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Rotherham
Some will say it’s hypocritical to moan about it after the Dyche years - but that was next level shithousery. I have never seen a team commit so hard to time wasting, to a man. It was a group effort and racking up a ten minute bout of added time purely for these antics must be a record.
I say well done to the Millers, masters of the dark arts. Enjoy your trip home.
I say well done to the Millers, masters of the dark arts. Enjoy your trip home.
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Credit to the ref for adding it all on.
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If they had just played the game they were playing in the first half it wouldn't of cranked us up
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Absolutely. It’s very easy to moan about refs, and he made some bad calls at times - but he clearly noted everything. Good on him.
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The initial 10 minutes flattered them!
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Apparently it's now called " Game Management "
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Disgusting football, there's some truly awful sides at this level. I can moan about it too without being a hypocrite, I never liked Dycheball, I liked the results though.
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This may be very likely correct.Cubanforever wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:02 pmIf they had just played the game they were playing in the first half it wouldn't of cranked us up
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Cheers Millers for your time wasting antics allowing us to bag 2 goals in added time.
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I wonder if Rotherham fans are trawling Twitter for salty comments?…..
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Equivalent of us being 2-1 up at Man City last season with 15 minutes left. It's a dream 3 points up for grabs for them and they're gonna do everything they can to hold onto them. So I can't say I blame them though its much easier to be diplomatic with another 3 points in the bag.
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Referee could of added another 10 on too!
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Worse than reading for it in the second half, though reading started after 5 minutes of the first
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I thought Rotherham were pretty decent.
Yeah, they took the **** with the time wasting but when they tried to play they were pretty good.
Yeah, they took the **** with the time wasting but when they tried to play they were pretty good.
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I fully agree, caused us loads of trouble. If they had kept it up rather than think they needed to cheat, I reckon they’d have won.
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Almost like a Stop Oil protest all over the pitch tonight. Slick!
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Horrible team. Fans weren't much better. Congrats on your shithousery. I appreciate it, if we were so far behind the ability of a team say against Arsenal or City, we'd do the same. Their cheating lads got what they deserved. Nowt.
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Very decent team I thought! Set up well, knew where our threats were coming from and managed to look pretty dangerous on the break.
For the resources they have you’d have to be pretty happy as a Rotherham fan. Bar a daft red card tonight, they’d likely have been going home with a result.
The time wasting was painful though. They really did take that to thee very extreme, and that’s coming from a Burnley fan who learnt to apprecIate the dark arts as underdogs in the premier league.
For the resources they have you’d have to be pretty happy as a Rotherham fan. Bar a daft red card tonight, they’d likely have been going home with a result.
The time wasting was painful though. They really did take that to thee very extreme, and that’s coming from a Burnley fan who learnt to apprecIate the dark arts as underdogs in the premier league.
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We were no where near our best tonight & Rotherham had the game all but won if it wasn't for their number 3 getting two bookings for needless challenges & their goalkeeper ( main culprit) time wasting.
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The worst of it was their physio (blatantly to the entire JML but not the ref) pulling their ‘injured’ player away as he was leaving the pitch, making sure to buy an extra thirty seconds by telling him to leave via a more circuitous route. Many thanks to him for those crucial thirty seconds, bet he feels a right ****. Quite rightly, as he is one.
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They did what we used to, just less subtly.
Thought they played their part in the game and could feel a little unfortunate with the second hello card- Roberts made rather more than he should ov the contact.
Liked the look of the centre forward who came on. Proper handful, took his goal well and perhaps one for VK's memory bank.
Thought they played their part in the game and could feel a little unfortunate with the second hello card- Roberts made rather more than he should ov the contact.
Liked the look of the centre forward who came on. Proper handful, took his goal well and perhaps one for VK's memory bank.
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Billy Mercer I noticed was in their dugout.
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I don't think their goalkeeper was any worse than any other keeper when defending a lead or holding on for a point. The worst culprit was the lad who was eventually substituted after going down needlessly, at least twice, and then choosing to go the longest way off the pitch.Nonayforever wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:39 pmWe were no where near our best tonight & Rotherham had the game all but won if it wasn't for their number 3 getting two bookings for needless challenges & their goalkeeper ( main culprit) time wasting.
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They were getting the run around yet decided to make the game 15 minutes longer than it needed to be. Got exactly what they deserved. They looked like a decent team when they tried to play but entirely lost interest in doing so. Hilarious really.
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Yes carved us open a few times and I thought they were pretty decent.jedi_master wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:33 pmI fully agree, caused us loads of trouble. If they had kept it up rather than think they needed to cheat, I reckon they’d have won.
They even had a very good chance after we scored our third.
It's like we go to sleep sometimes after we score.
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The physios were clearly in on it - they’ll have been telling their number 10 to stay on and go down as far away from the bench as possible 2 minutes later, before leaving all the way across the pitch. The choreography must have taken some real work on the training ground.Beagle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:43 pmThe worst of it was their physio (blatantly to the entire JML but not the ref) pulling their ‘injured’ player away as he was leaving the pitch, making sure to buy an extra thirty seconds by telling him to leave via a more circuitous route. Many thanks to him for those crucial thirty seconds, bet he feels a right ****. Quite rightly, as he is one.
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There should be a rule that a team who time wastes cannot benefit from it, tonight they had a chance in the dieing seconds, ref should be able to end game when the team who hasn't time wasted scores.
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Sack that rule off if we get promoted and are the underdog every week though, yeah?
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An absolute farce. I've never seen anything like it. I don't even think that any of their players were actually injured. They got what they deserved. How their management team actually had the audacity to complain about added extra time to the extra time is beyond me. They can all just **** off back to shithole that is Rotherham.
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If the board had gone up with 20 on it at the end, it wouldn't have been enough.
What on earth was the ref doing letting that go on. There was basically no football between minutes 70-90.
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I thought Rotherham were fine. I'm stopping short of good, but I thought they were fine, decent, whatever, when they played football. They scored two good goals (from their POV), and the scorer of their second goal gave a good account of himself whenever he could, they defended fine and all of it was fine.
But, and they could have beaten us tonight, they decided to play like that. Why? They could have made a point and dipped a toe in the top half, but they've lost and now they are step backwards towards relegation. They will never go up, they will never be a big team - and I don't mean this from a Burnley are the biggest and bestest team ever point of view because I know we aren't, nor ever will be again - but why not come and play the game of football instead of hoping for a draw?
I get it a bit in the Premier League because there is so much money involved that grabbing a 0-0 away at Liverpool might be worth throwing all footballing pretence out the window, but we're only Burnley and there's 45 other games. Why play like that at this level? What difference does it really make if Rotherham are playing away at us or Accrington?
We were the better team and we utterly deserve the 3 points, but if they play the game properly they get a draw at the very least.
More fool them.
But, and they could have beaten us tonight, they decided to play like that. Why? They could have made a point and dipped a toe in the top half, but they've lost and now they are step backwards towards relegation. They will never go up, they will never be a big team - and I don't mean this from a Burnley are the biggest and bestest team ever point of view because I know we aren't, nor ever will be again - but why not come and play the game of football instead of hoping for a draw?
I get it a bit in the Premier League because there is so much money involved that grabbing a 0-0 away at Liverpool might be worth throwing all footballing pretence out the window, but we're only Burnley and there's 45 other games. Why play like that at this level? What difference does it really make if Rotherham are playing away at us or Accrington?
We were the better team and we utterly deserve the 3 points, but if they play the game properly they get a draw at the very least.
More fool them.
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At least they actually tried to attack us, unlike anyone else that has turned up. Reading let their forwards on the bench against us but both were in the team last night. I think our lot were actually shocked that a team came to attack us.
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Whatever you think about timewasting, the fact that they kept on trying it after the ref had added ten minutes on to the second half is genuinely as thick as anything you'll see on a football field.
Decent mixed football side though.
Decent mixed football side though.
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We were never close to being that bad and blatant under Dyche.
Well done to the referee.
They got what they deserved for those tactics.
Well done to the referee.
They got what they deserved for those tactics.
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Reap what you sow.
Mind the gap Rovers
Mind the gap Rovers
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I thought they were bang average and it was more us having an off night that made them look any good. A tricky side to play against but no more and they knew their limitations, given how early they started the time-wasting. They look really stupid after that.
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They're all bang average, quoon be at Z. I thought they were better than Reading, Swansea, Millwall....I think Bristol City were probably the best, Hull and Luton (and Blackpool) were lucky to catch us early doors, but they're all varying degrees of bang average.
But, I thought they genuinely could have had a point tonight had they tried to play football and it's depressing that for a team like Rotherham getting a point at Turf Moor is the pinnacle of their sporting aspirations.
But, I thought they genuinely could have had a point tonight had they tried to play football and it's depressing that for a team like Rotherham getting a point at Turf Moor is the pinnacle of their sporting aspirations.
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Are people thinking that the 6 second rule applies when the GK has he ball at his feet? It doesn't.
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I doubt anyone is thinking that, bill.
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Why mention Dyche? Stupid. Dyche players didn't sit down and feign injury.jedi_master wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:00 pmSome will say it’s hypocritical to moan about it after the Dyche years - but that was next level shithousery. I have never seen a team commit so hard to time wasting, to a man. It was a group effort and racking up a ten minute bout of added time purely for these antics must be a record.
I say well done to the Millers, masters of the dark arts. Enjoy your trip home.
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When you play against 80 million pound players in the Prem like we did, you can be half excused for time wasting if you're close to getting a result (even then we never time wasted to that level). However, our team isn't full of 80 million pound players. Glad we scored in the last seconds thanks to their embarrassing antics. Hope they cried all the way home.
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As others have said, the time wasting when they really cranked it up 2nd half was more damaging to them.
Their plan was working fine and would have beaten us anyway. Their antics just gave us all the momentum and seemed to lose their focus on what had been working because now all they were thinking about was provoking and faking injuries.
Weird to call it game management, it cost them the game. Well, that and a needless 2nd booking for Bramall.
Their plan was working fine and would have beaten us anyway. Their antics just gave us all the momentum and seemed to lose their focus on what had been working because now all they were thinking about was provoking and faking injuries.
Weird to call it game management, it cost them the game. Well, that and a needless 2nd booking for Bramall.
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The unfortunately named Dick Wood was brought into the fold post sending off I noted, although then the decline set in. Oh well, hard cheese. Dirty beggar.
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I thought they were a decent side on the whole, will be a tricky away game that's for sure!
They're certainly a side capable of beating anybody in the league on their day, coupon buster side.
They're certainly a side capable of beating anybody in the league on their day, coupon buster side.
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The wags on the Rotherham forums think that the extra time is part of a conspiracy to ensure that play continues until the big team wins.
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Saw this on twitter too from some of their fans.Croydon Claret wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:02 amThe wags on the Rotherham forums think that the extra time is part of a conspiracy to ensure that play continues until the big team wins.
I genuinely thought the added time could have been 12+.
- There were 9 subs (30 seconds per sub + the extra time the right back wasted going off the wrong side, so lets add another 30 seconds, that's 3 minutes)
- Several bookings including a red card and minor scuffle (when Brownhill and Maatsen were booked) (minimum 2 minutes)
- Keeper taking 20-30 seconds per goal kick
- Right back on the deck for at least 4 minutes, other Rotherham players 'receiving treatment' (min 5 minutes)
Easily 10 if not more.
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I thought they were pretty good. They did try to get the ball forward. When they did they caused us plenty of problems and always looked dangerous. They pressed us well and that contributed to some of our poor passing. They will feel that Bramall was unlucky cumulatively although Matt Taylor did say that he should have been more careful after the first booking. When they weren’t time wasting they were still playing pretty well and even with 10 they looked threatening on the break until the end of the 90, although they struggled in time added on. They have the worst second half record in the Championship and Taylor referred before the match to this being related to the physical capacity of the players. Ultimately the fact that we have fitter, better players and can introduce a talent like Benson for the last 30 (42) minutes told. Their antics were excruciating which was a pity because they gave us a very hard game.
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Well truthfully he should have added more. 13 minutes in fact.
As you say we’ll done referee for adding on so much extra time. I am so glad Rotherham got their just reward - NIL POINT.
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If it wasn't for all the time wasting they would have walked away with at least a point, possibly all three. They nearly put together the perfect away performance. I thought they played very well and were positive with the ball. The ridiculous time wasting backfired horribly for them. Hopefully they can put together similar performances against our promotion rivals.
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Second time in a week that a referee has rightly added on a serious amount of time following ridiculous time wasting tactics. This guy even added it on at the end of the first half too!! And second time in a week it's come back to bite the opposition in the rear end. Excellent stuff from the ref!!