Muric

[Stayingup]

Not all Muric fault but he set the tone in the first half , he flap's at to much . The two full backs are weak out of position to many times.

He was flapping and missing catches or punches on Wednesday. Dyche gets some very undeserved comments on this board but he could spot a good keeper (he signed both Heaton and Pope) and defender - Tarkowski- and organise the defence. This team needs some of that.

[burnleymik]

Egan completely got into his head, but why on earth wasn't he screaming for someone to come and take Egan off him or why didn't anyone step up and do it? He wasn't strong enough, but a lot more could have been done to ease the pressure on him today.

[KRBFC]

Shakey performance from Muric today, needs to work on that area of his game, push the blocking attacker out of the way when coming for the ball. It's funny though because non of the goals conceded came from Muric's flapping, came from the defenders not winning the first ball.

Our pathetic fanbase strikes again though, it's all Roberts/Muric's fault when we concede a goal. Defending set pieces is a collective effort, not solely on the goalkeeper. The biggest issue was highlighted in the first goal, Cullen marking Mcburnie (who had the run on him), complete mismatch allowed them to easily win the first ball.

[jedi_master]

Luigi Cennamo might have a word or two to say about that.

Thanks, that’s me having nightmares now.

[ClaretFelix]

It's what people with limited football knowledge do.

A slightly patronising viewpoint really. On here are plenty with a decent football background both playing and having watched for decades, and opinions differ.

My own opinion, he's not very good.
He might be able to ping a pinpoint pass 20 yards to his full back to get us on the front foot quickly after turnover, however i'd prefer a keeper who inspires confidence in those in front of him, relieves pressure by commanding his box, and makes crucial saves. By doing the simple things, it is often the most effective, and there's a reason he's in a position that allows him to wear gloves.

He's made the odd good save, but regularly invites pressure unnecessarily, and doesn't leave the ground when coming to claim catches/punch.
Let's not forget, he's not a kid, he's been about, albeit on loan, and has nearly 30 caps for his country.

Oh, and for balance, and think Zaroury has been an incredible signing and has been performing superbly since he came in, but he was also terrible today.

[Ampth7]

As anyone who’s played football at any level knows, centre halves feed off from the confidence or lack of from the keeper behind them.

Sadly, Muric’s first half performance made it an easy team talk for their manager. Something along the lines of ‘stick it over his head every time we get it, because he can’t catch or punch’.

Yes, our centre backs/rest of the team didn’t help him out but we were clearly lacking in height big time and that’s when you need your 6ft 6 keeper to come and claim the high ball.

[LTUK89]

Shakey performance from Muric today, needs to work on that area of his game, push the blocking attacker out of the way when coming for the ball. It's funny though because non of the goals conceded came from Muric's flapping, came from the defenders not winning the first ball.

Our pathetic fanbase strikes again though, it's all Roberts/Muric's fault when we concede a goal. Defending set pieces is a collective effort, not solely on the goalkeeper. The biggest issue was highlighted in the first goal, Cullen marking Mcburnie (who had the run on him), complete mismatch allowed them to easily win the first ball.

Why are you having a go at the fanbase for pointing out that Muric is a poor keeper? Everyone sees it. The commentators saw it, the pundits saw it, even Phil Bird saw it. Fair play for backing a Claret but me thinks your pride is the prime motivator here.

[Leyland Claret]

Luigi Cennamo might have a word or two to say about that.

Is he available at the moment?…

[taio]

As anyone who’s played football at any level knows, centre halves feed off from the confidence or lack of from the keeper behind them.

Sadly, Muric’s first half performance made it an easy team talk for their manager. Something along the lines of ‘stick it over his head every time we get it, because he can’t catch or punch’.

Yes, our centre backs/rest of the team didn’t help him out but we were clearly lacking in height big time and that’s when you need your 6ft 6 keeper to come and claim the high ball.

Exactly this. Said the same. The defenders were far from blameless but Muric a key part of the root cause for the reasons you say.

[Claretforever]

There were lots of players today who were well off the levels we expect. Muric does not leave the floor on crosses. It’s no wonder he never gets near to them.

[bennitor]

Also some of Muric's 'great' saves today cames as a result of him not coming out and claiming the ball in the first place. If he comes out and takes the cross then the need for a flying save is gone.

He is an incredibly poor goalkeeper. You either have it or you don't and he definitely doesn't have it. I said it on the other thread, he's the one where the confidence and spine of the team flows from - if he's not giving them that then the whole back line will crumble. They are young and they aren't particularly tall so the need for him to command and use his height and reach is even more pressing.

Anything in the 6 yard box aerially should be his. No question. I'm not a BPF fan but would choose him over Muric every time.

[RVclaret]

Why are you having a go at the fanbase for pointing out that Muric is a poor keeper? Everyone sees it. The commentators saw it, the pundits saw it, even Phil Bird saw it. Fair play for backing a Claret but me thinks your pride is the prime motivator here.

Don’t count me in ‘everyone’ cheers. Been a key player for us this season. Anyone who understands football can see that.

[KRBFC]

Why are you having a go at the fanbase for pointing out that Muric is a poor keeper? Everyone sees it. The commentators saw it, the pundits saw it, even Phil Bird saw it. Fair play for backing a Claret but me thinks your pride is the prime motivator here.

my pride about what?

I understand defending set pieces is a collective, we're a young small new side, it will take time and experimenting for VK to get certain things right. Trial and error, I don't think the zonal marking is quite working and expect VK will tweak and tweak until we're better.

[LTUK89]

Don’t count me in ‘everyone’ cheers. Been a key player for us this season. Anyone who understands football can see that.

You and your mate are a right pair.

Please tell me how he’s been a key player? We could have played Lowton in the net all season and we’d be there or thereabouts!

[AlargeClaret]

Brilliant saves , goals not his fault and a shambolic defensive display and pretty toothless upfront too with the exception of the very notable 1st half of Benson.

[warksclaret]

He reminds me of Brian Jensen on a very BAD day

[Steve1956]

Neenan/Muric .....?
Neenan just about trumps Muric.
Neenah 3 Muric 2
Time to give that other donkey BPF a chance.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Throw Cork in goal, not sure you would notice a difference.

In games we will dominate Muric is excellent as his passing range is truly special for this league. However his goalkeeping quality is truly poor.

[Rumbletonk]

His command of his area is just awful. They had 28 shots today according to the BBC site though so no one can on their head high

[Steve1956]

Thro w Cork in goal, not sure you would notice a difference.

In games we will dominate Muric is excellent as his passing range is truly special for this league. However his goalkeeping quality is truly poor.

Don't agree with much you say but that post nailed it.

[Healeywoodclaret]

Reminds me of Kiraly on a very bad day.

And nobody dare mention next Sunday as our friends down the road are also physical. We know their game plan already.

Absolutely no way I would be comfortable with Muric in goal next Sunday. I wonder if Mickley Mouse is free next weekend?

[Robbo1882]

Brilliant saves , goals not his fault and a shambolic defensive display and pretty toothless upfront too with the exception of the very notable 1st half of Benson.

You need to take your claret tinted glasses off, I don’t think Muric has a brilliant save in him, he nearly conceded from a throw in.

[taio]

It's rare I'm as close to the pitch that I was today but Muric offered nothing communication wise to his back four.

[Nori1958]

After the first ten minutes our players knew they should not conceed free kicks, corners or throw ins, because Muric just cannot cope with them, which causes nervousness and panic which showed.

[claretspice]

It's rare I'm as close to the pitch that I was today but Muric offered nothing communication wise to his back four.

Hard to know but my impression is that the entire back 5 today was quiet. Its certainly inexperienced. That's a flaw and again, it would have been partially resolved by bringing in Taylor and Roberts. But it should also be said that we missed Brownhill and Rodriguez back there today. They are two key players at set plays and I doubt we're as ragged if those two play.

[DCWat]

For such an imposing bloke, Muric does little to utilise that advantage in the penalty area. Despite his size, I think he might actually be a bit weak.

For a keeper to command their area, they need to be brave and willing to take a knock as they’re climbing above everyone to claim balls into the box.

Muric doesn’t seem willing or able to use his advantage and often appears smaller than his actual height when coming for balls. His judgement of which to come for and which to leave is also questionable.

We were defensively poor today and it looked like men against boys at times. Whilst we can say that the defence doesn’t give Muric much help, it’s fair to say that his lack of ability with crosses isn’t giving the defenders in front of him much confidence.

Today was a perfect storm of shitness from goalkeeper and defence. A big lesson needs to be learned.

[taio]

Hard to know but my impression is that the entire back 5 today was quiet. Its certainly inexperienced. That's a flaw and again, it would have been partially resolved by bringing in Taylor and Roberts. But it should also be said that we missed Brownhill and Rodriguez back there today. They are two key players at set plays and I doubt we're as ragged if those two play.

Both Roberts and Taylor should've played without the benefit of hindsight. We were always going to miss Jay and Brownhill but difference is there was no choice to play them.

[Buxtonclaret]

It's rare I'm as close to the pitch that I was today but Muric offered nothing communication wise to his back four.

Honestly believe thats a part of his problem.
He can stop some decent shots on goal. Has a bloody big reach. Kept us in it twice, keeping out those two efforts, minutes apart.
But his command of the area is awful. Something we've got away with a few times already this season.
Not sure of the answer.

[beddie]

I think what disappoints me is that for a tall keeper he doesn’t dominate anything from corners, set plays etc. He should be taking every player out in front of him instead of all this flapping.

[RVclaret]

You and your mate are a right pair.

Please tell me how he’s been a key player? We could have played Lowton in the net all season and we’d be there or thereabouts!

Utterly clueless.

Pointless me discussing why with you as you’ve had it in for him all season.

[Robbo1882]

Muric is clueless

[winsomeyen]

For a big guy there is no resason why he should not claim every ball in the 6 yard box.

IMO the defence have no confidence in him

[LTUK89]

Utterly clueless.

Pointless me discussing why with you as you’ve had it in for him all season.

I’d really like to know what you (and others) are seeing in him that I’m not.

[NRC]

The Sky commentator was vocally shocked in the first half at how Muric flapped unsuccessfully at balls floated across. It was clear, even to the man in the moon, what Sheffield Utd had to do. And so they did

That said, bizarrely it wasn’t his flapping that lead to goals, it was an incredibly poor defense in front of him, but where he IS culpable is in setting the “no confidence” feel in the defenders. And his saves prevented it from being worse than it already was.

Equally, though, VK must take responsibility as a manager. It was stone cold clear what they would do after HT and it was crying out for the experience of Taylor and Roberts

I put this on VK not Muric. Surely he has to reflect on that

[Stayingup]

Muric was flapping at high balls into the box on Wednesday. He's just not up to the job as of now. Oh for a Heaton or Pope and a Tarks and Mee, who kept us up season on season.

[warksclaret]

Muric was flapping at high balls into the box on Wednesday. He's just not up to the job as of now. Oh for a Heaton or Pope and a Tarks and Mee, who kept us up season on season.

.......and we let Hennessy go for FREE

[ecc]

Abject. Unbelievable how a bloke built like a brick ****house cannot come and either catch or punch the ball away. Time for a change.

[Healeywoodclaret]

I think what disappoints me is that for a tall keeper he doesn’t dominate anything from corners, set plays etc. He should be taking every player out in front of him instead of all this flapping.

His communication with his own defence was poor. He looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights of a Juggernaut.

[Enola Gay]

.......and we let Hennessy go for FREE

And got exactly what he was worth.

Still... we've had a parade of the misguided saying BPF is the answer and even a thread saying we should move for the semi-retired Heaton, so it's not really a surprise to see Hennessey's stock rise as well.

[Juan Tanamera]

Where's Billy Mercer these days?
Do we have a goalkeeping coach, if so he needs to be sorting out every aspect of Muric's game, especially his command (or lack of) of the 6 yard box.

[RVclaret]

I’d really like to know what you (and others) are seeing in him that I’m not.

Decent shot stopper (some excellent saves today, underlying data has him with some of the best stats for keepers in the league) and best ball distributing keeper in the league (has been a key part of VK being able to deploy his system, of which we are top of the league).

Young keeper who massively needs to improve his commanding of the area but, just to repeat, young keeper with time ahead to improve. The improvement in his keeping since the loan at Forest is remarkable, and a positive sign that he will develop.

[MACCA]

His distribution his his apparent strong point, well today that was bobbins, his actual goal keeping terrible.

I've never see such a big goalkeepers weakness be jumping and catching the ball.
His commandment of his 6 yard box is appalling, never ming the whole of his box.

We lost the 1st and 2nd contact numerous times today in our own box and that's concerning.

It wouldn't have mattered if it was Southend United or Sheffield United slinging balls into the box today, we just never dealt with them.

Sadly it's been the story of our season so far, we really struggle with crosses into the box.
A goalkeeper that's glued to his line, 2 CB that don't have "the danger nose" imo and get caught ball watching or easily brushed off, and 2 very short fullbacks who don't seem to be as interested in defending as they are attacking

A really bad day at the office today.

Hopefully we see a big reaction next Sunday.
Blackburn have been given the blue print today for how to get sucess against us

[ervi34]

I mean, it's not like BPF is any better. When we played against Coventry he was also on the line all the time and afraid to catch the ball.

[AlargeClaret]

You need to take your claret tinted glasses off, I don’t think Muric has a brilliant save in him, he nearly conceded from a throw in.

You sound very knowledgeable.

[ashtonlongsider]

For a big bloke he should be more physical and command his box a lot better. He allows himself to get blocked in and bullied especially from set plays on a regular basis. It's a position that worries me and has done all season to be perfectly honest.

[Robbo1882]

You sound very knowledgeable.

Thanks, just let me know if I can help you out with anything else.

[DCWat]

Where's Billy Mercer these days?
Do we have a goalkeeping coach, if so he needs to be sorting out every aspect of Muric's game, especially his command (or lack of) of the 6 yard box.

He was in the opposition dugout the other day.

[warksclaret]

Came out 3 times to punch a ball-missed all3.Not seen that for a very long time

[boatshed bill]

As anyone who’s played football at any level knows, centre halves feed off from the confidence or lack of from the keeper behind them.

And "anyone who's played football at any level" knows that works both ways.

[1882Clarets1882]

The Sky commentator was vocally shocked in the first half at how Muric flapped unsuccessfully at balls floated across. It was clear, even to the man in the moon, what Sheffield Utd had to do. And so they did

That said, bizarrely it wasn’t his flapping that lead to goals, it was an incredibly poor defense in front of him, but where he IS culpable is in setting the “no confidence” feel in the defenders. And his saves prevented it from being worse than it already was.

Equally, though, VK must take responsibility as a manager. It was stone cold clear what they would do after HT and it was crying out for the experience of Taylor and Roberts

I put this on VK not Muric. Surely he has to reflect on that

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