Any news on Roberts' red card?

[jtv]

Apologies if already posted, but I haven't seen it anywhere.

[FCBurnley]

Surely we have appealed and it will be overturn. Vitinho already out till new year so we don’t need Roberts out for 3 games

[lakedistrictclaret]

Surely we have appealed and it will be overturn. Vitinho already out till new year so we don’t need Roberts out for 3 games

I think it would only be one game, but I agree, we must have appealed, and I don't see how it couldn't be rescinded.

[FCBurnley]

I think it would only be one game, but I agree, we must have appealed, and I don't see how it couldn't be rescinded.

Good news if it’s only 1 game. Assume it would be Man U game if that’s the case

[yorkyclaret]

Good angle on here behind the nets, shows he isn't even close to handling the ball. Ref does blow straight away though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39hVCkF2C5U

[Bordeauxclaret]

He definitely didn’t blow straight away.
I think there’s an edit in that video.

[tarkys_ears]

I'll still never understand how you can give something you didn't see because it didn't actually happen...

How can you? Why do you? Why WOULD you? Why on earth are they so desperate to make absolute twatheads out of themselves that they'll give something they COULDN'T and DIDN'T see?

[jojomk1]

Isn't a straight red 2/3 games

1 for two yellows

Was saying with some guys tonight that expected appeal to be announced today

Presume maybe too late for any appeal to effect Weds game now if not already registered

[claret wizard]

I'll still never understand how you can give something you didn't see because it didn't actually happen...

How can you? Why do you? Why WOULD you? Why on earth are they so desperate to make absolute twatheads out of themselves that they'll give something they COULDN'T and DIDN'T see?

He talked at length on the radio to the linesman before giving it.

[martin_p]

I'll still never understand how you can give something you didn't see because it didn't actually happen...

How can you? Why do you? Why WOULD you? Why on earth are they so desperate to make absolute twatheads out of themselves that they'll give something they COULDN'T and DIDN'T see?

Well I saw him handball it on a couple of replays before I saw the one that conclusively showed he didn’t. Unfortunately the eyes can be deceived and I don’t really blame the linesman for what he thought he saw. That sort of incident is exactly why VAR was introduced. Now I love the fact we don’t have VAR in the Championship but you won’t see penalties like that given in the Premier League.

[martin_p]

Isn't a straight red 2/3 games

1 for two yellows

Was saying with some guys tonight that expected appeal to be announced today

Presume maybe too late for any appeal to effect Weds game now if not already registered

Think it’s only 3 games for violent conduct. It’s one game for a professional foul and this probably falls under that banner. Hope we have appealed it though.

[NL Claret]

Isn't a straight red 2/3 games

1 for two yellows

Was saying with some guys tonight that expected appeal to be announced today

Presume maybe too late for any appeal to effect Weds game now if not already registered

Depends what the red card is for, for example, violent conduct would carry a 3 match ban. A deliberately handled ball (not in this case) would be a 1 match ban.

[Vegas Claret]

there's no way, even with how unfathomably **** the FA are that the card wont get rescinded, it's an embarrassment for the establishment and they wont want to make it worse

[Burnley1989]

He definitely didn’t blow straight away.
I think there’s an edit in that video.

It was a good 5-10 seconds afterwards, was bizarre

[Tricky Trevor]

The lino defo gave it. Roberts didn’t help himself by trying to back hand it away but from the angle along the goalline you can see he missed it and see why the lino gave it.

[fidelcastro]

I've never understood why people get confused with a punishment for deliberate handball (not that it was, and should be rescinded).

When was the last time a player received a three game ban for handling it?

[IanMcL]

Well I saw him handball it on a couple of replays before I saw the one that conclusively showed he didn’t. Unfortunately the eyes can be deceived and I don’t really blame the linesman for what he thought he saw. That sort of incident is exactly why VAR was introduced. Now I love the fact we don’t have VAR in the Championship but you won’t see penalties like that given in the Premier League.

Me too. It looked like a handball, if you were a lino. Perfectly timed hand in conjunction with ball movement.

Only when in depth look does it show the optical illusion.

However, he would have definitely hand balled it, if the bar had not intervened!

[dsr]

I've never understood why people get confused with a punishment for deliberate handball (not that it was, and should be rescinded).

When was the last time a player received a three game ban for handling it?

David Eyres was probably the last Burnley player to get a three match ban for a professional foul. That summer they changed in to 1 match (might have been 1994) and since then it's been changed again, so a genuine (but failed) tackle that denies a goalscoring offence and results in a penalty, is only yellow.

[Commy]

I can understand the ref thinking it as he is facing it but the linesman is side on. It is the side on photos that show it wasn't handball so it must have been easier for the linesman.

[fidelcastro]

David Eyres was probably the last Burnley player to get a three match ban for a professional foul. That summer they changed in to 1 match (might have been 1994) and since then it's been changed again, so a genuine (but failed) tackle that denies a goalscoring offence and results in a penalty, is only yellow.

I thought we were talking about handball?

Anyway, remind me of the opposition in 1994 that Eyres was sent off against, and subsequently received a three game ban.

[Devils_Advocate]

I doubt we'll appeal it. The decision was incorrect and im sure we could win the appeal but I get the impression that VK is an honourable and principled man and I suspect he will recognise that Roberts tried to cheat and will accept the punishment for the attempt to cheat even if Roberts didnt succeed.

Personally I have a lot of respect for VK for taking such a stance

[conyoviejo]

I doubt we'll appeal it. The decision was incorrect and im sure we could win the appeal but I get the impression that VK is an honourable and principled man and I suspect he will recognise that Roberts tried to cheat and will accept the punishment for the attempt to cheat even if Roberts didnt succeed.

Personally I have a lot of respect for VK for taking such a stance

You never give up do you DA .

[martin_p]

I doubt we'll appeal it. The decision was incorrect and im sure we could win the appeal but I get the impression that VK is an honourable and principled man and I suspect he will recognise that Roberts tried to cheat and will accept the punishment for the attempt to cheat even if Roberts didnt succeed.

Personally I have a lot of respect for VK for taking such a stance

This is such a poor attempt he’s had to post after midnight in the hope not many see it.

[dsr]

I thought we were talking about handball?

Anyway, remind me of the opposition in 1994 that Eyres was sent off against, and subsequently received a three game ban.

To spell it out, when the professional foul rule was first brought in, the punishment for getting sent off was a three match ban. So if you did a professional foul handball it was a three match ban and if you did a professional foul trip or push or other offence it was a three match ban.

Then they changed the rule, probably in summer 1995, to a 1 match ban for a professional foul. So if you did a professional foul handball it was a one match ban and if you did a professional foul trip or push or other offence it was a one match ban.

It was Stoke away, 10th December 1994.

[bfcjg]

Re the card, apparently the refs guide dog eat the post match report.

[fidelcastro]

To spell it out, when the professional foul rule was first brought in, the punishment for getting sent off was a three match ban. So if you did a professional foul handball it was a three match ban and if you did a professional foul trip or push or other offence it was a three match ban.

Then they changed the rule, probably in summer 1995, to a 1 match ban for a professional foul. So if you did a professional foul handball it was a one match ban and if you did a professional foul trip or push or other offence it was a one match ban.

It was Stoke away, 10th December 1994.

I've never actually heard handball described as a professional foul before, but thanks for the clarification.

Re: Eyres' sending off, I was at that game too.

Well remembered! I'll take your word for it that he served a three game ban!

[boatshed bill]

I've never actually heard handball described as a professional foul before, but thanks for the clarification.

All fouls are "professional" in a pro league.
I'd like to see the definition of an amateur foul...is it one not very well executed?

[Targetman]

I doubt we'll appeal it. The decision was incorrect and im sure we could win the appeal but I get the impression that VK is an honourable and principled man and I suspect he will recognise that Roberts tried to cheat and will accept the punishment for the attempt to cheat even if Roberts didnt succeed.

Personally I have a lot of respect for VK for taking such a stance

These posts do come across as a little immature at times. Next week you will be complaining that people don't take you seriously!

[Devils_Advocate]

This is such a poor attempt he’s had to post after midnight in the hope not many see it.

Poor attempt at what? I think you guys get a bit obsessed that everything is trying to troll and wind people up. It was just a light hearted post like many posts on this forum and Id be worried if anyone either thought I was being serious or got upset by it.

Anyway I'll remember not to post anything that isn't deadly serious in future Martin

[Bordeauxclaret]

I've never actually heard handball described as a professional foul before, but thanks for the clarification.

Re: Eyres' sending off, I was at that game too.

Well remembered! I'll take your word for it that he served a three game ban!

Me either.
Wasn’t Beresford sent off for handball a few games later in the infamous Portsmouth game? Was that one or three?

We seemed to have a red card every other week that season.

[Devils_Advocate]

These posts do come across as a little immature at times. Next week you will be complaining that people don't take you seriously!

I mean half the jokey posts on here could be considered immature, just look at that adeola thread but people do tend to just pass time on here posting nonsense. Not sure where you've got the idea that I expect people to take me serious though?

[boatshed bill]

Poor attempt at what? I think you guys get a bit obsessed that everything is trying to troll and wind people up. It was just a light hearted post like many posts on this forum and Id be worried if anyone either thought I was being serious or got upset by it.

Anyway I'll remember not to post anything that isn't deadly serious in future Martin

Especially after midnight

[martin_p]

Poor attempt at what? I think you guys get a bit obsessed that everything is trying to troll and wind people up. It was just a light hearted post like many posts on this forum and Id be worried if anyone either thought I was being serious or got upset by it.

Anyway I'll remember not to post anything that isn't deadly serious in future Martin

You need to recognise that some of the replies are light hearted as well. I enjoy your input on the board.

[Devils_Advocate]

You need to recognise that some of the replies are light hearted as well. I enjoy your input on the board.

Very fair point

[Nori1958]

It's been overturned