Twine-Do We Know The Nature Of His Injury
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Twine-Do We Know The Nature Of His Injury
It may have already been identified on this board, if so apologies. However do readers, close to the club, know the exact extent of Twine's injury.I am keener to know this than when we are likely to see him feature, which just gets putting back and back by VK. It must have been fairly serious as we bought him I believe in June and he has played just 20 minutes this season
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Hes been back in training 3 weeks. Was an injury followed by a groin strain.
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Andy Jones of the Athletic suggested it was originally a hip injury.
Back in training now so you’d think with a few games during the break he’ll be in contention for the game at QPR.
Btw there has been at least 10 other threads discussing this topic.
Back in training now so you’d think with a few games during the break he’ll be in contention for the game at QPR.
Btw there has been at least 10 other threads discussing this topic.
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Many thanks for the infoBlatherwickstattoo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:24 pmHes been back in training 3 weeks. Was an injury followed by a groin strain.
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Thank you RV-I know theres been numerous discussions but I missed the real cause, which from the posts so far make me wiser. Fingers crossed now he is back training
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Will we see all 3 of the injured players in the squad next month?
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Hip, hip hooray a diagnosis at last
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Back in training. This is fabulous news. Happy days !
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Without a doubt. How exciting that Darko, Westy, Jay and Scott Twine are going to be added into that squad that we already have. Wow. There will be very little to stop us I think. Really excited about Twiney.burnley007 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:51 pmWill we see all 3 of the injured players in the squad next month?
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A fit Westwood would be a massive addition to our midfield
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He'll be in the squad for Qpr
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Westwood was acting to orders from the previous coaching team - I think we will see a new version higher up the pitch in the role that Brownhill plays. High energy, high press and a goal threat.Clive 1960 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:45 amI hope Westwood as got something else in is locker than hoofing it down the channel's like he did under Dyche as it's not in Kompanys book I wouldn't think
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He was a classy young footballer, with Aston Villa, before his robustness became most important.Clive 1960 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:45 amI hope Westwood as got something else in is locker than hoofing it down the channel's like he did under Dyche as it's not in Kompanys book I wouldn't think
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The good thing with Westwood is that he can play the Cullen / Cork role so will be massive for us if either is injured, suspended or need a rest. It will also prevent us having to move Brownhill deeper.
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No need for hope. He's our best passing midfielder by a long way.Clive 1960 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:45 amI hope Westwood as got something else in is locker than hoofing it down the channel's like he did under Dyche as it's not in Kompanys book I wouldn't think
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Good passer but always struggled to play through a press in the PL, often panicked and ended up losing the ball. Of course, that could be different in the Champ and in a system which presents more passing options. Hard to compare given the level difference but Cullen looks far more comfortable receiving the ball off the defence.summitclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:53 amNo need for hope. He's our best passing midfielder by a long way.
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He's played for years for us on a central midfield 2 against the world's best.
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Exactly this. Westwood will be right up there in this league in that Burnley team. Brings bags and bags of Premier League quality in. Will be brilliant when he is back.summitclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:01 pmHe's played for years for us on a central midfield 2 against the world's best.
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If he returns to his best, he will be more than good enough at this level, if he does break into the team, it will be hard to shift him
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Westwood will be a key player when he returns.
I’m not sure where they all are in terms of recovery but I would expect Westy to be ahead of Twine on the bench if fitness levels were the same.
I’m not certain we’ll see Twine straight away after the break. I think he’ll be introduced to the team very carefully, but expect Barnes, JBG and Bastien to all feature less on the bench. Can’t imagine we’ll drop Dervişoğlu unless the plan is to return him (which he may want tbf).
Have said before but our strength is unbelievable for this league and I do hope that starts to pay off as injuries and suspensions take their toll second half of the season. Also don’t think we need to sign anyone unless a loanee goes back.
I’m not sure where they all are in terms of recovery but I would expect Westy to be ahead of Twine on the bench if fitness levels were the same.
I’m not certain we’ll see Twine straight away after the break. I think he’ll be introduced to the team very carefully, but expect Barnes, JBG and Bastien to all feature less on the bench. Can’t imagine we’ll drop Dervişoğlu unless the plan is to return him (which he may want tbf).
Have said before but our strength is unbelievable for this league and I do hope that starts to pay off as injuries and suspensions take their toll second half of the season. Also don’t think we need to sign anyone unless a loanee goes back.
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While I understand the curiosity regarding Twine's non appearance so far, looking at our last game It's quite hard to see where he would massively improve the team.
He'll have to spend time on the bench to earn the right to play even when fully fit for me.
He'll have to spend time on the bench to earn the right to play even when fully fit for me.
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Cork already has 7 bookings, it's nailed on that he will serve a 2 match ban at some point.
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Not sure how he’ll be a ‘key player’ to be honest?NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:14 pmWestwood will be a key player when he returns.
I’m not sure where they all are in terms of recovery but I would expect Westy to be ahead of Twine on the bench if fitness levels were the same.
I’m not certain we’ll see Twine straight away after the break. I think he’ll be introduced to the team very carefully, but expect Barnes, JBG and Bastien to all feature less on the bench. Can’t imagine we’ll drop Dervişoğlu unless the plan is to return him (which he may want tbf).
Have said before but our strength is unbelievable for this league and I do hope that starts to pay off as injuries and suspensions take their toll second half of the season. Also don’t think we need to sign anyone unless a loanee goes back.
Both Cullen and Cork are shoe ins in that position at the moment.
And I’m sure Twine will be in (the squad) as soon as possible, Kompany knows he’s got the quality to unlock defences which sit deep.
As for development, you’d much rather be developing Twine this season than an out of contract JBG, for example.
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I'm not sure there's much between Westwood and Cullen to be honest. But certainly judging how Westwood will fare at this level in this team by reference to how he got on under Dyche in the Premier League is daft. At this level he'll be a very fine option as a deep lying playmaker - assuming he's got over his injury, and that's probably the biggest doubt that surrounds him.
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Westwood was a classy midfielder at Crewe where he learnt his trade. He'll be a brilliant addition to this squad and will push Cullen for a starting slot for sure. I agree with claretspice that you cannot compare how he played under SD, where he was instructed to play channel balls to Chris Wood, to how he'll play under VK. He must be chomping at the bit to get back.
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The only real difference in playing attributes is that Cullen is four years younger and certainly quicker in mind and bodyclaretspice wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:12 pmI'm not sure there's much between Westwood and Cullen to be honest. But certainly judging how Westwood will fare at this level in this team by reference to how he got on under Dyche in the Premier League is daft. At this level he'll be a very fine option as a deep lying playmaker - assuming he's got over his injury, and that's probably the biggest doubt that surrounds him.
Interesting to note that Cork is regularly picking up yellow cards for mistimed tackles due to his lack of pace, and it was the same for Westwood who served bans for yellows almost every season for exactly the same thing
Three decent central midfielders but would still like to see a younger version with pace, height and strength
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Pace, height, strength and presumably technical ability. Not much to ask is it...jojomk1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:41 pmThe only real difference in playing attributes is that Cullen is four years younger and certainly quicker in mind and body
Interesting to note that Cork is regularly picking up yellow cards for mistimed tackles due to his lack of pace, and it was the same for Westwood who served bans for yellows almost every season for exactly the same thing
Three decent central midfielders but would still like to see a younger version with pace, height and strength
Not sure incidentally that is why Cork is picking up bookings. Generally, his bookings have been smart fouls. They just need sharing out a little more.
Personally i think that with Twine giving us a genuine 10 option and Rodriguez also able to play there, Brownhill able to play a roving advanced midfield role or further back, and Cork, Westwood and Cullen naturals for 'double pivot' roles, plus Bastien who has a bit of everything in his game and Egan Riley who might end up a more physical holding midfield option, we've an extraordinary embarrassment of riches at this level.
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That’s what I was going to say, mainly very well executed tactical fouls which the refs see through.claretspice wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:48 pmPace, height, strength and presumably technical ability. Not much to ask is it...
Not sure incidentally that is why Cork is picking up bookings. Generally, his bookings have been smart fouls. They just need sharing out a little more.
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It's more interesting to note that Cork has been our best player so far this season.jojomk1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:41 pmThe only real difference in playing attributes is that Cullen is four years younger and certainly quicker in mind and body
Interesting to note that Cork is regularly picking up yellow cards for mistimed tackles due to his lack of pace, and it was the same for Westwood who served bans for yellows almost every season for exactly the same thing
Three decent central midfielders but would still like to see a younger version with pace, height and strength
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We do what Man City have done for years, which is tactical fouling in non dangerous areas to stop attacks developing. Cork is the main exponent of this. It is the least attractive aspect of our play but only a minor blemish given all the other positives!
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He's got 'lulling the rest of the division into a false sense of securityitus'. Rare thing to have tbh
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Not Barnes. After his showing against Blackburn he has shown he has got something to offer. I want to see more of this.NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:14 pmWestwood will be a key player when he returns.
I’m not sure where they all are in terms of recovery but I would expect Westy to be ahead of Twine on the bench if fitness levels were the same.
I’m not certain we’ll see Twine straight away after the break. I think he’ll be introduced to the team very carefully, but expect Barnes, JBG and Bastien to all feature less on the bench. Can’t imagine we’ll drop Dervişoğlu unless the plan is to return him (which he may want tbf).
Have said before but our strength is unbelievable for this league and I do hope that starts to pay off as injuries and suspensions take their toll second half of the season. Also don’t think we need to sign anyone unless a loanee goes back.
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Twine has to start on the bench for the first games, right?
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People will laugh at me but I think Barnsey will, within certain proportions, be like a new signing after last Sunday.
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I have to say, he’s looked sharper recently but prior to that he was offering very little. I’ve been quite surprised how much time Vinny has given him and JBG.
Legend and I absolutely love the guy though.
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I think it’s most likely an essential part of this system - when you’re pushed right up, possession in a very safe part of the pitch can soon become a dangerous attack. As we’ve demonstrated by conceding from throw-ins near the opposition corner flag!Culmclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:21 pmWe do what Man City have done for years, which is tactical fouling in non dangerous areas to stop attacks developing. Cork is the main exponent of this. It is the least attractive aspect of our play but only a minor blemish given all the other positives!
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Don’t think there’s a huge risk of that unless Browny finds his goal scoring form again in late December/early Jan.AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:10 pmAnd/or allow us to cash in on Brownhill if someone offers us top dollar for him in January.
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I think he’ll be key because we’ll be lucky to keep our first-choice 3 free from serious injury all season. Having him to come in will be important. But even if we didn’t, he’ll be key for rotation because we won’t be able to play 3 games per week consistently with exactly the same team.RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:36 pmNot sure how he’ll be a ‘key player’ to be honest?
Both Cullen and Cork are shoe ins in that position at the moment.
And I’m sure Twine will be in (the squad) as soon as possible, Kompany knows he’s got the quality to unlock defences which sit deep.
As for development, you’d much rather be developing Twine this season than an out of contract JBG, for example.
I think he might give Cullen a run for his money if he got a run in the side. Expect he’ll find it difficult to break in initially though.
Re: Twine, we’ll have to wait and see. I think spaces on the bench will be limited and he’ll have a job to win a place in the Matchday squad but then I don’t see what he’s doing in training.
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Suspect Westwood will initially be cover for Cullen and Cork. Jack is likely to be suspended soon, Cullen has a few bookings too.Plus there could be injuries for these two. Cork has already shown the Championship fixtures are a challenge for him coming so quickly, and then you have cup games. I am intrigued to see how VK gets Westwood to play if he starts
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Very long-term, and exceedingly imprecise.
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Ashley Westwood has been suspended twice in his six years with us , and remember that’s in the Premier League against the best players in the world.warksclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:00 pmSuspect Westwood will initially be cover for Cullen and Cork. Jack is likely to be suspended soon, Cullen has a few bookings too.Plus there could be injuries for these two. Cork has already shown the Championship fixtures are a challenge for him coming so quickly, and then you have cup games. I am intrigued to see how VK gets Westwood to play if he starts
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If he’s fit Twine will be in the sqaud. I get the impression that VK really rates him.
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Big if….arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:09 pmIf he’s fit Twine will be in the sqaud. I get the impression that VK really rates him.
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Why is it a big if?
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Not sure Westwood will be picked ahead of any of our current midfielders, but he will certainly be a massive upgrade on Brownhill when it comes to delivering corners and free-kicks.
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Westwood himself, in a fairly recent interview (Know not where, when or who with), said he saw him getting back in mid to late January
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If you blur your eyes and skim read the thread title you get 'Taekwondo: The Nature Of His Injury', which would be a really good name for a Wu-Tang Clan album.
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