The National Dirge?

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:05 pm

I am not a fan of our National Anthem. I would rather have something uplifting. My choice would be Jerusalem. What would you opt for if you had a choice?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:06 pm

The best anthem is the Italian one, up tempo and uplifting. Ours is dreary in comparison

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:07 pm

the theme tune from coronation street.

much more uplifting.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:08 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:06 pm
The best anthem is the Italian one, up tempo and uplifting. Ours is dreary in comparison

Or a good one like the French.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:09 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:06 pm
The best anthem is the Italian one, up tempo and uplifting. Ours is dreary in comparison

The same with La Marseillaise. The US anthem is also an uplifting tune.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:12 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:08 pm
Or a good one like the French.

yes that's the other notable one - both up tempo

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:12 pm

I vow to thee my country

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:12 pm

Either Elgar’s Land of Hope and Glory or Meatloaf’s Bat out of Hell.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:15 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:12 pm
Either Elgar’s Land of Hope and Glory or Meatloaf’s Bat out of Hell.

Bat Out Of Hell gets my vote

aclaretinstevenage · Post by **aclaretinstevenage** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:16 pm

Irish, Welsh and Scottish all better than the English (British) anthem especially at sporting events mainly I think because more of their fans actually sing the thing!

France and Italy probably have the best though.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:16 pm

As it is, great anthem.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:18 pm

What anthem was played for the English athletes at the recent Commonwealth games? I know they sometimes play Jerusalem at the cricket which is a far better tune

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:22 pm

I dont mind the Scouser version of it even if it is very similar to Iran's national anthem

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:23 pm

I’ve never understood why GSTK is the English national anthem when the monarchy is for Great Britain.

It’s fine for any GB team ,such as at the Olympics, but the all 4 home nations should have their own imo

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:50 pm

Highway to Hell ... AC/DC

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:51 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:18 pm
What anthem was played for the English athletes at the recent Commonwealth games? I know they sometimes play Jerusalem at the cricket which is a far better tune

They don’t, they play it before/as the players come out. National anthem is always the national anthem.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:51 pm

God Save the King is a great anthem. Anyone saying otherwise is clearly not singing it passionately enough.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:56 pm

National anthems are a bit passe.

Just have this at every game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AjkUyX0rVw

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:57 pm

It's a little odd that the National Anthem of the United Kingdom is the same anthem as one of the member nations.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:59 pm

It's awful and it is the British national anthem. England should have its awn.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:02 pm

Rowls wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:51 pm
God Save the King is a great anthem. Anyone saying otherwise is clearly not singing it passionately enough.

Especially the 4th & 5th verses

"Lord grant that Marshal Wade,
May by thy mighty aid,
Victory be holy made.
God save the King

May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God Save the King."

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:07 pm

Now the Queen has passed I’d very much like a Jerusalem or Land of Hope Glory . But let’s face it , it’s not gonna change in King Charles’s reign for sure .

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:08 pm

Now the Queen has passed I’d very much like a Jerusalem or Land of Hope Glory . But let’s face it , it’s not gonna change in King Charles’s reign for sure . Though God save the Queen was a great Anthem when roared out .

Roger Mellie · Post by **Roger Mellie** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:15 pm

I think Slades Merry Christmas would unify the nation..

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:24 pm

Jerusalem for England.

GSTK for GB events.

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:10 pm

Yes..surely as a group people with a local attachment to "dark satanic mills" we should all get behind jerusalem ? Have any more stirring words ever been penned than :
Bring me my bow of burning gold
Bring me my arrows of desire
Bring me my spear .Oh clouds unfold.
Bring me my chariot of fire"

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:22 pm

King Charles recognises that it is not necessarily a good thing to have anything too jingoistic, so that probably rules out two of his favourite composers, parry and Elgar.

As a country we are pretty doomed, so let's go for some joy division.
New dawn fades? That would be appropriate every two years at tournament time.
Gove, gove will tear us apart again.

Volvoclaret · Post by **Volvoclaret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:23 pm

Billy Connolly got it right...theme tune from the Archers. All together now...tum ti tum; tum ti tum...........

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:12 pm

Highway to Hell.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:23 pm

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:23 pm
Billy Connolly got it right...theme tune from the Archers. All together now...tum ti tum; tum ti tum...........

Ha ha. You got that in before me. Great sketch by him talking about us being lapped at the opening ceremony. And he mentioned that it is terribly racist toward the Scots.

‘We are Monrovia and we don’t give a f*ck’. Comedy gold.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:36 pm

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:23 pm
Billy Connolly got it right...theme tune from the Archers. All together now...tum ti tum; tum ti tum...........

Had forgotten that Vc excellent

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:36 pm

Queen "We Are The Champions" terrific tune.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:51 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emPhXdwhQoE

Not only is the Welsh national anthem better than ours, but the unofficial one is an absolute banger, even though I don't have the slightest clue about what they are singing about

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:57 pm

When you’re smmmiiiiilllliiiinnnngggggggg…..

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Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:58 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:51 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emPhXdwhQoE

Not only is the Welsh national anthem better than ours, but the unofficial one is an absolute banger, even though I don't have the slightest clue about what they are singing about

I always thought they sang

"My Hen layed a haddock on top of a tree"

"Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi"

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:02 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:58 pm
I always thought they sang

"My Hen layed a haddock on top of a tree"

"Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi"

Its probably about hanging Englishmen from the walls of Cricceth Castle, but its so good that I wouldn't give a s**t*

*bit like "Flower of Scotland", another banger

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:05 pm

Surely Jerusalem should be the national anthem of Israel?

atlantalad · Post by **atlantalad** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:21 am

It’s got to be:

Don’t look back in anger.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:45 am

Billy Connolly recommends, the theme from the Archers.

Why do people actually suggest old Victorian hymns or other music written in the 19th century, usually depicting Empire?

Bizarre!

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:34 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xsv9iZ ... BillyBraggFor Qatar
Billy Bragg

Genius lyrics "Stop playing with yourselves in hard currency hotels
I look like Robert De Niro, I drive a Mitsubishi Zero"

Corky · Post by **Corky** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:35 am

As an atheist and a republican, god save the king frankly does nothing for me. And I would agree with those that have already mentioned it that it does seem strange that we do not have our own distinct English anthem.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:36 am

Rowls wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:51 pm
God Save the King is a great anthem. Anyone saying otherwise is clearly not singing it passionately enough.

You might catch a few.

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:47 am

sweat caroline most people can sing it

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:57 am

pureclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:47 am
sweat caroline most people can sing it

I've met her ...

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:01 am

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:07 pm
Now the Queen has passed I’d very much like a Jerusalem or Land of Hope Glory . But let’s face it , it’s not gonna change in King Charles’s reign for sure .

Slightly off topic but the use of "has passed" instead of "has died" still irritates me.
I suppose we're "sorry for Her family's loss" too...

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:12 am

I think Jerusalem is perfect for the Brexit generation.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:21 am

I thought this thread was about the BBC not showing the opening ceremony

Title would have probably read National Embarrassment

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:37 am

Who would have been embarrassed?

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:54 am

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:37 am
Who would have been embarrassed?

We should be that the BBC now censor what we can and can't watch, something as trivial as a WC opening ceremony

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:04 am

So the BBC decide an opening ceremony isn't worth showing and that's "censorship"?
The Qatari culture stinks and our national broadcaster, in line with public opinion, I'd wager, has left it to those so interested in an opening ceremony such as this to find it on YouTube or wherever.