England v USA

[dermotdermot]

Pathetic

Lighten up, sunshine.

[taio]

It's OK Southgate was really pleased

[summitclaret]

So krbfc Foden isn't injured . Southgate's really pleased , unbelievable.

That's maybe enough to sack him as soon as a
we get home. Knobhead.

[Goalposts]

The truth is as in all his managerial appointments. Southgate is out of his depth in terms of being able to tactically set up a side for different challenges presented by teams 4-6 years under his management still has no identity or shape. Or clear feel and style

[KRBFC]

So krbfc Foden isn't injured . Southgate's really pleased , unbelievable.

I'm really pleased too, thought the performance was turd and boring (like the Scotland game) but you can't win a World Cup in the group stage, through to the next round with a game to play, i'll take it. It's a hell of a lot better than the dross we've seen for the last 20 years.

[Vegas Claret]

Fans will be delighted to go back to the awful side that lost to Iceland, Turkey, USA etc.

Having flashbacks of that Rob Green error vs USA, the Robinson OG against Croatia.

shudder

[RVclaret]

Southgates interview was actually frightening

I’ve not watched it but I can imagine what it was like.

[Vegas Claret]

Southgates interview was actually frightening

Astounding interview. He was honest against Iran saying we were poor at the back but I genuinely have no clue how he thought that was a good performance, at best it was distinctly average

[RVclaret]

So Foden wasn’t injured. Well then that’s utterly inexplicable from the manager. Should have been on at 55 minutes.

[Vino blanco]

Gareth was pleased with the way we built it up from the back and controlled the game. What planet is he on?

[LTUK89]

While that was utterly dreadful to watch you’ve got to remember that USA essentially played 8 at the back for the majority of the game. It was nothing like the kind of game we’ll play in the last 16 or further.

[expoultryboy]

He'll probably bring Phillips back for Bellingham in the knockouts . I'm beginning to hate him nearly as much as Simon Garner ( and that's a lot ) .

[clansman]

When McGuire is man of the match , which he was , it speaks volumes. Sterling saka and Bellingham were awful as were Mount and Rice.Grealish at least adds something different and scares defenders. And where was Kane playing. Iran against wales showed desire and intense physicality. We showed neither.

[Stanbill05]

Higher tempo was successful last week. Why revert to slowing it right down and **** around at the back. No easy ball out? Be braver, go toe to toe and trust your good players. Play at pace or **** off Southgate.

[RVclaret]

Gareth was pleased with the way we built it up from the back and controlled the game. What planet is he on?

The build up from the back was terrible, Rice turns like a caravan and there was zero line breaking passes or runs from anyone. If he wants to know what good building up from the back is he should come and watch Burnley and THB.

[KRBFC]

So Foden wasn’t injured. Well then that’s utterly inexplicable from the manager. Should have been on at 55 minutes.

It's the typical UTC classic, a player gets better without playing. Vydra was the next Ronaldo on here until he actually played for us and wasn't very good. I'm a big Foden fan but I'm yet to see him play well for England.

[bobinho]

Yeah and you were crying after the Scotland game. Job done, could be worse, could be Argentina or Germany, or England under Sven/Mclaren/Capello/Roy and lose to these nations.

Anyway, what happened to protesting and not watching?

Firstly, I wasn’t crying. I haven’t cried since my dog died 2 years ago. I highlighted a poor performance against Scotland. I highlighted a manager who failed to get his side up for a game. And I was right.

How could it possibly be worse by us being either Argentina or Germany? One of those two could easily win it despite a poor first result. Anyone but an utter, utter buffoon would know that.

And I haven’t watched a single ball being kicked. Not one. Where have I said I have? Why have you assumed I have based on my comment? Could it be because you’re a ******* moron?
Can’t escape the result no matter where I go or what I do. Can’t stop notifications coming thru to my fone which confirms everything I already knew. Can’t help knowing the results if I watch the news or put the radio on it’s there. So I choose to come on here and get the general feeling of how it went. I haven’t commented on how we played, because I don’t know. I haven’t rated any of the players, because I haven’t watched it. I haven’t chastised GS because if his team selections or how he’s set them up because I haven’t watched. I haven’t slated any players I know shouldn’t have gone because I haven’t watched them. i haven’t complained about GS and his lack of tactical nous because I haven’t watched him floundering in the sidelines discussing god knows what with his assistants. I don’t need to watch to know what we are going to get.

So do me a favour you ******* troll…. Don’t quote me, don’t engage me….. and I’ll do you the same favour. You just carry on carrying on and leave me be.

[RVclaret]

It's the typical UTC classic, a player gets better without playing. Vydra was the next Ronaldo on here until he actually played for us and wasn't very good. I'm a big Foden fan but I'm yet to see him play well for England.

I’ve seen him play well many times. Maybe not as well as he does for City but that tells you more about the manager than player.

[Ampth7]

So Foden wasn’t injured. Well then that’s utterly inexplicable from the manager. Should have been on at 55 minutes.

Southgate made it sound like the subs were already decided before the game started! Just bizarre to leave a player like Foden out instead of Mount/Sterling especially as we were crying out for someone who can keep the ball under pressure. Just a strange decision, especially as both Sterling and Mount have been awful all season long.

[taio]

It's the typical UTC classic, a player gets better without playing. Vydra was the next Ronaldo on here until he actually played for us and wasn't very good. I'm a big Foden fan but I'm yet to see him play well for England.

UTC classic - wild exaggeration in an attempt to make a point...Vydra was the next Ronaldo

[Carwin261]

Southgate saying he expected a performance like that after demolishing Iran,does that me that every time we have a good win we play crap the game after?

[KRBFC]

Firstly, I wasn’t crying. I haven’t cried since my dog died 2 years ago. I highlighted a poor performance against Scotland. I highlighted a manager who failed to get his side up for a game. And I was right.

How could it possibly be worse by us being either Argentina or Germany? One of those two could easily win it despite a poor first result. Anyone but an utter, utter buffoon would know that.

I'll tell you how it went, England are pretty much through to the knockout round with a group game to spare. Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia, Germany are on the brink of elimination.

[CrosspoolClarets]

I hope Foden is actually injured (well actually not) otherwise it’s the worst decision I’ve probably ever seen not to have him on this pitch

Let’s not forget we went into a home final against Italy with 3 attackers (Kane, Mount, Sterling) and 7 defensively minded players.

Joint worst.

Funny hearing him try to defend it though - the interviewer went easy on him, the follow up was obvious - “Foden would get in the starting line up for every team in the 32, except yours. and for you he can’t even get off the bench, is he the problem, or are you the problem?”

[Devils_Advocate]

Hopeless performance tonight with the only positive is that it makes the Wales game a bit more interesting.

One thing I would say is that in the Euro's we started well against Croatia and then was dogsh*t in the second game against Scotland and then built from there. Hopefully we take the negatives from this game and push on like we did 18 months ago

[JohnDearyMe]

Hopeless performance tonight with the only positive is that it makes the Wales game a bit more interesting.

One thing I would say is that in the Euro's we started well against Croatia and then was dogsh*t in the second game against Scotland and then built from there. Hopefully we take the negatives from this game and push on like we did 18 months ago

Very dull but fair play to the USA. They looked better than they did against Wales

[Top Claret]

The only positive from tonights performance was that the lads took the knee

[Billy Balfour]

Manbabies getting upset.

http://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/1596259835451842560

[Swizzlestick]

Drab performance and USA played well. Foden has to be in this team. I’d be tempted to leave Kane out of the Wales game tbh as it’s almost certain we’re through now and he looked off it. Expecting a better performance against Wales.

[gandhisflipflop]

The only positive from tonights performance was that the lads took the knee

Hahahahahaha

[1882Clarets1882]

The only positive from tonights performance was that the lads took the knee

[1882Clarets1882]

The only positive from tonights performance was that the lads took the knee

100 % . I'm sure twitter will be set alight with the Gary Lineker Seal of Approval with that , oh so important, gesture . Makes you proud to be English, while the Americans, well, err, just didn’t.

[gandhisflipflop]

Roll call for the racists

HahaYeah - check
gandhisflipflop - check
Wrongo - check

Still a few missing but its a solid start

Name one post of mine where I have been racist? You won’t find any you sad sad man.

[Devils_Advocate]

Name one post of mine where I have been racist? You won’t find any you sad sad man.

I've seen them deleted but please dont let the free speech of my opinion trigger you

[box_of_frogs]

I'll tell you how it went, England are pretty much through to the knockout round with a group game to spare. Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia, Germany are on the brink of elimination.

Sadly, it’s comments like this that confirm you as a complete muppet.

Not that I value your opinion. It’s just that you talk b0ll0cks.

[Taffy on the wing]

Manbabies getting upset.

Pathetic!

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Looks like the lads did whatever they felt like against Iran but followed their orders to a tee this time around

[Stayingup]

Its not a loss and USA are a very decent team. But it seems every manager over many years now can get the odd good result - 5-1 v Germany, 6- 2 against a very disturbed Iran - but mostly its pretty mundane stuff the team dishes up. Harry Maguire mom says a lot really.

[Swizzlestick]

Sadly, it’s comments like this that confirm you as a complete muppet.

Not that I value your opinion. It’s just that you talk b0ll0cks.

Unsure what angered you about that pretty much factual post.

[SouthLondonexile]

There were three positives I took from the game:
1. We didn’t lose
2. Grealish steadied the ship
3. Rashford really needs to start.

[Lancasterclaret]

I'm a fan of Southgate, but his loyalty to the players cost him a bit here

Should have made a couple of changes at half time, and it could have been any of Trippier, Saka, Bellingham, Mount or Sterling

Leaving it to the sixty odd minutes and seeing an immediate improvement with Henderson and Grealish, he should probably have used all his subs to try to get the win, but I think he opted for safety and almost certain qualification

I don't like it, but I understand it

[Bosscat]

There were three positives I took from the game:
1. We didn’t lose
2. Grealish steadied the ship
3. Rashford really needs to start.

3 positives I took ...

1, We didn't lose
2, Watched in the Pub
3, Won the Quiz

All in all a better day than if you were Welsh

[Roosterbooster]

The fact Southgate can't work out how to even get Foden off the bench tells you everything you need to know Southgate

[Goobs]

Got to love England fans. "Maguire is ****" *wins MOM "England must be **** if Maguire is MOM"
"Argentina are class" *lose to SA "it happens" *England draw with USA "England are ****"
England reach WC semi then Euro Final "Southgate is lucky and ****"

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Sadly, it’s comments like this that confirm you as a complete muppet.

Not that I value your opinion. It’s just that you talk b0ll0cks.

He isn't far wrong though.

We can get through with a draw on Monday....

Some great footballing national teams aren't having a good world cup, and some like Italy didn't even qualify.

[Quickenthetempo]

Just seen a tweet saying

I'm not saying it was a bad game, but it was probably the worst thing America and England have ever done in the middle east.

[Vintage Claret]

Got to love England fans. "Maguire is ****" *wins MOM "England must be **** if Maguire is MOM"
"Argentina are class" *lose to SA "it happens" *England draw with USA "England are ****"
England reach WC semi then Euro Final "Southgate is lucky and ****"

IMO, the reality is somewhere in between the extreme views.

To manage a team to a WC semi and a Euro Final is no mean feat and Southgate and the team deserves credit where it's due.

However we didn't win either of those big games and losing the Euro final 'at home' after going ahead, (albeit on penalties) was particularly frustrating and avoidable.

Like tonight, with a more positive mindset and a willingness to substitute players who it just wasn't happening for sooner we were definitely capable of winning those games.

Still, barring a freak set of results on Tuesday, we're comfortably through to the knockout stages of the WC again so we can't be that bad.

[Targetman]

You cant describe this as anything other than 2nd best all over the pitch with and without the ball. No disguising tactically we are inept at addressing the needs of each match. As a team we lack energy creativity and to some degree purpose or an identity. In truth nothing we all have not known for the last 4 years

Your first sentence is just a carbon copy of what Lee Dixon said on the commentary.

You are correct in saying we are tactically inept at times.

I don't understand what you mean by lacking identity?

Football is a simple game, don't try to complicate it.

[dsr]

Still, barring a freak set of results on Tuesday, we're comfortably through to the knockout stages of the WC again so we can't be that bad.

Only one freak result would be needed. If we lose by 4 to Wales, we're out unless Iran-USA is a draw.. Unlikely, but if we get an early red card, who knows. (If we lose by 7, then we're out regardless of Iran-USA!)

[Clive 1960]

Didn't watch the game because of time difference but what I have read and seen it looks like Gareth made sure that we didn't get beat and got the point that will take us through . On the Foden situation he will get a game from the of if we are on the front foot and going for it or as a impact sub if we are behind .

[KRBFC]

Sadly, it’s comments like this that confirm you as a complete muppet.

Not that I value your opinion. It’s just that you talk b0ll0cks.

The post you quoted is me speaking facts, nothing more, nothing less. Not sure which point you're arguing