Stoke v Burnley Match Thread

distortiondave · Post by **distortiondave** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:46 pm

I wasn't there, did we wear claret and blue?

Newark_Claret · Post by **Newark_Claret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:46 pm

Defo not one to watch back but sign of top team to see out an ugly 1-0 win when nowhere near at our best - onwards and upwards

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:47 pm

Ugly win but do who cares.

Muric man of the match for me today.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:47 pm

Mad league is this. There's the same gap between 1st and 3rd as there is 3rd and 23rd

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:47 pm

distortiondave wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:46 pm
I wasn't there, did we wear claret and blue?

No blue away strip

xxmunkyennuixx · Post by **xxmunkyennuixx** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:47 pm

Loved that. This team are learning fast.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:48 pm

A scrappy, scruffy win. But its another clean sheet and three points.

Matt_Whalley · Post by **Matt_Whalley** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:48 pm

14.5 points clear of third (when you consider goal difference) after 25 games. Phenomenal.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:48 pm

This result is absolutely crucial.
I think we’ll look back at this one and
see it as the launch pad for promotion.
Some tough games still to come admittedly
and we’ve got to lose sooner or later
but delighted it wasn’t tonight.

Come on you Clarets!

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:49 pm

boyyanno wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:47 pm
Ugly win but do who cares.

Muric man of the match for me today.

Agree, bar a few shaky passes at the start he was excellent

Cullen was also very good

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:49 pm

4:20 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:47 pm
Mad league is this. There's the same gap between 1st and 3rd as there is 3rd and 23rd

Think that just highlights how incredibly poor the division is this year.

Apart from Sheffield and ourselves he rest of the league are much of a muchness. They all lack quality teams full of sloggers

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:49 pm

boyyanno wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:47 pm
Ugly win but do who cares.

Muric man of the match for me today.

Beyer, by a country mile, for me.

But perhaps a lesson for VK, don't mess if not required.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:49 pm

I think the chasing teams need us to fall off a cliff and still get 2.2 points a game. That will be difficult for any of them and I honestly can't see this team falling off a cliff. Fulham lost 10 last season and still won the league.

Jeffbfc · Post by **Jeffbfc** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:49 pm

Championship winning performance.
Not pretty but did the job.
UTC

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:50 pm

A fabulous 3 points away against extremely tough opposition . If we get promotion these are the games which may not be remembered but they are so, so important.

Paddy1882 · Post by **Paddy1882** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:50 pm

Great win that against some parasite football. Stoke were absolutely horrific. If you play that way you have to get results or your fans will vote with their feet as they clearly are doing, it was Ricoh arena empty tonight.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:50 pm

Sheff Utd have to play them yet. Hope they are the same then.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:51 pm

Brentford won at West Ham 2.0. Could that spell the end of Moyes.

Elbarad · Post by **Elbarad** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:52 pm

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:45 pm
Proper Champions win that.

Stoke are awful, that ref was pathetic.

My stream had the Stoke radio announcers. At one point their guest announcer said the ref had been Stoke's best player. Haha.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:52 pm

Stoke are truly garbage, BUT lumping aimless balls forward and booting long free kicks into our box is actually the only way to stop us playing and get something against us and until the final whistle I feared they might actually get something. Ugly win for sure and far more a Dyche type win the a Kompany win, but who will care at the end of April!!?

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:52 pm

Be interesting to see what team he starts with at Swansea. Jay, Tella and Zaroury should be in good condition having only played less than a half so wouldn’t surprise me if they start as our front 3.
Middle of the park will be an interesting one though as all 3 put in a serious shift tonight!
Hope Beyer’s okay; he’s been immense!

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:53 pm

Thought Stoke were one of the better sides we've played this season.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:53 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:49 pm
Beyer, by a country mile, for me.

But perhaps a lesson for VK, don't mess if not required.

agreed, he is fantastic

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:54 pm

Proper win that, miles from our fluent best but dug it out. We were drawing those games earlier this season, not anymore. Muric with two world class saves first half and 2 huge moments early in the 2nd, good job he's fast off his line, one of his biggest strengths is sweeping up behind the defensive line, not given credit for that enough.

I think the referees gets worse by the week in this league, seriously what an inept bunch of clowns they are. In the PL VAR exposes them further.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:54 pm

I really hope we sign Beyer. He has improved so much since he has been here and can only get better.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:55 pm

Big factor tonight as well was that we actually had some luck as well.

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:56 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:53 pm
Thought Stoke were one of the better sides we've played this season.

In terms of effort and determination I would agree……but not in terms of the ‘football’ they played….

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:56 pm

Typical Stoke big team and physical with plenty of fouls

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:57 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:49 pm
Think that just highlights how incredibly poor the division is this year.

Apart from Sheffield and ourselves he rest of the league are much of a muchness. They all lack quality teams full of sloggers

Got a feeling one or two of the others might go on a heck of a run if they get the momentum. If it all carries on as it is, there's going to be an all in one scrap for the playoffs and against relegation.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:57 pm

Ampth7 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:56 pm
In terms of effort and determination I would agree……but not in terms of the ‘football’ they played….

They played the sort of football which is most likely to beat us. So therefore they played good football. Like we did so often with Dyche.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:58 pm

How much do refs get in this league? Stealing a living going off that. How can they get things so wrong?

The foul on benson was so obvious

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:00 pm

Having watched 180 minutes from Birmingham and Stoke , its apparent neither of these sides have any quality. Both happy to lump it up and hoping for a second ball. Thought in both games our aerial defending has really improved

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:01 pm

4:20 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:57 pm
Got a feeling one or two of the others might go on a heck of a run if they get the momentum. If it all carries on as it is, there's going to be an all in one scrap for the playoffs and against relegation.

Can’t see it personally. No one outside of Burnley and Sheffield has shown any kind of ability to go on a run. West Brom started to and they lost to Coventry.

Anyone trying to catch the top two now would have to win north of 15 of there remaining games

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:06 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:53 pm
Thought Stoke were one of the better sides we've played this season.

Poor bait.

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:06 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:57 pm
They played the sort of football which is most likely to beat us. So therefore they played good football. Like we did so often with Dyche.

Hmm, can I change the word ‘good’ with ‘nearly effective?’

Prefeot · Post by **Prefeot** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:06 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:49 pm
Agree, bar a few shaky passes at the start he was excellent

Cullen was also very good

Muric was Murichesque..an accident waiting to happen … just a good job the levels in the championship are pretty poor

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:08 pm

They certainly stopped us playing but this was a really good performance in so far we stuck in and ground out a result.
If I were a Stoke fan i would be a tad miffed at losing. Really was a scrappy goal and their scrappy effort in the first half didn't end up in the net fortunately

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:08 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:49 pm
Beyer, by a country mile, for me.

But perhaps a lesson for VK, don't mess if not required.

It was required, and will be again. We play a style where players need a break, the fixtures come thick and fast, and you need to utilise the squad. Churlinov didn't fire, but neither did Benson at first. He needs the game time more than most, and he'll come good.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:11 pm

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:06 pm
Poor bait.

Not bait. They were more effective against us than most teams have been.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:11 pm

They beat Sheff utd quite easy in October

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Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:33 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:49 pm
But perhaps a lesson for VK, don't mess if not required.

46 game division, Royboy. Plus cups. He’s handling it very well for me. Keeping the forwards fresh and Charlie coming on to close out games at the back.

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:38 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:33 pm
46 game division, Royboy. Plus cups. He’s handling it very well for me. Keeping the forwards fresh and Charlie coming on to close out games at the back.

Fair play TT, but in the 50 minutes he was on, Churlinov looked anything but a wide left player. That was basically the point I was highlighting, when we know exactly what Zaroury is capable of in that position.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:40 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:38 pm
Fair play TT, but in the 50 minutes he was on, Churlinov looked anything but a wide left player. That was basically the point I was highligting, when we know exactly what Zaroury is capable of in that position.

Yet Zaroury offered arguably even less than Churlinov tonight! Their right back played well.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:57 pm

My opinion for what's it's worth Stoke where the worst team we have played this season and consequently dragged us to their level...a very ugly win against an ugly team..
Onwards and upwards Swansea will be a tad more difficult

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:04 pm

Remember the saying "who wants to play at Stoke on a cold wet Tuesday night". Well its not much better on a Friday and don't underestimate the importance of coming away with 3 points, irrespective of how ugly the game was