Gerrard @ Villa

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:43 pm

Sacked?

Word on the grapevine

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:49 pm

Dyche to Villa

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NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:09 pm

Not true according to their communications director on twitter.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:43 pm

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:31 am

yeah course

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:41 am

basil6345789 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:43 pm
Errm

https://twitter.com/Bricky67_/status/15 ... 79zAg&s=19

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:43 am

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:43 am

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:20 am

The hype around him at Rangers was ridiculous, most ex players would succeed there as manager, should learnt his trade doing the hard miles butvasxalwsys great player =great manager=average players will be as good casual him = he'll be as great as the managers he has worked for.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:23 am

He did a fantastic job at Rangers. Not sure how anyone can say any different.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:27 am

Doing a fantastic job at Rangers though is relatively easy.

welsbyswife · Post by **welsbyswife** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:27 am

Maybe the nanagers aren't the problem at Villa. Maybe the club itself is the issue. Very easy to roll out the great player but not a great manager line. But a bit lazy. Who has done well at Villa in the last 20 years? They can't all have been bad managers.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:39 am

Difficult at Villa as it is at Everton. High expectations but not really enough money to realise them

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:44 am

Villa looked very good against Chelsea first half, sometimes things don't click, sometimes it isn't the managers fault.
Gerrard will be a good manager in the future, he has to learn, the same as everyone else, whether that can save him at Villa is anybody's guess.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:56 am

Culmclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:39 am
Difficult at Villa as it is at Everton. High expectations but not really enough money to realise them

Eh?

Top 10 highest net spend in Europe over the last five years - that’s despite two of those years in the Championship and bringing in over £100 million for Grealish.

https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-re ... barcelona/

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:01 am

Villas problem, like Everton, has been their transfers.

For example, Coutinho - unsurprisingly he's gone missing after an initial good start, but he's on silly wages....

They've splurged money on players for a manager and then potted him, to do it all over again.
There's just no long term support and now it's being leaked that they're chasing Poch.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:26 am

Is Ings out of form these days or slightly injured as he was on the bench without coming on in the recent game against Forest?

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:31 am

Spijed wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:26 am
Is Ings out of form these days or slightly injured as he was on the bench without coming on in the recent game against Forest?

He started v Chelsea.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:36 pm

Fulham & Brentford next up for Villa Gerrard really needs a couple of positive results in those games or he will be on a sticky wicket.

Villa have underachieved for ages though so I'm not sure precisely what their fans expect regardless of who the manager is.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:49 pm

He's gone, villa just announced it

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:56 pm

Back to Rangers?

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:00 pm

Have corrected the heading

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:39 pm

Next prime minister. You heard it here first.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:02 am

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:33 am

I wonder at what stage unrealistic expectations in certain premier league clubs will stop being a thing?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:51 am

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:33 am
I wonder at what stage unrealistic expectations in certain premier league clubs will stop being a thing?

Villa have one of the largest net spends in Europe over the past seasons in fairness. A minimum expectation should be to see some good football, Gerrard couldn’t even manage that.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:58 am

Gerard was a poor appointment in the first place for a club with Villas expectations, they will surly go for someone with experience at the top level and not a rookie like Gerard was

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:21 am

Stolen from Twitter

I’ve a horrible feeling, McGinn is going to regret telling Dyche his coat was s**t.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:41 am

Not being successful is no longer an option in this cutthroat ruthless world of football management. Those who appointed Gerrard should sack themselves.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:49 am

Could Rodgers make the short trip over to Villa? I've seen weirder switches

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:01 am

Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:21 am
Stolen from Twitter

I’ve a horrible feeling, McGinn is going to regret telling Dyche his coat was s**t.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:04 am

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:27 am
Doing a fantastic job at Rangers though is relatively easy.

It was his record in Europe that got him the high praise. Obviously he did well all round up there but you can't fault the opposition he was playing against in Europe.

It's a strange time to sack him with other clubs struggling to attract any decent candidates for their managers job.
Bournemouth, Wolves and WBA aren't doing very well in the recruitment.
Who could they attract to do any better?

Please don't say Dyche because half of his sacking was Gerrard was more defensive than Dean Smith.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:07 am

When he went to Villa there were enough people claiming he would only be there until Klopp left his job

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:13 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:07 am
When he went to Villa there were enough people claiming he would only be there until Klopp left his job

Same people expecting Vincent Kompany to be next City manager no doubt.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:17 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:07 am
When he went to Villa there were enough people claiming he would only be there until Klopp left his job

His chances of managing Liverpool are now all but over.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:26 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:51 am
Villa have one of the largest net spends in Europe over the past seasons in fairness. A minimum expectation should be to see some good football, Gerrard couldn’t even manage that.

Oh no doubt, but Villa and Everton fans in particular don't seem to live in the real world

jen1066 · Post by **jen1066** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:34 am

42 years old and has already been sacked. His merry-go-round has just begun. You just know another club will offer him a job, for him to be sacked 12 months later. Rinse and repeat.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:46 am

Heard the interviewer last night ask Brendan Rodgers about the sacking. "Puts things into perspective"... "He's looking for work now." Really?!

Extremely wealthy man becomes even wealthier following sacking. Repeat repeat repeat.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:46 am

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:04 am
It was his record in Europe that got him the high praise. Obviously he did well all round up there but you can't fault the opposition he was playing against in Europe.

It's a strange time to sack him with other clubs struggling to attract any decent candidates for their managers job.
Bournemouth, Wolves and WBA aren't doing very well in the recruitment.
Who could they attract to do any better?

Please don't say Dyche because half of his sacking was Gerrard was more defensive than Dean Smith.

What did he do in Europe? Wasn't it van Bronckhorst who took them to the Europa League final?

He'd lost the fans totally at Villa, position as close to untenable as you can get really. I don't think it was just the results either. Seemed to gain a reputation as being haughty and arrogant, and the disagreement with Mings probably didn't go down well with some of the senior players.

distortiondave · Post by **distortiondave** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:47 am

There's clearly no leaders in that Villa team, but making John McGinn club was worthy of the sack by itself. I wouldn't have him at Burnley.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:59 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:17 am
His chances of managing Liverpool are now all but over.

No doubt he'll be offered the England job in time. At times it seems to have been a refuge for sacked club managers!!!

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:54 pm

He never came across to me as a happy soul, someone that could have a laugh with his players. Always far too serious. I think someone like Dyche would turn the mentality round in the club overnight.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:05 pm

He'll end up at Tranmere

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:07 pm

BBC: Aston Villa: Who are the contenders to replace Steven Gerrard

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63 ... rtfootball]

Who should replace Steven Gerrard as Aston Villa boss?

Thank you for voting. Here are the current results.

Sean Dyche 38%
Pochettino 28%
Tuchel 10%
Frank 7%
Beale 4%
Emry 4%
Others 9%

Have we all been on BBC Sport voting for Sean Dyche to get the Villa job?

Good luck, Sean Dyche. Good luck, Aston Villa.

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CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:10 pm

4midable wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:43 pm
Sacked?

Word on the grapevine

I hope you put a bet on

Nice to be in the know a few days before.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:10 pm

Paul Waine wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:07 pm
BBC: Aston Villa: Who are the contenders to replace Steven Gerrard

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63 ... rtfootball]

Who should replace Steven Gerrard as Aston Villa boss?

Thank you for voting. Here are the current results.

Sean Dyche 38%
Pochettino 28%
Tuchel 10%
Frank 7%
Beale 4%
Emry 4%
Others 9%

Have we all been on BBC Sport voting for Sean Dyche to get the Villa job?

Good luck, Sean Dyche. Good luck, Aston Villa.

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I did

It will get him off our wage bill for January incomings.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:24 pm

CnBtruntru wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:10 pm
I did It will get him off our wage bill for January incomings.

I did too

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:39 pm

Paul Waine wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:07 pm
BBC: Aston Villa: Who are the contenders to replace Steven Gerrard

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63 ... rtfootball]

Who should replace Steven Gerrard as Aston Villa boss?

Thank you for voting. Here are the current results.

Sean Dyche 38%
Pochettino 28%
Tuchel 10%
Frank 7%
Beale 4%
Emry 4%
Others 9%

Have we all been on BBC Sport voting for Sean Dyche to get the Villa job?

Good luck, Sean Dyche. Good luck, Aston Villa.

UTC

Isn't Beale rumoured to go to Wolves?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:48 pm

mkmel wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:39 pm
Isn't Beale rumoured to go to Wolves?

Yeah, rumoured to be number 1 choice but that won't stop the media or bookies linking him with villa

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:54 pm

mkmel wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:39 pm
Isn't Beale rumoured to go to Wolves?

I read this as Ian Beale