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Jadon Sancho

Post by 4midable » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:44 pm

Wont be playing vs us
Ten Haag has said hes not in any state to play for them anytime soon
Strange as he was **** hot before united drilled the life out of him

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by fidelcastro » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:49 pm

Possibly personal reasons, such as a mental health issue, judging from the terminology.

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:50 pm

Why is Man Utd such a graveyard for fantastic players? Sancho, Di Maria, Veron, depay just off the top of my head

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Ric_C » Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:27 pm

Going downhill quicker than Deli Alli at this rate :o

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by COBBLE » Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:32 pm

Oh dear. MUFC is not a football club.
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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:37 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:49 pm
Possibly personal reasons, such as a mental health issue, judging from the terminology.
Ten Haags words were "in the right fitness state". I think the warning signs were there very early with Sancho and his actual commitment to playing at the top level. From watching podcasts of people in and around that club it is mentioned on several occasions his lack of putting in the extra yards needed to really make himself a top top player.

He is nowhere near the England team because Southgate bombed him out after several instances of bad timekeeping.

Then there is the well known issues with his bad eating habits and all the fast food he eats, refusing to see and conform with the dietician at Utd

Ten haag has basically sent him away on a boot camp style break. It's the only way he can get him back into shape as when there as soon as he leaves the training ground they have no control of him. This way a few weeks away being beasted will at least get some lbs off

Personally I think he will be filed in the "had it all but threw it away through lack of effort".

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by ClaretLoup » Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:54 pm

Big pressure for Sancho, he cost £73 million when he was 21 years old, he's an Ex City player and United finished sixth last year on his first full season. Anything less than Champions league is a failure at the theatre of dweems.

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:54 pm

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:50 pm
Why is Man Utd such a graveyard for fantastic players? Sancho, Di Maria, Veron, depay just off the top of my head
Di Maria was a flop because his house was broken into and his mrs wanted away - hence the reason he was only there a short time

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Rowls » Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:57 pm

Look what they did to Ronaldo. One day he's the best player in the world, next thing you know they've booted him out and he can't even make the Portugal first 11.

It takes a John Connelly sort of character to be a success and win the league at Old Trafford.

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by IanMcL » Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:04 am

Sadly. It is an example of a young talent with potential.

Mostly, that potential falls by the wayside, owing to external factors and personal failings. Mostly the latter.

That is why just about all Southgate early selections, from his U21 time, eventually fell by the wayside.

U21 is a place of potential. Experience and maturity builds footballers, mostly with less talent, but with true determination to succeed.
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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:15 am

Another over hyped player who was never worth what Manure paid for him.I fear Bellingham is in that category .

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Nori1958 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:24 am

Rowls wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:57 pm
Look what they did to Ronaldo. One day he's the best player in the world, next thing you know they've booted him out and he can't even make the Portugal first 11.

It takes a John Connelly sort of character to be a success and win the league at Old Trafford.
I don't think he was the world's best player when he arrived the second time

You could argue they made him into the best the first time around though, when he did win trophies

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:39 am

Wasn’t aware of any of this, shame but it’s also hard to blame the player if that’s the way he feels about football. It’s just a shame for the fans, I’m sure he can retire very wealthy already

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by bobinho » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:14 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:15 am
Another over hyped player who was never worth what Manure paid for him.I fear Bellingham is in that category .
I’d wager he isn’t. Bellingham looks the real deal to me.

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:25 am

Sancho has never looked anywhere near Bellingham from what I’ve seen.

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:47 am

bobinho wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:14 am
I’d wager he isn’t. Bellingham looks the real deal to me.
I'd agree with that, but then I thought the same about Dele Alli!
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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:57 am

Media picks often start to believe the hype about themselves. Bellingham has a very long way to go before he becomes a top player .Often young players are inconsistent in performances as shown v France
Mason Mount looked like a world beater last season Sterling is not a kid anymore but he lacks consistency
Often young player fall away after England U21 appearance
Delle's fall has been spectacular, still under 30 his career looks to be finished.

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:26 am

What in holy hell are Man Utd doing to their super talents , they ruined Ronaldo, Sancho , they wrecked Depay too and hardly ever got a tune out of Pogba ( post Jose) They must have spent a billion .
Ten Haag appears to be trying to change he culture , though OGS appeared to be getting there his inexperience as a mega club manager was painful to see at times .

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Spijed » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:30 am

AlargeClaret wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:26 am
What in holy hell are Man Utd doing to their super talents , they ruined Ronaldo, Sancho , they wrecked Depay too and hardly ever got a tune out of Pogba ( post Jose) They must have spent a billion .
Ten Haag appears to be trying to change he culture , though OGS appeared to be getting there his inexperience as a mega club manager was painful to see at times .
How did they ruin Ronaldo?

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:33 am

All we know is what Ten Haag has said

There appears to be (not exactly a surprise) an awful lot of stuff added to that without any real evidence to back it up

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:47 am

AlargeClaret wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:26 am
What in holy hell are Man Utd doing to their super talents , they ruined Ronaldo, Sancho , they wrecked Depay too and hardly ever got a tune out of Pogba ( post Jose) They must have spent a billion .
Ten Haag appears to be trying to change he culture , though OGS appeared to be getting there his inexperience as a mega club manager was painful to see at times .
Pogba was lazy, that's why Ferguson was happy to let him go and didn't want him back.
Ronaldo - his ego has ruined him, the inability to realise he's no longer in his 20's and the world doesn't revolve around him.

Depay - maybe too young and/or just not as good as the clause in his contract about winning a Balon d'Or thought he would be....

Sancho - we don't know what's up, maybe being back in the Manchester area has distracted him, because in Germany he was focused and even the Germans don't understand why he's dropped so much in form.

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by MT03ALG » Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:15 am

Sancho was excellent for Borussia Dortmund as is Bellingham. Will Bellingham also suffer a loss in form if he returns to an English club ?

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:22 am

As happens with many young men who find themselves multimillionaires, famous with time on their hands,all of a sudden they’re knee deep in puussey, luxury motors, endless temptations and the unsavoury hangers on that come with the territory . Let’s hope whatever it is , he gets himself sorted .

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Dougall » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:05 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:22 am
As happens with many young men who find themselves multimillionaires, famous with time on their hands,all of a sudden they’re knee deep in puussey, luxury motors, endless temptations and the unsavoury hangers on that come with the territory . Let’s hope whatever it is , he gets himself sorted .
Yeah - one of the real downsides of a career in local government!! :(

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:13 pm

Didn’t he leave Man City under a bit of a cloud?

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:25 pm

Think the Bundesliga is real hit and miss - success there doesn’t guarantee anything.

Rouwen Hennings bagged 22 goals in 61 games for Düsseldorf - one season 15 in 32!

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Rowls » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:34 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:13 pm
Didn’t he leave Man City under a bit of a cloud?
This is by far the most likely scenario given the weather in Manchester.
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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Rowls » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:34 pm

Probably drizzle too.

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Pickles » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:36 pm

This doesn't necessarily relate to Sancho directly but I've often thought it a bit strange how rare it is for "top" players to leave the game early. I mean, it's an amazing life of course and it's a short career even if you play until your late thirties. But as with anything being a pro footballer must get tedious in parts and once you've made a huge amount of millions, the temptation to ease off and pack it in entirely, travel the world etc, must be massive. I think that's what makes the absolute best so impressive, Messi and Ronaldo have just kept going and going and going with this enormous stamina for success.

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by NottsClaret » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:02 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:13 pm
Didn’t he leave Man City under a bit of a cloud?
Probably helped him being in Germany and while it was all unfamiliar, he only had football to focus on. Back in Manchester now, and possibly the same old distractions he'd have had at City previously.

John Stones' form plummeted for a while when he moved over from a quiet part of South Yorkshire to the bright lights and temptations of Manchester. Now he's matured a bit, he's sorted himself out but it can't be easy for a young man. I could be quite the knobhead at that age just on a normal wage.

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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:03 pm

Don't forget Mason Greenwood.
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Re: Jadon Sancho

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:52 pm

Typical for the glory boys and how they run this dysfunction so called football club. Spend £billions on players of which then are transformed into something that are not deemed good enough. Meanwhile the fans moan and even riot on the streets about under investment because they are not winning everything like they think they should be.

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