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15 Volleys

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:55 am

We've scored some crackers over the last few years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN2OHKznTxk

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by martin_p » Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:38 am

They need to look up what a volley is! There’s maybe ten in that collection of fifteen. All cracking goals though.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by bumba » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:25 am

The Matt Lowton one for me is unbelievable, if City scored that with De Bruyne finishing it off we'd be seeing it every day. It's up there with the best in the premier league
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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by nonayclaret » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:44 pm

Blake's at that moment in our history was the best

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Darnhill Claret » Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:14 pm

martin_p, I would love to know what your definition of a volley is, because I've just watched 15 volleys.
I'll help you out. A volley is when a ball not on the ground is struck. A ball in mid air.
If you don't know what a volley is you won't know what a half volley is either. That is when a ball is hit as it drops and hits the ground, at the precise moment that it hits the ground.

Hope that helps

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by RVclaret » Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:23 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:14 pm
martin_p, I would love to know what your definition of a volley is, because I've just watched 15 volleys.
I'll help you out. A volley is when a ball not on the ground is struck. A ball in mid air.
If you don't know what a volley is you won't know what a half volley is either. That is when a ball is hit as it drops and hits the ground, at the precise moment that it hits the ground.

Hope that helps
Incorrect. A volley is when the ball does not bounce at all and the player hits it, the ball cannot touch the floor prior (Blake’s goal for example). Others, like Arfield v Chelsea, are not volleys, they are simply shots from a bounce.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:52 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:14 pm
martin_p, I would love to know what your definition of a volley is, because I've just watched 15 volleys.
I'll help you out. A volley is when a ball not on the ground is struck. A ball in mid air.
If you don't know what a volley is you won't know what a half volley is either. That is when a ball is hit as it drops and hits the ground, at the precise moment that it hits the ground.

Hope that helps
Just like all those volleys that tennis players hit after the ball has bounced, and the sport they named volleyball due to the law requiring the ball to bounce before a player can hit it back over the net.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by IanMcL » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:03 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:52 pm
Just like all those volleys that tennis players hit after the ball has bounced, and the sport they named volleyball due to the law requiring the ball to bounce before a player can hit it back over the net.
????

A volley is no bounce - eg Robbie Blake v MU. Volleyball - essential ball does not touch ground, on your side, hence all that diving, to keep it off the ground.

Half volley, also as stated previously. Ball and foot or racket meet just as ball hits ground.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Darnhill Claret » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:12 pm

Yes, I definitely got that wrong in the way I described it. Still, there are 11 volleys and 1 Maxwell Cornet strike that wasn’t a volley, but the other 3 are classified as self engineered volleys, where an initial touch is taken prior to the strike.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Darnhill Claret » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:21 pm

It’s ok Ian, Rileybobs just left a sarcasm emoji off.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Darnhill Claret » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:26 pm

I forgot to say, when a player either hits it in the accepted way, or if he takes a second touch when the ball is in the air. I should have read before posting so Martin, I apologise for my sarcastic post especially as what I posted was incorrect.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by morpheus2 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:33 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:03 pm
????

A volley is no bounce - eg Robbie Blake v MU. Volleyball - essential ball does not touch ground, on your side, hence all that diving, to keep it off the ground.

Half volley, also as stated previously. Ball and foot or racket meet just as ball hits ground.
Actually, I think a volley might be when it goes straight over your head
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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Shappie » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:38 pm

nonayclaret wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:44 pm
Blake's at that moment in our history was the best


And will struggle to ever be beaten

First home game in the top flight for 33 years against the reigning champions and arguably the biggest club in the world

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Darnhill Claret » Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:09 pm

Are we all agreed on the difference between a lob and a chip. A chip is when you clip the ball from on the ground into the air, as in chipping the ‘keeper, or a lob which is when you try and lift a bouncing ball over the ‘keeper. Obviously it doesn’t have to be a goal attempt but often is. West wood chips the ball into the channels over the heads of opposition defenders.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:47 pm

Should have called it 10 full and half volleys to escape the pedant police.
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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by ClaretCliff » Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:57 pm

Definitely not, Elwa. There are no half volleys in that selection.
Yours, P.Edant.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:25 am

jeez, I don't think I'll bother posting stuff again in case it upsets people

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Neil » Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:30 am

So what's a goblin?
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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by claretandy » Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:50 am

Arfield v Chelsea
Barnes v Wolves
Hendrick v Bournemouth
Cornet v Southampton

Not volleys.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by dougcollins » Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:04 am

A true volley requires connecting with 1/3 of the surface of the ball to impart the correct amount of topspin. And no prior bounce, obviously.

A 'side-foot volley' isn't a volley at all.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Firthy » Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:15 am

Regardless of anything else Blakes goal still brings a tear to me eye every time I watch it. I travelled over for that match with a friend who was a Man U supporter and he bought the tickets so ended up in the away end. As luck would have it I was right behind the goal where he scored, I'll never forget that moment.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:22 am

I get all the technical arguments about what is and what isn't a volley, but unless its twatted as hard as possible its not a volley
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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Croydon Claret » Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:38 am

Used to love volley vents, espacially the prawn ones
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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by dougcollins » Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:41 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:22 am
I get all the technical arguments about what is and what isn't a volley, but unless its twatted as hard as possible its not a volley
That's the thing about a volley, it's technique and topspin that puts the velocity on the ball. You don't actually have to **** them as hard as you think for it to proper fly.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Darnhill Claret » Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:39 pm

Not sure about the topspin aspect Doug. I know that Ronaldo and other free-kick specialists have seemingly mastered a new kind of strike partly due to how some balls fly differently to previously but I’ve never knowingly hit a volley with topspin.

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Re: 15 Volleys

Post by Darnhill Claret » Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:42 pm

And the number of commentators who confuse ‘instep’ with the inside of the foot, amazes me.

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