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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Quicknick » Sun Jan 01, 2023 8:24 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:59 pm
Noticed Zirkzee had faded. Think someone on here said he’d not had the best attitude at Anderlecht or something.
I wouldn't say he's faded. 4 league games, 1 goal. He's hardly played for them.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by HunterST_BFC » Sun Jan 01, 2023 8:45 am

helmclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 7:58 am
I hope Westwood stays until the end of the season.

Experienced head and good cover in midfield should we get an injury.
Agree.

Also I hope we don't let any go in Jan'.
It's a squad where standards are built on. It would be daft to weaken this.
Maybe Summer unless a player really wants to go now.

For what it's worth... Wout Weg' really could play in our team... He'd have 10+ this season by now.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:09 am

Quicknick wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 8:24 am
I wouldn't say he's faded. 4 league games, 1 goal. He's hardly played for them.
That was really my point… very little game time & only one goal. Not the type of stats he was showing last season for sure (unless he’s had an injury I’m not aware of).
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by claretandy » Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:29 am

Bournemouth are after Brownhill according to Nixon, it would have to be silly money to even think about selling him.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:35 am

claretandy wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:29 am
Bournemouth are after Brownhill according to Nixon, it would have to be silly money to even think about selling him.
That would be a daft move for him imo

As things are he may only get 5mths of premier league football then be back in championship

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:39 am

Yeah can’t see that one happening. He’s loving it here, wants to win the Champ title and Bourne unlikely to offer enough to tempt us.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:39 am

claretandy wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:29 am
Bournemouth are after Brownhill according to Nixon, it would have to be silly money to even think about selling him.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by kaptin1 » Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:04 am

claretandy wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:29 am
Bournemouth are after Brownhill according to Nixon, it would have to be silly money to even think about selling him.
In relative terms, our position is now a lot stronger than it was at the start of the season given it looks increasingly likely that we will be promoted. Makes retaining players and attracting new ones a lot easier.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:24 am

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:25 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:35 am
That would be a daft move for him imo

As things are he may only get 5mths of premier league football then be back in championship
Hardly even 5 months by the time a transfer is done.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:29 am

Its not an appealing move for him-he could be joining a few other recent ex players in the Championship if he moves. If they offer over £20m and he wants to go I would take it, and we can start the rebuild for the PL. However JB seems to love playing for us, so it seems unlikely

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Billyblah » Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:04 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
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Unfortunately the fee has already been agreed for Wout so his World Cup performance won’t change that fee.

Any increase in his value on the back of the World Cup might mean Beskitas are more willing to buy him and possibly sell him on themselves shortly after.
Are we really sure that a fee has already been agreed?
The Besiktas Chairman/owner spent the autumn telling the press how good he was as at knocking down the value of players they initially brought in on loan and how he was confident of doing the same with Weghorst when the time came.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:16 am

I’ve not seen anything about a fee being agreed for Weghorst and I’m not sure why we’d do that unless it was significant.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Funkydrummer » Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:30 am

claretandy wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:29 am
Bournemouth are after Brownhill according to Nixon, it would have to be silly money to even think about selling him.
They want him to take free kicks from the edge of the box. :o

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:35 am

Funkydrummer wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:30 am
They want him to take free kicks from the edge of the box. :o
And corners :o

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:44 am

Would be surprised if the likes of Lowton and Long go this Jan (even Westwood and Barnes)

They will be on far more money at Burnley for the next six months and will then become free agents where they can negotiate additional signing on fees as well as wages

We've already seen that at our club with Hendrick, Tarks and Mee and it seems to be a popular trend for quite a few players at the moment

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by taio » Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:07 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:44 am
Would be surprised if the likes of Lowton and Long go this Jan (even Westwood and Barnes)

They will be on far more money at Burnley for the next six months and will then become free agents where they can negotiate additional signing on fees as well as wages

We've already seen that at our club with Hendrick, Tarks and Mee and it seems to be a popular trend for quite a few players at the moment
Loan.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Big Vinny K » Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:18 pm

Billyblah wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:04 am
Are we really sure that a fee has already been agreed?
The Besiktas Chairman/owner spent the autumn telling the press how good he was as at knocking down the value of players they initially brought in on loan and how he was confident of doing the same with Weghorst when the time came.
As sure as I can be given the person who it came from.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:22 pm

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:37 pm

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:59 pm

Brentford recall Stevens from Swansea loan as they have not been playing him
Is this the end for Dervisoglu

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:29 pm

Obafemi removes all references to Swansea from his Insta.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:34 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:59 pm
Brentford recall Stevens from Swansea loan as they have not been playing him
Is this the end for Dervisoglu
They’ve also recalled Bech from his loan at Nice due to lack of appearances - must have been on to a Loser there.

Would expect Dervisoglu to be recalled.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:35 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:34 pm
They’ve also recalled Bech from his loan at Nice due to lack of appearances - must have been on to a Loser there.

Would expect Dervisoglu to be recalled.
Odd they weren’t all announced together?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by agreenwood » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:38 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:29 pm
Obafemi removes all references to Swansea from his Insta.

Can’t help but think he’s screwed himself & Swansea.

He’s certainly not going to attract anything like the fee we were offering in August, but has also probably brought his own character into question which might limit interest in him.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:40 pm

Does Obafemi even have an Instagram account?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:48 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:38 pm
Can’t help but think he’s screwed himself & Swansea.

He’s certainly not going to attract anything like the fee we were offering in August, but has also probably brought his own character into question which might limit interest in him.
Have to say, not a great fan of this kind of behaviour. I can understand players wanting to leave clubs but don’t like that.

Suppose we don’t know how he’s been treated. I heard on deadline day that his deal was very close. Who knows if they scuppered it last minute looking for more money we never paid. I heard we’d offered very good money so maybe from his perspective Swansea had been offered a good sum and huge profit on a free transfer.

Agree with you though, not sure we’ll be offering the same money now and it could end badly for him.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:49 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:29 am
Its not an appealing move for him-he could be joining a few other recent ex players in the Championship if he moves. If they offer over £20m and he wants to go I would take it, and we can start the rebuild for the PL. However JB seems to love playing for us, so it seems unlikely
£15m + and I would sell and trust Kompany to bring in a better replacement for probably half the price going off his past business.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:51 pm

Won’t be the first and won’t be the last to down tools to force through a move. Remember Tarkowski doing same at Brentford.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:52 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:48 pm
Have to say, not a great fan of this kind of behaviour. I can understand players wanting to leave clubs but don’t like that.

Suppose we don’t know how he’s been treated. I heard on deadline day that his deal was very close. Who knows if they scuppered it last minute looking for more money we never paid. I heard we’d offered very good money so maybe from his perspective Swansea had been offered a good sum and huge profit on a free transfer.

Agree with you though, not sure we’ll be offering the same money now and it could end badly for him.
It does look like he’s been mugged off this season. Regularly on the bench and Swansea fans have no idea why.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by mkmel » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:53 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:51 pm
Won’t be the first and won’t be the last to down tools to force through a move. Remember Tarkowski doing same at Brentford.
That was because his mother was up in the North West and quite ill

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:54 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:52 pm
It does look like he’s been mugged off this season. Regularly on the bench and Swansea fans have no idea why.
“Mugged off”???

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by taio » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:54 pm

I feel we've dodged a bullet with Obafemi especially if we get promoted.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:05 pm

claretandy wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:29 am
Bournemouth are after Brownhill according to Nixon, it would have to be silly money to even think about selling him.
He has enough sense to see we are probably swapping leagues next season. Besides which, he must be enjoying this football under VK far more than his previous under SD.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:06 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:51 pm
Won’t be the first and won’t be the last to down tools to force through a move. Remember Tarkowski doing same at Brentford.
Suppose it depends on your perspective - we got great service from a great player but he also went on a free (although imagine that was partly Dyche’s influence too).

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:09 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:54 pm
I feel we've dodged a bullet with Obafemi especially if we get promoted.
I’m not sure if he’s Prem quality but equally his pace would definitely offer something we don’t have and we do need a couple of strikers in.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:16 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:09 pm
I’m not sure if he’s Prem quality but equally his pace would definitely offer something we don’t have and we do need a couple of strikers in.
Dangerous to judge off one game, but I thought he looked meh on the Turf.

I'd ask people would you rather pay 15m for Obafemi, or 20m for Tella. I know which I'd prefer, and at that money Saints might deal.

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Post by taio » Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:25 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:09 pm
I’m not sure if he’s Prem quality but equally his pace would definitely offer something we don’t have and we do need a couple of strikers in.
Whilst we do need a striker I don't feel he would be the right signing.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:05 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:16 pm
Dangerous to judge off one game, but I thought he looked meh on the Turf.
Spot on re his performance against us this season
Scored 5 goals in 39 appearances for Southampton over 5 years
12 goals for Swansea last season but just 3 this from 19 apps
Just don't see anything positive about this guy even at Championship level never mind Prem

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:08 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:16 pm
Dangerous to judge off one game, but I thought he looked meh on the Turf.

I'd ask people would you rather pay 15m for Obafemi, or 20m for Tella. I know which I'd prefer, and at that money Saints might deal.
In terms of fee I think the consensus at the time was £6-9m, with a lot of that performance-based. That seems pretty reasonable to me, and expect Tella will be much more expensive.

Did he come on as a sub? Like you, was pretty unimpressed but also can’t recall Swansea having any of the ball :lol:

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:11 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:16 pm
Dangerous to judge off one game, but I thought he looked meh on the Turf.

I'd ask people would you rather pay 15m for Obafemi, or 20m for Tella. I know which I'd prefer, and at that money Saints might deal.

I’d be amazed if we went anywhere near 10 mill for Tella never mind 20 mill. As for Obafemi doubt we will go back with what we were supposed to be offering in summer.

Just my opinion

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by taio » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:14 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:08 pm
In terms of fee I think the consensus at the time was £6-9m, with a lot of that performance-based. That seems pretty reasonable to me, and expect Tella will be much more expensive.

Did he come on as a sub? Like you, was pretty unimpressed but also can’t recall Swansea having any of the ball :lol:
I think it was at the higher end of those two figures which seems a lot of money for him. Glad we didn't sign him.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:18 pm

Athletic reported last week that Swans were looking for something around £10m. Our offer was 5/6 rising to 9.

Obafemi was excellent for Swans last season and our Irish contingent on here have always said he’d be a good signing. Obviously this season something has gone on behind the scenes there. When I saw him against Cardiff for them, he scored and was a constant threat in behind.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by taio » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:24 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:18 pm
Athletic reported last week that Swans were looking for something around £10m. Our offer was 5/6 rising to 9.

Obafemi was excellent for Swans last season and our Irish contingent on here have always said he’d be a good signing. Obviously this season something has gone on behind the scenes there. When I saw him against Cardiff for them, he scored and was a constant threat in behind.
I don't think what he's done in international football carries much weight because he hasn't done much at all.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:24 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:05 pm
Spot on re his performance against us this season
Scored 5 goals in 39 appearances for Southampton over 5 years
12 goals for Swansea last season but just 3 this from 19 apps
Just don't see anything positive about this guy even at Championship level never mind Prem
Tella had 1 goal in 33 apps for Soton in 3 years before he came here.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:25 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:24 pm
I don't think what he's done in international football carries much weight because he hasn't done much at all.
Can’t say I’ve seen much of him for Ireland so just going off what the likes of Tribesman have said on here

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:27 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:18 pm
Athletic reported last week that Swans were looking for something around £10m. Our offer was 5/6 rising to 9.

Obafemi was excellent for Swans last season and our Irish contingent on here have always said he’d be a good signing. Obviously this season something has gone on behind the scenes there. When I saw him against Cardiff for them, he scored and was a constant threat in behind.
That’s much more aligned to what I thought. A huge amount depends on how it’s structured. If it’s apps/performances/promotion-based and only £5m or so guaranteed, that sounds okay for a 22yo.

Like others, I’m unsure (more on finishing than anything else), but to have a fast striker that can get in behind would be brilliant in this team.

I don’t think we’ll be offering as much depending on promotion now though!

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by taio » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:38 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:25 pm
Can’t say I’ve seen much of him for Ireland so just going off what the likes of Tribesman have said on here
Yes, he hasn't done much playing for Ireland so a moot point really. He'd have perhaps been a reasonable signing in the summer but we now need to be preparing for the Premier League next season because there's obviously a good chance we'll be promoted.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:44 pm

We should take a look at this lad he's a winger/Forward Dante Vanzeir

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:46 pm

I'd not heard of him until this goal tbh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM4S3AKqGAI

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