Flu & covid jabs

[bobinho]

Having had flu twice in my lifetime, once as a young man, I’ll be taking this jab. Flu is absolutely brutal, and takes you out big time.

Covid? Nah, I’m done with all that nonsense. For me and EVERYONE I know who has had it, it ranged from a sniffle to a bad cold/hangover. Most were rougher off the jab than covid itself.
No more jabs, DEFINITELY no more lockdowns and no more restrictions.

[Bordeauxclaret]

No flu jab for me. Just a load of scare mongering.
I’ve never had a bad dose of it so it can’t be that bad. People who say it is have been brainwashed.

[taio]

No flu jab for me. Just a load of scare mongering.
I’ve never had a bad dose of it so it can’t be that bad. People who say it is have been brainwashed.

People who say what are brainwashed?

[Zlatan]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001f ... are-mobile

[bfcjg]

Having had flu twice in my lifetime, once as a young man, I’ll be taking this jab. Flu is absolutely brutal, and takes you out big time.

Covid? Nah, I’m done with all that nonsense. For me and EVERYONE I know who has had it, it ranged from a sniffle to a bad cold/hangover. Most were rougher off the jab than covid itself.
No more jabs, DEFINITELY no more lockdowns and no more restrictions.

Perhaps they were rougher of the jab then when actually had covid is because the jab protected them ? It's like saying never wearing my seat belt again because it gave me a friction burn when I skidded and hit a tree.

[Lancasterclaret]

Bordeaux is the only one I'm 100% sure isn't being serious

The rest?

With their posting record on here, anything is possible!

[ClaretDiver]

Had both just recently, felt a little rough off the covid jab the day after and a bit of a sore arm from the flu jab but both nothing serious!

[Billy Balfour]

Pretty pointless

Saved millions of lives, but yeah, pretty pointless. The utter shite you read on here, eh.

[bobinho]

Perhaps they were rougher of the jab then when actually had covid is because the jab protected them ? It's like saying never wearing my seat belt again because it gave me a friction burn when I skidded and hit a tree.

I suppose that would be like saying that yes, but I also personally Know some unjabbed folk who have had covid WITHOUT symptoms and had they not tested due to being in contact they wouldn’t have known they had it, so shall we say it never really existed anyway? Of course not.
Some of them had covid BEFORE their jabs so that’ll take some explaining eh?

[Nori1958]

No flu jab for me. Just a load of scare mongering.
I’ve never had a bad dose of it so it can’t be that bad. People who say it is have been brainwashed.

You've probably never had flu at all, just bad colds

[claretonthecoast1882]

No flu jab for me. Just a load of scare mongering.
I’ve never had a bad dose of it so it can’t be that bad. People who say it is have been brainwashed.

Fishing with dynamite probably wouldn't get the same results as this post

[martin_p]

I suppose that would be like saying that yes, but I also personally Know some unjabbed folk who have had covid WITHOUT symptoms and had they not tested due to being in contact they wouldn’t have known they had it, so shall we say it never really existed anyway? Of course not.
Some of them had covid BEFORE their jabs so that’ll take some explaining eh?

Well no not really, it’s easily explained. Millions of people had covid before the vaccines existed and didn’t die, it affects different people in different ways depending on a number of factors. But the point is that it did kill 150,000 people in a fairly short space of time and the vaccines have slowed that considerably and allowed life to return to normal.

[Bordeauxclaret]

You've probably never had flu at all, just bad colds

Yeah. Come to think of it I’m not sure flu even exists. I mean I’m told that hundreds of thousands of people have died from it but I haven’t and I don’t know anyone who has so why should I believe it.
God knows what they are putting into peoples bodies and for what end.

[martin_p]

Yeah. Come to think of it I’m not sure flu even exists. I mean I’m told that hundreds of thousands of people have died from it but I haven’t and I don’t know anyone who has so why should I believe it.
God knows what they are putting into peoples bodies and for what end.

And the vaccines are tested on just mice you know (and I suspect the mice are probably foreign or muslamic or something).

[martin_p]

Phfizer said they had done trial's on humans which they lied to in court when asked about this they said it was a race against time. So they basically told lie's and couldn't answer the questions put to them .

I’d love to read that story, have you got a link?

[bobinho]

I can imagine the disappointment when he provides it….

[claretonthecoast1882]

I can imagine the disappointment when he provides it….

It is on page 16 of the latest Viz

[Bordeauxclaret]

And the vaccines are tested on just mice you know (and I suspect the mice are probably foreign or muslamic or something).

It wouldn’t surprise me. Something big is coming on the back of these flu vaccines believe me.

Have you see the amount of injury time at football games since they started rolling out this years version. Something is definitely up.

[Bosscat]

It wouldn’t surprise me. Something big is coming on the back of these flu vaccines believe me.

Have you see the amount of injury time at football games since they started rolling out this years version. Something is definitely up.

Its the microchip they are putting under your skin so they can see where you are using Satellites

[Lancasterclaret]

Its the microchip they are putting under your skin so they can see where you are using Satellites

Microchip?

man, that is so 2020, its eggs man

Eggs that will grow and take over your mind, and you won't even know it

All over facebook

[martin_p]

Microchip?

man, that is so 2020, its eggs man

Eggs that will grow and take over your mind, and you won't even know it

All over facebook

Yeah, but they only tested the eggs on mice so no need to worry.

[Bosscat]

Microchip?

man, that is so 2020, its eggs man

Eggs that will grow and take over your mind, and you won't even know it

All over facebook

Egg and Chips ... thats the plan Micro Eggs and Micro Chips ... and they are using the Kevin "Bacon" Adverts on Telly to hide the fact

[Lancasterclaret]

Egg and Chips ... thats the plan Micro Eggs and Micro Chips ... and they are using the Kevin "Bacon" Adverts on Telly to hide the fact

There are no limits to how low they will stoop

WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT THIS?

[Hipper]

I'm under 40 and have had no letters or texts to say that I should get a Covid jab.
Is that how it works, or have I neglected to sign up to something I should have?

As martin_p said it's meant for the over 50s etc.:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... mn-booster

I'm 69 and got a letter from my GP for the Covid booster. I don't think I've had a letter about Flu this year but last year I did and if I didn't want it I had to tell them.

[Hipper]

Microchip?

man, that is so 2020, its eggs man

Eggs that will grow and take over your mind, and you won't even know it

All over facebook

That may explain why there were no eggs available in my supermarket this morning.

[CaptJohn]

Had both a few months back, one in left arm and one in right. No issues other than sore arms for 24 hours. I think that it is essential that everyone who is invited, should have the jabs and I fail to understand any reasons not to.

[Hipper]

I know a fellow aged 48 who's got Long Covid. He was pretty fit but is now tired just standing up. He's had it four months now. I can't recall if he said he'd had his jabs or not.

[Clive 1960]

I’d love to read that story, have you got a link?

It's on a Dr John Campbell video what I watched asking the question in a European court and the phfizer representative had to give evidence .

[Clive 1960]

I can imagine the disappointment when he provides it….

Just look Dr John Campbell video on YouTube on the phfizer vaccine and maybe you might be surprised and shocked like I was .

[Boss Hogg]

Having had flu twice in my lifetime, once as a young man, I’ll be taking this jab. Flu is absolutely brutal, and takes you out big time.

Covid? Nah, I’m done with all that nonsense. For me and EVERYONE I know who has had it, it ranged from a sniffle to a bad cold/hangover. Most were rougher off the jab than covid itself.
No more jabs, DEFINITELY no more lockdowns and no more restrictions.

Had Flu jab. As you say Flu is quite serious and not just a severe cold ad some people think. Think I’m done with Covid jabs now having had Covid. Whilst they were necessary at the time they were rushed in so I’ll wait for more data before I have any more unless it severely restricts travel.

[martin_p]

It's on a Dr John Campbell video what I watched asking the question in a European court and the phfizer representative had to give evidence .

A quick Google and (as I suspected to be honest) he’s well known for spreading covid and vaccine mis-information.

[bobinho]

Just look Dr John Campbell video on YouTube on the phfizer vaccine and maybe you might be surprised and shocked like I was .

Oh I’ve seen it mate. I’ve long since stopped using the BBC/Sky/Govt as my only sources of information.
Some choose to simply swallow everything they are belt fed by the govt/bbc, whilst ridiculing every doctor and healthcare professional who challenges the the information put out. Basically anyone who hasn’t been appointed by the government shouldn’t be listened to. That’s Goebbels levels of information control.
Some seek out alternative sources of information and swallow that - like the government are really lizards from outer space.
Some take both sources and try to see the differences in what’s being reported in the mainstream. Then they make their mind up, but there opinions are no less credible than anyone else because when you choose to open your mind you soon see that the information that is being peddled to get us all in a box is flawed.
We were told the tests were rigorous and complete prior to the vaccine being rolled out. How did that turn out? Was that the only lie? You KNOW where the smart money is. When more lies are exposed (as they will be) the amount of whataboutery on here will be weapons grade.

As with almost everything in life, the truth is hidden right in the middle of the two sides of the argument.

[Padiham2022]

Can’t multi quite everything, not sure I know how to , but yeah it’s just the cold or flu , doesn’t affect that many in the grand scheme of things , maybe those who feel it may should consider it , each to their own bur for me it’s nonsense

[Padiham2022]

Good post by bobinho by the way . Seems everything has to be polarised nowadays , there is simply no middle ground or nuance any more .

[Padiham2022]

Saved millions of lives, but yeah, pretty pointless. The utter shite you read on here, eh.

A mere fraction of what I said . Pointless to me , can’t speak for anyone else . Not sure it has saved millions of lives , but that’s a can of worms innit

[Clive 1960]

A quick Google and (as I suspected to be honest) he’s well known for spreading covid and vaccine mis-information.

He as got a few things wrong which he admitted but the camera in court doesn't lie when she was asked .

[Zlatan]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001f ... are-mobile

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001f4lp

For some reason the link I shared takes you to the following episode of this podcast. The right one is entitled "What have we learnt from Covid?" with some great explanations around vaccines and the immune system from actual experts in the field.

Go to approx. 24:25 minutes to hear the argument regarding t-shirts such as:

"I don't need a vaccine because I have an immune system"

Excellent explanation as to why that is wrong.

Also, some great explanations on how vaccines actually work and also good discussion around the conspiracy theories.

This podcast is an excellent listen for many other subjects too.

[FCBurnley]

Anybody on here regret taking the vaccine and anybody on here regret not taking it ? ( Covid)

[Middle-agedClaret]

Having been on the “shielding “ list I’ve now had 5 COVID jabs. I had the last one together, with this year’s ‘flu jab, a few weeks ago. I have never had any adverse reaction.
I don’t understand why anyone would refuse such a benefit.

[martin_p]

You’ve got to wonder when people start believing the evidence of their own eyes rather than some bloke on the internet. Covid vaccines have gone into millions, if not billions of people in the last two year which is a pretty big sample size. There have been no big problems although I accept that some people have reacted badly to it and even died as a result. So while I can sort of understand the nervousness about vaccines at the start of 2021, if you weren’t prepared to believe scientists, we are now nearly two years later and the argument is proved, the vaccines are safe.

[Lancasterclaret]

I think what is really important is that vaccines developed in the West have managed to control it, so that we can live normal lives with it, whilst in places like China, a weak vaccine plus draconian attempts to control the spread have resulted in huge, continuing issues with it

[RVclaret]

Having been on the “shielding “ list I’ve now had 5 COVID jabs. I had the last one together, with this year’s ‘flu jab, a few weeks ago. I have never had any adverse reaction.
I don’t understand why anyone would refuse such a benefit.

If I was old, obese, had difficulties breathing, lived an unhealthy lifestyle (smoker / drinker) then I could see the benefits. For myself, who isn’t any of those, there aren’t any benefits, in fact there are more risks than benefits. Unfortunately i was forced into having it so I could go on football matches and travel, but that’ll be it, no more.

[HahaYeah]

Haven't had any - won't be having any.

[Middle-agedClaret]

If I was old, obese, had difficulties breathing, lived an unhealthy lifestyle (smoker / drinker) then I could see the benefits. For myself, who isn’t any of those, there aren’t any benefits, in fact there are more risks than benefits. Unfortunately i was forced into having it so I could go on football matches and travel, but that’ll be it, no more.

You weren’t forced to have it. You made a simple lifestyle choice. You could have chosen to forgo the discretionary travel and sport.

[Padiham2022]

Anybody on here regret taking the vaccine and anybody on here regret not taking it ? ( Covid)

Yes I only did it to play the game . Clearly not really a requirement now for the most . Should have held out really
But like a holiday

[Padiham2022]

You weren’t forced to have it. You made a simple lifestyle choice. You could have chosen to forgo the discretionary travel and sport.

Technically not forced as long as you didn’t mind not being able to to some pretty basic things . Policies that didn’t last long either so pretty irrelevant in hindsight .
Pretty alarming how all and sundry were happy just to be asking people about their personal medical details

[Bosscat]

Anybody on here regret taking the vaccine and anybody on here regret not taking it ? ( Covid)

No regrets taking the vacc when offered at all.

[Lowbankclaret]

It was better when you had Fly, Lowbank! Much more interesting!

On a similar subject.
We had a Turkey ordered from Herb fed poultry . They caught bird flu, all had to be culled. Could be a shortage around the corner.

[Lowbankclaret]

No flu jab for me. Just a load of scare mongering.
I’ve never had a bad dose of it so it can’t be that bad. People who say it is have been brainwashed.

I have had Flu 3 times I would say, very close to being admitted to hospital twice due to not being able to breath. The ctual Flu part of this one was bad but not as bad as the twice before.
The main problem is the post viral fatigue after it.
In 2001 I was off work for 8 weeks, sleeping 22 hours a day, for the first 3 weeks and then slowly sleeping less and doing small amounts of exercise. It is debilitating.
Currently on week 3 this time and sleeping 13-14 hours each night.

For those who have never had it, I hope you never do. You don’t look ill, but are constantly feeling weak and have no energy to do anything.

[Jimscho]

I am insulin dependant Diabetic so was in an at risk group.Have had all the vaccines for Covid and also the flu jab.I had no adverse effect after any of the jabs.I am 73.I had Covid in June and felt like I had a mild cold.
About 2/3 months ago I went to Tesco Rawtenstall and noticed some protestors outside.When I came out I was waiting to cross the road with a female protestor.I asked what the protest was about and she said we are protesting that the vaccines dont work and we haven’t and won’t have the vaccine.The next words that came out of her mouth were’I finished up in intensive care withCovid but I still won’t have the vaccine’.She also said a lot of people have had Covid but thought they only had a cold.Didn’t point out to her they were probably the ones who had the vaccine.I thought can’t argue with stupid and walked away.