fear all other 19 clubs would target him. Ironically if Pope had his distribtution skills he would be Englands No 1 GK

[jen1066]

Absolutely deluded.

Don't egg him on. He's a clueless individual who will never ever understand football. I have more on my balls than he has on his head.

[NRC]

Don't egg him on. He's a clueless individual who will never ever understand football. I have more on my balls than he has on his head.

huh??

[Steve1956]

Don't egg him on. He's a clueless individual who will never ever understand football. I have more on my balls than he has on his head.

Yawn ....what an absolutely shite comeback.

[Big Vinny K]

Last couple of games he’s been poor.
First 5 or 6 games of season he was poor.
The middle few games he showed an improvement in his decision making as to when he needs to go long.

Overall the jury remains out for me. I think he looks shaky at some point in the game in almost every single match we have played this season. I don’t think he commands his box well at all and his positioning seems a bit suspect too.
Yes we have been spoilt by Pope and Heaton who will go down as 2 of the best keepers in our history - but Muric cost more money than both of these put together !!

I think he will continue to make mistakes this season and probably cost us points. BPF is probably not the answer either but I do not think there is much between the him and Muric and if Muric makes mistakes I think BPF deserves a chance and hopefully the competition between them would be healthy.

As pointed out though it is a blessing that we are in the Championship. The league this season is not great quality. Both in terms of a number of teams have dodgy keepers and even more important you do not get punished for making the kind of mistakes we have been anywhere near as much as you do in the Premier League. In fact on the latter point it’s night and day.

[Steve1956]

huh??

Don't egg him on he has more footballs on his balls than I have on my head ...one beer to many I fear.

[NRC]

Don't egg him on he has more footballs on his balls than I have on my head ...one beer to many I fear.

perhaps it's the arrow in his eye causing him some consternation

[HitchinClaret]

Muric is an important cog in a very impressive team. I really wish that we could get behind the whole team.

[jen1066]

Muric is an important cog in a very impressive team. I really wish that we could get behind the whole team.

Some people don't get it.

[boatshed bill]

i've just watched the Championship highlights.
Muric is at about the same standard as most of the others.

[Big Vinny K]

Muric is an important cog in a very impressive team. I really wish that we could get behind the whole team.

You can still get behind the whole team including Muric and at the same time have doubts about whether they are good enough.

As for ‘not getting it” I have heard that nonsense from some posters all season every time Muric makes a mistake or faces a bit of ctrticism. Of course VK wants a certain type of keeper who is comfortable with the ball at his feet.

Muric is certainly confident and comfortable with the ball at his feet and that in itself is an attribute as you would not want a keeper to play how VK wants them too if he was not at ease doing so.

However being confident and executing what he is trying to accurately are 2 different things. And whilst playing this style of football means that it is virtually impossible to get it right 100% of the time you are then judged on how many mistakes you make and in mine and a number of other fans views Muric so far this season has made too many mistakes with his distribution. And I am also pretty sure it’s not part of VK’s plan to fail to catch the ball as often as Muric does.

[Boxy]

Another important save today at 2-2. If we had conceded again , think the come back would of died

[MrTechno]

I think he’s been unfairly derided because he wears pants and doesn’t boot it / takes more risk then keepers we’ve been used to but he was at times poor and wasn’t great for the second today. Mind you I’m watching Motd and Ederson gave the ball to welbeck (who should have done better), then got beaten at his near post and then assisted a goal. It’s a shame though that after such a fantastic win, showing character, determination and fight in the second half, that some of the highest tending threads are criticising our players, which rather ironically I’m now contributing to

[hoskinsgoalatswansea]

Another important save today at 2-2. If we had conceded again , think the come back would of died

Do you mean the one that was right down his throat? Well, at least he stood up to it and didn’t go down early like the first goal.

I don’t rate him at all. I expect goalkeepers to have the ability to dive left and right and make saves with their hands from time to time. A basic skill he seems to lack. For a big guy he’s not too hot on claiming crosses either.