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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:34 am

Pull down whatever is left now of the old Adelphi and Reindeer pubs and replace with with something more pleasant to welcome people as the come out of Central station. Looks now like we are just coming out of the blitz.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by bigdavethemaddog » Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:38 am

seems to be a lot of 'flattening buildings' going on - will there actually be anything left?

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by atlantalad » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:52 am

[*]Remove Boohoo.
[*]Demolish the unsightly brick buildings on West gate end of St James St
[*]Demolish or remove the hotch-potch eye sore of shops and derelict buildings up Colne rd/ Duke bar - plenty of reclaimed land to rebuild a new shopping area down Hurtley & New Hall Streets.
[*]As stated above - introduce a 1 am closing of pubs & night clubs ( unsure if there are any of the latter).

Re above: on Colne Rd near Duke bar- does any one else notice that permenant eyesore of a garage shell built next to a taxis office. It's been in that state ( no roof, door or windows) for the best part of 30 years. Surely there must be a legal process to make the owners improve the building.

Anyone know what improvements are being made to the New Town steel works on King St? Used to walk past it daily from junior school for school dinners in the Sandygate boxing club on Trafalgar St. Nostalgia- memories of the bails of cotton being 'hoisted and swung ' into the Watts mill, women at looms in the Trafalgar Mill and barges loaded with coal passing along the canal 😀. Just think of the tourism potential if those trades remained in that vicinity.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Billy Balfour » Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:18 am

atlantalad wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:52 am
Anyone know what improvements are being made to the New Town steel works on King St?
Part of the UCLan expansion.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Croydon Claret » Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:39 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:06 pm
I’ve lived in many different places over the past 15 years-

Braintree
Newbury
Fleet
Basingstoke
Reading
Wandsworth
Sevenoaks
Maidstone

And it’s only until you move away that you realise Burnley is alright.

Yeah, it has its problems, but so does everywhere.

The people of Burnley are great, then there’s the footy, the countryside, no real congestion. As already mentioned, the parks are fantastic and a real credit to the council for maintaining them.

I’d sooner live in Burnley than the vast majority of places I’ve lived.
I lived in Basingstoke for a year when I first left Burnley and have never seen a more sterile and soulless place. It was then that I realised how lucky I was to be from Burnley.

You just take it for granted until you leave.

Burnley is far from perfect but there's way more good than bad

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by IanMcL » Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:48 pm

The canalside could be absolutely sensational.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Blatherwickstattoo » Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:52 pm

The Circ bars (3 of them) are catered to the older clientele. Djs and bands on regularly now. Bank
Parade is the place to be, the bridge the loom and the circ 3 bars including the electric circus that has a license until 1am so a reasonable time to call it a do…. Rock n roller night on tonight (djs playing classic and modern rock n roll) … shameless plug


Agree the Kierby hotel needs flattening asap.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Loyalclaret » Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:41 pm

Blatherwickstattoo wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:52 pm
The Circ bars (3 of them) are catered to the older clientele. Djs and bands on regularly now. Bank
Parade is the place to be, the bridge the loom and the circ 3 bars including the electric circus that has a license until 1am so a reasonable time to call it a do…. Rock n roller night on tonight (djs playing classic and modern rock n roll) … shameless plug


Agree the Kierby hotel needs flattening asap.
Burnley's very own Northern Quarter. Been a good edition to Burnley town centre
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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by atlantalad » Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:16 pm

So, you're suggesting we should send a plum of flour over the whole town to improve it? Guess short term it may whiten some buildings but if we wait until mid December through to February the town will no doubt get a natural coverage of white powder. ;)

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:21 am

Nothing really you are wasting your time until Burnley borough council start giving a sh1t in 2016 we campaigned & petitioned to keep the link bridge which was opposed & defeated due to it costing 30k to keep & they never told us it was costing 89K to demolish it this was under labour.
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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:35 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:21 am
Nothing really you are wasting your time until Burnley borough council start giving a sh1t in 2016 we campaigned & petitioned to keep the link bridge which was opposed & defeated due to it costing 30k to keep & they never told us it was costing 89K to demolish it this was under labour.
What link bridge?

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:46 am

From the market to the multi storey car park.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Marty Dobson » Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:45 am

karatekid wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:45 pm
Flatten the terraced row of shops/taxi rank next to the Coach and Horses on Church st opposite the Sion Church. Proper eyesore that totally detracts from the modern look of the St. Peters Centre.
OK but leave my heap of bricks that I left on the footpath there alone, They've been there now for over 2 years.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by chipbutty » Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:58 am

conyoviejo wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:28 pm
Sort out the roundabout at the bottom of the college so people know which lane to get into ,instead of cutting people up to get into the lane that takes you to the Padiham turn off.
There's nothing wrong with the roundabout, its the inconsiderate/ idiot drivers that use it
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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Stevesball2 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:46 am

Flatten everything from Asda to the Thatch & Thistle in between M65 and Colne Rd / Burnley Rd / Colne Rd .
Rebuild as decent mix of social & affordable housing..
Regeneration of the markets (as it used to be max of 3 types of business) town centre mix of independent and multi shops ( again limit max numbers of each type )

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by what_no_pies » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:14 pm

Make it attractive to artists and creatives. Perhaps by using the mills as studio and exhibition space.

Incentivise independent businesses to open in town through rate exemptions and the likes and move towards a Hebden Bridge model to create footfall. People will come if the shops are unique. The big chains do more harm than good to the wider prospects of the town.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by 4midable » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:15 pm

Flatten most of duke bar

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Post by Claretforever » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:26 pm

Town standards where shop fronts are concerned. In you go to places like York, Shrewsbury, to smaller places such as Lutterworth, it appears that there are specific rules. It maintains standards and prevents too much in the way of multi-coloured neon lights bringing down the look of the place. Our council don’t seem to care at all.

Under the culvert as an example, it’s a main artery in town, but orange shops fronts and big neon lights look horrible.

Has it always been this way in Burnley?

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Murger » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:28 pm

Duke bar - gone
Daneshouse - gone
Stoneyholme - gone
Keirby - gone
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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by houseboy » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:07 pm

Lambo wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:19 pm
Where do I start? Flatten the Keirby, flatten the Adelphi, upgrade the Central Train Station or at least make it look inviting and not like something in a Wes Craven horror film, improve the quality of shops along the arterial routes - Colne Rd being the obvious route with its tacky takeaways, improve the canal side from Westgate through to Daneshouse ie use some of the old buildings for redevelopment, accommodation for the impending increase in University students should be a priority, improve the quality of the road surfaces, more quality shops in the town centre, not poundshops, charity shops, coffee shops or betting shops….improve the footfall in the covered market by again filling it with more varied stalls - that would include business rate reductions for all town centre shops to improve uptake on currently empty plots, free parking in the town centre all weekend
Other than that it’s fine then?

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by ICL » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:21 pm

Re above: on Colne Rd near Duke bar- does any one else notice that permenant eyesore of a garage shell built next to a taxis office. It's been in that state ( no roof, door or windows) for the best part of 30 years. Surely there must be a legal process to make the owners improve the building.

I notice they’ve both gone up for sale, if anyone is interested.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by atlantalad » Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:38 am

Ah- for sale. In that case the council should buy them, demolish the buildings and make a paying car park. That can be used by the ignorant drivers parking on the double yellows and pavements in that vicinity.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Fretters » Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:05 am

I'd make it so you could get on and off the motorway at both sides at junction 11. Would massively ease congestion, especially on match days.

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Post by Jamesy » Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:46 am

Get the staff at Manchester Road station to start opening the toilets again after the match.

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Post by Bosscat » Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:52 am

Fretters wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:05 am
I'd make it so you could get on and off the motorway at both sides at junction 11. Would massively ease congestion, especially on match days.
Occasionally we have come in that way (instead of 11 at Brierfield) and let me tell you it wouldn't ... when the roadworks were down Eastern Avenue we decided to try that way and it was a nightmare

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by MancunianClaret » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:26 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:11 pm
When people mention “flattening” various buildings who is paying to purchase the property and do the work?
The council would be the most likely candidate. Presumably through some kind of CPO if the owners don't want to sell.

Rawtenstall did a good job of flattening the rubbish shopping centre and replacing it with a nice new, well-used public space. Why couldn't something similar happen in Burnley?

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Post by Claretforever » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:42 am

Fretters wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:05 am
I'd make it so you could get on and off the motorway at both sides at junction 11. Would massively ease congestion, especially on match days.
I have it in my mind that the length of a motorway entrance and exit to the west side of the junction would be too close to junction 10?
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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by ClaretPete001 » Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:20 pm

Probably the one single thing that would improve Burnley is finishing the M65 to Leeds but it probably won't happen.

Also, not sure what has happened to the Weavers triangle it still doesn't seem to be a cohesive concept as far as I can tell.

In reality, Burnley only exists on a map. People can still get into Manchester, the Ribble Valley, the Dales, Skipton, Lytham etc....

I haven't been to Accrington for years and its only a stone's throw away.

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Post by RicardoMontalban » Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:27 pm

MancunianClaret wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:26 am
The council would be the most likely candidate. Presumably through some kind of CPO if the owners don't want to sell.

Rawtenstall did a good job of flattening the rubbish shopping centre and replacing it with a nice new, well-used public space. Why couldn't something similar happen in Burnley?
That became significantly more difficult when Grant Shapps, the housing minister in the Coalition government, took the decision to scrap the Elevate East Lancs housing renewal scheme in 2010. The scheme, run since about 2003 provided the necessary funding to CPO and demolish large swathes of unfit housing and replace it with affordable stock. This decision had a significant impact across Pennine Lancs. It was replaced, by the Regional Growth Fund, but this was a fraction of the fund available (1/3 if memory serves me correctly) and I think had a much wider remit. The cost of these schemes is huge.
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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:38 pm

Knock down the whole block next to the bus station from the Police Station end to by the band stand, creating a big event space for open air markets / concerts etc to inject some life into the town.

Cant imagine it would cost an impossibly huge amount. Any displaced business could easily be moved to alternative vacant premises nearby

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Post by Burnley Ace » Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:17 pm

MancunianClaret wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:26 am
The council would be the most likely candidate. Presumably through some kind of CPO if the owners don't want to sell.

Rawtenstall did a good job of flattening the rubbish shopping centre and replacing it with a nice new, well-used public space. Why couldn't something similar happen in Burnley?
Where do you think the Council are going to get the money from to buy and demolish these buildings?

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Post by Fretters » Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:31 pm

Claretforever wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:42 am
I have it in my mind that the length of a motorway entrance and exit to the west side of the junction would be too close to junction 10?
Nah, plenty of room. Probably no less than what there is between J9 and J8, for example.

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Post by Claretforever » Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:45 am

Fretters wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:31 pm
Nah, plenty of room. Probably no less than what there is between J9 and J8, for example.
Is that plenty of room in your opinion, or plenty of room by building guidelines with the proximity of J10 and then J9?

When they were doing the Rosegrove Accy Road junction the other year I’m sure it came up and think one of the councillors commented similar, that it had been looked it?

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Mala591 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:02 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:17 pm
Where do you think the Council are going to get the money from to buy and demolish these buildings?
Council tax! Burnley council are ‘stealing’ £2,000 out of my £9,620 state pension. I hope they are spending it extremely efficiently!

How long was the scaffolding up around the Town Hall?

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Post by Billy Balfour » Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:18 pm

Mala591 wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:02 pm
Council tax! Burnley council are ‘stealing’ £2,000 out of my £9,620 state pension.
Around 15% of our council tax goes to the local authority. The rest goes to LCC.
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Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:06 pm

Mala591 wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:02 pm
Council tax! Burnley council are ‘stealing’ £2,000 out of my £9,620 state pension. I hope they are spending it extremely efficiently!

How long was the scaffolding up around the Town Hall?
and does all £2000 go to Burnley Council? As for the scaffolding was Burnley Council doing the work?

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by MancunianClaret » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:27 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:17 pm
Where do you think the Council are going to get the money from to buy and demolish these buildings?
That's a matter of priorities - what does the LA want to spend money on? What proportion of budget spend is discretionary? Presumably there is some pot set aside for regeneration. Whether that pot is big enough is a different conversation.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:35 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:06 pm
and does all £2000 go to Burnley Council? As for the scaffolding was Burnley Council doing the work?
You’d assume Burnley council was paying for the scaffolding, either directly or indirectly, if it was around Burnley town hall.

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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by Fretters » Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:21 pm

Claretforever wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:45 am
Is that plenty of room in your opinion, or plenty of room by building guidelines with the proximity of J10 and then J9?

When they were doing the Rosegrove Accy Road junction the other year I’m sure it came up and think one of the councillors commented similar, that it had been looked it?
I used to work in the Highways dept at LCC and it was just never a priority - probably due to the short distance that you refer to, but it was never a case of regulations stopping it (at the time). I've queued from Kingsway up to J10 countless times on match days and it would change my life if I could just nip past Asda to J11!
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Re: If you could improve anything about Burnley (the town)

Post by JohnMac » Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:01 pm

:cry: A gigantic air freshener and fan to get rid of the smell of 'weed'.

It is a horrid stink, lingers and prevalent in so many areas.

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